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AVFAN
post Jan 21 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(epie @ Jan 21 2011, 11:26 PM)
now i dunno how high is actually high doh.gif
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billion rm question.

think this thread has outlived its usefulness.
all good arguments heard, but the reality no change, no signs of change except lux condo rentals no good.
better wait till something really burst that everyonbody can see, or some investors report another 20% gain from today, then come back.
no change, no come back!
if not, all guessing game, cheap syok sendiri onli. biggrin.gif

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post Feb 7 2011, 06:09 PM

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it is my understanding that much of of the comments given here are for houses and condos, i.e. homes, leasehold or freehold.

wat about sohos, serviz apts, etc...?

becuz lately, i see few new house or real condo launches but many highrise. some disguised as homes but are in fact commercial or even offices. in one thread, there was mention myboleh, who cares, can manage, etc. also, shopping malls promised for all to shop till u drop.

is this a sign of fatigue in new home prices, hence developers going pigeonhole "homes" - "cheap" and can get 90% loan?

since such launches are also getting redhot response, are investors shifting focus to this category now?

what may this mean for real home prices?

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post Feb 16 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(mikro @ Feb 15 2011, 02:24 PM)
1)Will increasing young working population the answer to sustainable house price?
My theory is that although the house price have increase, but the price increase is with tandem with the demand in Malaysia economy.

2) On a macro point of view, the house price have only appreciated 3.3% around the country which is true, the house price in klang valley had shoot up like rocket, which is also true. But on the micro side, not all the house in klang valley has shoot up 30%-50% in just a year, it's is very confine and specific to hotpots such asĀ  BU areas wherest Kajang, Shah Alam has not seen much appreciation like in BU and Mutiara Area which come to my conclusion that property high price is segmented and not as wide spread as perceive, so that area like BU and Mutiara maybe have excess speculation that cause the price to increase rapidly.
House price boom is happening in Singapore as well, which explain the situation is not confine to Malaysia.
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the idea of more young grads to buy higher prices homes isn't sound. suspect majority of grads not so employable these days, coupled with few high pay jobs, only a minority will make it bigtime. a good no. of brains go overseas since there isn't much for them to hang around for.

this 3.3% is propaganda to ease the discomfort, probably true only outside kv and in rural areas. bu-mutiara is an example but there are dozens more. maybe kajang is just catching up, but you are wrong about shah alam. go check kota kemuning, jelutong, setia alam - you'll be shocked how much even 10yr old houses have gone up except the very old leasehold ones not much change. same story in many parts of puchong, kota damansara/sg buluh and along old klang road.

comparing to singapore is never useful. there are far more differences than similaritites between them.

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post Feb 16 2011, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Feb 16 2011, 01:54 PM)
True. RM300 isn't easy to collect, ideally 50 units cost 2.5 mil, collect RM15K every mth sounds ok. But in reality landlord is facing different type of tenants, illegal activities, collection problems, personal safety issue (collecting cash), utility usage disputes, runaway tenants etc... rclxub.gif
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this is a special breed of people - need skills manybe similar to loansharks. tongue.gif

i have veen heard of foreigners owning dozens of these low cost flats, flying in/out to collect the rents every month. these skilful people know their way with local bankers, money changers, auctioneers, landoffice, contractors. an int'l career, actuali.
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post Feb 19 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(dreamadream @ Feb 19 2011, 04:54 AM)
i personally don't want to hv a MRT station near my house although i am not in the Rich group due to security and noise polution issues.
And Malaysian are BAD at maintenance, just go look at the conditions of our LRT stations
btw, i am just wondering whether anyone here noticed as well that in iproperty recently there seems to have more property up for auctions?
elevated mrt/lrt are just like hospitals, old folks home and kindies - everyone like to have it nearby but hates it if too close. and yes, all the past evidence say the powered people only know how to spend when building, then a 3rd class mentality takes over operation and maintenance.

more auctions... suspect the increase is due to a new trend - pay some fees, try to get bidders to pay a good price without buyers looking inside yr house. think this is not illegal and quite common in other major cities.

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