When I posted my view, I don't encourage or discourage people to buy or not to buy properties.

Just, sometimes, we always need to see thing from rather neutral perspective (although it is definitely cannot be total neutral), but at least opinion posted is based on what is happening out there and supported by facts and figure out there or what we know, it may be right or wrong, it doesn't matter, at least we see where the arguement come from, rather than post opinion just because belong to which camp.

The discussion part of story is the one lead to us to think, to analyse, to judge.
Any investment, there is no sure win, so does properties.
We don't need to agree on each other, but as long as healthy discussion is going on, it benefits to all only.

Frankly speaking and no offence, waiting and hoping properties price to crash, just because cannot afford to buy, or whatever reason, somehow, need to think deeper.

When properties market crash, it just mean economy will be doing badly, by that time, you would even fear about job security, if one is under employment one, or fear price fall even further and banks could tighten the loan as well. It could mean harder life when properties price crash time.
For those doing business one or self-employed, potential facing business slow, default issue as well.
So could ended forever wait.

I am not mean properties price is right or cheap right now, or will go up further. Just the part hoping and waiting properties price to crash in order for one to buy cheaply, somehow, not something a right mindset.
My view only. 
Yes, properties price is high, if see it too high, not worth, then don't buy, as simple as that.
But it doesn't mean we hope it to crash either.
Just let the market behave themselves, you buy or sell based on your affordability, risk appetite and tolerance on it.
Can anticipate some fall, but hoping it to crash, is never a right attitude to start with.

My 2 cents.

that's because these do not affect the daily lives of the masses.

the day people start to "invest" in, i.e. buy up and even hoard rice and cooking oil, you will not see complaints but riots!

sales agent! they have no risk and are just selling 'services'.

wahahhaa, good one....the truth is the prop price kept increasing despite all the debates. still no one knows what is the direction, but yet the price is still on the rising trend in the early 2011 now dunno till when.

seems the Columbus phrase 'i come, i see, i conquer' makes sense in properties....if Columbus still alive, he could be making tons of $$$ these few years. haha

perhaps the landed props still bullish due to demand in KV.........

Let's study the historical data, the key factor to enter the Property market is "Interest Rate", if you have study the interest rate fr early 80' till now, then one shd know that we are in fact in the best position to buy real estate.

2011 is offers the second lowest (in M'sia history) in Avg lending rate, I dun see any impact that even the BLR is heading to 7.5% level, so long the ALR is maintaining at 6%, I will still invest property (of course good one), I hv gone through all these up & down cycle, those fr 1983 to 1998 are really called disaster!!

Buy when interest is lowest with moderate price, not highest interest with
lower price

lol@2012

if property continue rising, nobody would be able to afford them.. and when nobody buys..prices have to normalize itself to be in line with the buying power..right..thats what i think anyway.

the funny thing is, land is NOT scarce in Malaysia[COLOR=red], we're not Hong Kong and Singapore. so what's the big hoohaa anyway.

seller can demand whatever price they want, it doesn't reflect market price.
market price is not determined by asking prices.

valuer value lower does not mean it is the market price as well, but it is definitely a "safe" benchmark. if you pay at valuation price or below valuation price, consider it a fair trade or a good deal, if its above valuation price..then tread with caution...

hi UFO, I utterly agreed and like your idea. Indeed, i have the same thinking and comparison of the present property market with share market. I always look at the property market is a slower, more troublesome and less flexibity version of sharemarket. If we bought a wrong/bad share, we can just cut loss by a phone call or press one button "sell". On the other hand if you bought a wrong property!  need not to explain further. Of course someone will say property is something physical and touchable and we won't lost untill 0. This is the biggest benefit of property investment.
Pondering at the current property market, lot new properties launch, price surges like 20%-50% on every new phase, peoples still jostling for it.
Any investment must have up and down time like a parabolic, for equity market it may have few parabolic a year whereas for property market should be the same but at a much slower or longer parabolic. Real Investor/ fund manager know when to cash their profit. Do you know when?

wow 2040! I hope Proton and Perodua will not be around anymore.

IZ A CRAZY f***ING LIFE NOWADAYS!

although i'd really hesitate to call Azizi Ali an expert in properties. A 6 million net worth is really nothing compared to some other property gurus or investors out there. Some of his investment choices have also been poor, and returns are poor. He's more a jack of all trades kinda guy.

Azizi started in 1995 whereas Pai kor started only in 2005 ... so who d champ   
But one thing about Azizi, as full time pilot, wonder how he managed his business, seminars, books etc. Cant possible flying the plane while writing books and preparing seminars. This one we really need to learn. 

This is a crazy suggestion, our property not reach that level like Japan or Hong Kong, price 15x-30x much more lower.

With this kind of property price, already go for 2nd generation home loan, if 10 year later economic boom up as Hong Kong, u think how many generation home loan to be taken???

I only know that if Wawasan 2020 really can reach at 2020, there is 4 group of people still can live in KV.
a)  Political
b)  Rich family
c)  Foreigners
d)  High income group (RM30k/mth and above)

10k-30k/mth group will start move out from KV to outside KV.
5k-10k/mth group will move to next develop city like Ipoh, Alor Setar...and so on.
3k-5k/mth group will move to kampung... 
500-3k/mth group.......dun know where they needed to move....    

It is not every property price escalating like no tomorrow.

There are still properties the remain roughly the same pricing even  after 15 years, especially those non-prime area.

There are even some properties nobody interested to buy or rent even after 15 years.
Drive around some non-prime area, or smaller town, there are some shoplots that cost 300-400K 10 years ago, now growing grass only, even trees... 

   
Great comments, Bravo. By reading this it sum it all.
This is what I have been waiting for.
   

btw. i have some properties need your advise, are you willing to help.
let me know bro. thx