Hi.. I am a regular user here.. I normally buy and sell things here.. Rarely in lelong.com.my or ebay.com.my.
But last Monday on 30th June, i had to find another phone for my brother since i make his phone broken edi.
Like Malay people say 'sudah jatuh ditimpa tangga'.. that day is a very unlucky day for me..

The story is like this, i email the seller once and he did not reply.. Looking at his rating which is 100%,
i thought it is ok for me to bid his item.. SO i bid the phone : NOKIA 7610.. for RM180.00 plus postage is RM190.00
(Note that negative feedback only given after he close the what so called hacked ebay account).. can hack ar ebay account?





But then he add another Nokia 7610 which cost RM150.00 and this one got extra scratches compared to the one that i bid..
So, i sms him and ask is it ok if i won the bid, i want to purchase the cheaper one.. he said ok..
And i also did ask for se w960i (he said the price is RM2200).. luckily i didnt purchase with him..
He also create a blog to contact him, and to describe him as a freelancer in langkawi..
(today when i checked, ebay id turned to be a chinese name with contact number, and the blog gone edi)
buying phone in a bulk and he handpicked the good one to refurbished.. aiyo.. what a cheap man la he is..

When i won, an invoice came to me..



this time again i ask for the cheaper one, and followed all the instruction for payment..





Now that blog didnt contain payment instruction anymore but some rubbish words from him




I emailed him, later wanna call him.. wait for 10 days before reports to ebay dispute centre.
I might lodge a police reports as well (maybe not.. cannot gather people as he make the account private)..
THought will wait till next week, but his stupidity which only success to con few people only
and try to erase all the proof make me 100% sure he is a conman..

According to the details i have (dunno can be trusted or not)

HIS NAME : RIZAL BIN MOHD
BANK : AmBANK BERHAD
CREDIT CARD NO : 5267487800009785
IC NO : 750308-10-5045 (THIS IC IS NOT AVAILABLE WHEN CHECKING THE INCOME-TAX DATA)
LOCATION : Kedah, Malaysia - BanTap Enterprise, Kuah Langkawi, Kedah 07000 Malaysia
PHONE NO : 012-4312610

Ed check with maxis and the number belongs to:
NAME : KHAIRUL BIN ALIAS
IC NO : 771024-03-5273
ADRESS : 25, Jalan Putra Permai, 10/2D. Section 10, Putra Heights, Subang Jaya

AND GUESS WHAT??? THE INFO IS SAME AS THE ONE REPORTED --> HERE

If anyone can add or find the exact details of this person, would be better..
If i ask ambank for sure they wouldnt give the details..
I dont care for that RM150.00 anymore (i do care actually.. )
But if this person happen to have id here, i hope admin can track and be extra carefull with him..

And to the bantap (dunwan to say his name.. buat malu orang melayu aja), if you read this, i pity u..
if want that money for petrol, haha, just take (i will not ask back, but ill never accept your appology till your death and even hereafter. )
plus, if want to hack my ebay account pulak, ask for my permission.. hohoho.. extra careful ya guys..
will never buy sumthing expensive without cod anymore..


THE VICTIMS
1) emjay_4u --> NOKIA 7610 (RM150)
2) digiworld --> canon dslr (RM500)
3) 24kyonoa --> NOKIA 6300 and NOKIA 6100 (RM390)
4) MingLeeQi --> Nokia 6300 (RM310)
5) Ed_23 --> Nokia 7373 (RM200)
6) gotcheated_

This post has been edited by emjay_4u: Jul 18 2008, 08:11 PM

I was attracted to the cheap price this seller offer but I patiently wait and monitor the auction. It's look suspicious for me so I went to another seller who selling only one or 2 phone. Luckily I did that, now I have one phone which new with half price.

The way he do is look similar to the previous case happen to me. When I did some research, I found out most of the buyer giving him the feedback will also have a feedback to a seller than CON me before (I lost RM270 last time being con at eBay).

Most obviously is he ended the item earlier than suppose to. This time also using Ambank credit card. The wording use also similar to the previous case.

This post has been edited by nordingh: Jul 5 2008, 12:33 AM

got sooooo many pictures to post..
but i post the one that is important first..
later maybe we can create a thread on how to know your conmen better..
i cant gather people as he make the profile private..

4 JULY 2008 : yesterday only 4 negative feedback.. now 5 edi..
5 JULY 2008 : 7 negative feedback
6 JULY 2008 : 8 negative feedback and still counting..

if wanna buy things in ebay, be careful and you may check:


This post has been edited by emjay_4u: Jul 6 2008, 07:37 PM

One lesson can be learnt here. In e-Bay and lelong.com.my, do not deal with sellers with less than 100 positive feedbacks (by buyer). Conmen are now targeting on laptop and handset buyers so just beware when e-shopping.

im also is a victim, im paid money to fukxxr guy more then you, i already do the report to ebay, the eBay Standard Purchase Protection Programme http://pages.ebay.com.my/help/tp/esppp-process.html
dun know can claim back the money or not ? later i will go to the polis station report this case,

I don't agree with you. Did you know how hard to get 100 positive feedback... I use lelong for more 5 years.... still not reach 60..... If follow your style... even harder to get 100 feedback..... because buyer won't buy and how to get the feedback if no buyer.....

Let get more people in.... and do it together.....

@digiworld

wah.. today join ar? 12:43 join, 12:50 post, 01:02 logout?
where is the link that you buy the item? mind to show? (pm me also can + your contact number and location)
or else people will say u are one of the bantap's duplicate account..
not to finger pointing you. Just show the proof will do.

EDIT : add some info after check on the net..

This post has been edited by emjay_4u: Jul 5 2008, 04:03 PM

im a victom lah, today i go to balai polis doing report already, as i knew, got 5 victom invole this cheated case already, for detail i already pm you

As today 7 -ve feedback already.

updated on post #3 and still counting..

I'm new here, also a victim cheated by this seller: Rizal Bin Mohd, RM310 (RM300 for Nokia 6300 + RM10 for postage).

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Added on July 6, 2008, 12:25 amBTW, If u really want to gather all the victims, google the word "thebantap".

This post has been edited by MingLeeQi: Jul 6 2008, 12:25 AM

salam..guys im the victim too,he aint on his phone,200 lost,nk 7373..damn,anyone know how to track this man down??or we the victim can make a police report together??man,we need to bring this man down!!chan hai arrr...how bro and sis???any idea??let me know!!

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Added on July 6, 2008, 6:38 ami dont care lets track him down if we need to go to his place and find him lets do it...when want to make police report guys,let me know,im in kl,sui chai...malu melayu weiiii,wat business betul2 larr...haish,sib bek aku penyabar..

This post has been edited by Ed_23: Jul 6 2008, 06:38 AM

B**oh la this malay guy.
shame on you.
i'm a malay too..
i found you i would beat you till death!!!

kena gak ker bro??nak eknakan boleh jer..tapi nak kena kumpul kan ramai2 dulu..br besh hentak.
aite guys??

yup.. gather all victims.. go to his house.. kill him.. haha..
(buat malu kaum melayu jer.. lelaki baik semakin pupus )

a really stupid conman? yet he manage to get a few 'smart' ones.
find a more appropriate word lar.

u find for me then... when opening this thread, cannot think any word other than stupid, stupid and stupid..
but actually if that conman is not stupid, y he choose to do dirty job like this?
choose to be cursed by people, choose a shortcut to go to hell?? stupid la tu..

anyway, edited the topic already.. end of story..

This post has been edited by emjay_4u: Jul 6 2008, 05:18 PM

What does "few 'smart' ones" means here?

means we are smart la..

This post has been edited by emjay_4u: Jul 6 2008, 05:20 PM

OIC, "stupid" is not the appropriate word for the conman, but " few'smart' ones" is the appropriate word for the victims.

lagi2..more,where the smart people who being con by this man???meh2 ramai2..
and yea we smart and smart people made mistake and we can fix it too..
so rizal,kalau nak duit mintak baik2,nak pinjam aku leh bg..bukan curi..tipu!

mintak baik2 dapat sikit.. if cheat, kaya within 2 weeks.. haha..
guys.. if there is any update, pm me.. may not be able to on9 so often liao..

buat laporan polis dulu.... biar polis buat kerja sikit.... polis mungkin boleh dapat alamat dari bank kalau ramai-ramai buat laporan.... dah tau alamat... buat la apa yg patut...

lelaki baik ada lagi..... cuma tak cuba nak menonjolkan diri je.... kalau buat baik pun mana orang nak nampak, org sekarang tak heran la kalau buat baik... kalau buat jahat cepat glamer..... cuba tgk kat forum ada ke sapa-sapa bukak threads pasal orang buat baik....

This post has been edited by nordingh: Jul 6 2008, 10:17 PM

yup betul...but nak kumpul yang kena tuh tak suma dari kl...ada sorang dah bg ref report dye maybe can ask the police use tht ref to connect all the report from the same case and victim...

Kalau camtu nak mintak tolong semua org la... masukkan RM1-2 dalam akaun saya.... byk hutang nak kena settle ni...

hutang??hutang apa??u are conman too??huhuhu,ke rizal??huhuhu,kidding...

La.... Kalau conman, mana ada mintak secara jujur camni.... mesti menipu punya.... ni mintak bukan byk, RM1-2 je..... boleh ke bang.... nak bagi no akaun ni.... ahahahah...

damn it.. this conman really mencemar duli my name la.. .. rizal is part of my name..

H! All this kyonoa - my ebay id 24kyonoa

I got conned by this man and already made a police report. Do you all know that he change his id into my information and wrote me 2 feedbacks on ebay. I reported to Ebay about this and I will continue fighting with Ebay until I get back my money as Ebay should be responsible in checking all Sellars.

I am truly upset over this matter that I want get this man caught.

So this is what I want from all those who got conned.

Please email me a copy of you police report or contact me at 012 202 6149

I am gathering all informations for my police friend who is helping me to get this guy after I reported that I am not the only who got conned.

Luckily new eBay rules doesn't allow seller to put negative feedback for buyer but in your feedback, the wording is not really appropriate. Fight with eBay on that, give eBay your proof about the police reports.

Report your dispute on eBay. Let eBay open their eyes and create a special rules for Malaysia, rules created for USA cannot applied here. At least all seller must provide proof of current address and mykad number before can sell anything.

where r u from dude,or girl...im in kl and emjay in kl,digi in jb but digi already made a report..if u're in key ell maybe can help me and emjay where can we make report..

uh-huh.. help us..
and he did removed the item from list..
means i cant claimed my money from ebay anymore.. am i right?

Still can as long as you have the item number like this 190233xxxxxxx. Keep the mail sent by eBay when you won the item.

me too, my item also remove already, luckily system still have, still wait for 10 days, , hope can claim it

Save the pages to your PC while it still available. eBay only keep the page for awhile only.

are u claim before, seem like u very familiar about this issue

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Added on July 11, 2008, 9:11 amebay i already open my dispute console, but still need wait 10 days for seller reply, and need for 90 days for investigate the case to proceed the ebay buyer protection program, how long we can wait for this claim? have to wait here wait there, raelly troublesome.

This post has been edited by digiworld: Jul 11 2008, 09:11 AM

haish..of coz the selller aint gonna reply larr bro..dem son tht guy..haish..neiama...arghh..huhu..

ed.. i dunno where got balai polis nearby lrt..
maybe u can ask fren here.
i cant go as there is so many things to be handle in this early semester.
but i am trying to go if possible.
anyway, gud luck to you.

Look like you just read first and last post, ignoring any post in between. You should notice I have mention that I kena con in 2nd post. 2 dispute open before with eBay, at end the dispute close with no actions. Wasting 100 days just like that (10 before open dispute, 90 days waiting for nothing).

Read this post #123 in http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/661024/+120#

and also post #156 in http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/661024/+140

i read your post already, then what thing i should do now, wait 90 days and ebay will auto close , but why someone can successfully do claim by ebay one ---Shazrin case ?

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Added on July 11, 2008, 9:32 pmif pay buy cash deposit in bank machine can say is eligible or non eligible for ebay policy? confuse leh...

This post has been edited by digiworld: Jul 11 2008, 09:32 PM

It depends, if more people report to eBay, they will look this seriously. For my previous case only me open the dispute (I guess) so no action, why eBay bother to take time to handle such small things. That what I thinking.

For Shazrin case, eBay did sent me an email to ask for proof of payment to proceed with claim but I haven't pay yet (luckily actually).

So better to keep your cash deposit machine receipt, make a copy of it cause the paper is thermal paper that will fake over time (why does bank use such stupid paper anyway ).

you still have it, do you....???

yes, im still have the bank slip , but the ink not very clear, sien.......

Photocopy with darker setting or scan and use software to make it clearer. Might need to fax to eBay if they ask for it.

thanks for your info

Ed? any news from you?

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Added on July 13, 2008, 9:57 pmadded new info at the first post..
dah agak dah bukan no dia..
Even ic also tipu.. or maybe he didnt pay income-tax??? who knows..
not a malaysian citizen probably this pity bantap..
Maybe he read this thread as well.
now the store also gone with the wind..


This post has been edited by emjay_4u: Jul 13 2008, 09:57 PM

hehehe,dun worry insyaAllah ada rezeki akan jatuh jua orang ini,lets pray together...
i hope he realize his mistake,cheating cant last long dude,unless u take our money..
invest it,pay us back when u got the profit...hahaha..

You so funny Ed...

By the time he got profits, you already forgot all this....

As an eBay member myself, I completely understand your concern and I cansee your desire to have this resolved as soon as possible. As I checked on the Item Not Received Dispute on your account,you have filed it last July 10 2008. Based on our timeline,you can only close the dispute and escalate it to a claim if the seller does not respond within 10 days from the date of the dispute filed.From that time line,that the only time the option "I feel I have no other option but to escalate this to aclaim" will be viewable. I appreciate the opportunity to have helped you with this information and trust that it answers your query to your satisfaction. Thank you for your cooperation on this matter.

*mean that 10 more days i can open the claim program from ebay liao?

That good news.... But that is from WHO? he say as an eBay member himself.....

Is that from eBay Malaysia Customer Support <myrswebhelp@ebay.com.my> or personal message?!

This post has been edited by nordingh: Jul 14 2008, 02:23 PM

yes, from ebay myrswebhelp@ebay.com.my

so fast they take action... good luck guys on your case....

I REPOTED TO THE POLICE,THE LEAST I could do.

also cheated by this stupid guy?

whr r u frm dude???

Yes,I posted a note on 07-07-08 09:06 MYT ebay.com.my community forum regarding the seller who cheated me Rizal bin Mohd.

I received a message from an eBay member nordingh saying there is a link to this forum lowyat.net about that guy a.k.a thebantap.

So here Iam. I reported to the police on 7-7-08 at balai polis brickfields kl..soon after I find out his cell-phone is off n the item I ordered not arrived as promised.
Right after I called the number appear on a new profile name which a guy answered named TAN .He dosent sound like that guy Rizal Bin Mohd voiced since I had called him on 1-7-08 to deposited payment into his AMBANK credit card account at Damansara Branch and I remembered his voiced.
I also have fax to AMBANK 21713171 the original copy of my police report at 8-7-08. But up untill today there is no feedback from them.

Welcome here gotcheated....

I ask you to come here because we have a lot discussion to do and I'm helping emjay to gather all people.

You may visit this as well. The way is similar to this case and there is some useful info about cyber crime unit there,
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/661024

hey the info from maxis same with from celcom in the case of shazrin in other thread..tah betul or not tht guy name..add oso look same...haish...

thanks nordingh,I log into the link you gave on the last reply at http://forum.lowyat.net./topic/661024

With what I have read.n a lot of ppl got coned the same method.I belived that ebay.com.my most probably are involved ,maybe there is an inside job that gave the so called 100% feedbacks on their sales records to one or more conman n how possible there is more than one conman,it may be a gang-members doing these modus operandi scam.

what the logical next step?

gotcheated, seller can create how many buyer he want. Then from time to time left the feedback to only account that register as seller. That way will make the seller so real.

Ed, good job there, I also not notice about the name. Confirm same guys done this... Can use that info when report to police.

This post has been edited by nordingh: Jul 18 2008, 01:11 AM

ya.. a just know that the owner is same when Ed msg me..
now waiting ebay to email me back.. aiyo..
not enough time to lodge a police report.. so many assignment.. T_T

ADDED: should i check the details of this ilyas? do you guys think he is the REAL conman?

This post has been edited by emjay_4u: Jul 19 2008, 04:24 PM

emjay, both phone use during the operation, ofcourse same one.

why wait ebay for reply you a mail?

wait email from them telling me what should i do next.

ebay got reply u already, anyone choose the option to claim the ebay protection program already? my one can choose but ebay force me to close the dispute ebay because i select the wrong decision to using cash, actually is wired transfer method

ebay got reply? i didnt get any email from them..

today i received the email claim protection buyer claim from ebay, ask me fax the proof document to them , anyone got received it?

good for you..

i also receive yesterday.
now need to find fax machine pulak.


This post has been edited by emjay_4u: Aug 21 2008, 03:34 PM

emjay, ask someone work at office to fax for you.

Man, I'm sad for you guys. I really hope someday can see this guy in newspaper got whacked up by whole bunch of people because conning around.
Such embarrassing. Good luck guys.

Sad to hear that u guys kena con with this person...
Nasib tak baik...
Try to find him...

faxed already.. now waiting for compensation from ebay..

but now they request for paypal account for transfer claim, now not confirm can claim yet then ask for this pula.....later open liao then say unsuccefull ....

Just give la. At least you do your part.

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Added on September 11, 2008, 11:11 pmGuy...

Guy...

Be careful when buying form eBay. Some of the buyer feedback came from the same buyer that leave feedback to this Shazrin.

I would be careful to buy for this seller. Better check first.

So what do you think.

This post has been edited by nordingh: Sep 14 2008, 11:05 PM

Sorry for bumping back. Where to check the income tax data?

Ask people who work in LHDN.. In my case, my bro is working there.
But he not always got time to check and i also forgot to remind him.
Why? You've been conned and wanna check the data?

So...is this conman still on the loose?

This post has been edited by svage98: Oct 31 2008, 10:58 PM

Emm nope. I just wanna ensure this seller is giving the right IC before buying his items.

how can you trust people so easily by cheap attracting price?? Incredible, nowadays conman are so smart!! . They you use brain for the wrong thing.

Another case reported.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=851937