I feel that upgrading is a very good step ( our engineers spent so much time doing R&D,for sure its to the better side ) upgrade both together not an issue also.
But if you really want, upgrade one at a time, and see whether you can differentiate the areas specified as,per upgrade....

question time, still haven't got a BD yet,

for those using sony 350, pana 60, 80, sharp, do you think you will upgrade to Pioneer BDP-52
Thank You

or more BDs 

or bigger SUB

yeah talking about bomb......the usb charger connected to avr power out running usb fan for the avr just exploded internally with very loud sound and bright blue explosion spark. everybody wakes up bcoz of the loud sound

everything went dead. avr, dvdp, bdp, tv, sub. scare the shit out of me. luckily it's just the fuse box that tripped and everything went ok after i reset the fuse box but the charger definitely toast....lucky for me its just the charger.

so dont simply buy cheap rm15 charger. i learnt my lesson

good thing is now i know where is the fuse for all my av stuff at fuse db box there

No rules, but I can agree with iamsobloodysick. No point using an elite BDP if you use a cap ayam TV.

Just speak 'sky dragon' in cantonese, u'll know why

Never heard of vpost?

Wow thats pricey..

Thanks for the info!!

Even the universal adapter isn't really universal, you need to make sure the voltage first, otherwise you'll need a portable transformer.

Oppo BD83 is USD499 and SGD999 (with region free mod).

Dune was USD499 (up till July31) and USD599 now. It can be bought in Spore as well.

When you say better, what do you mean? What are you looking for?

Dune is more of a Media Player with a BD drive. It uses Sigma Designs SOC. It plays almost all formats and supports E-sata. It is aimed at a different market.

Oppo is a BD player with limited media capabilities. It uses ABT VRS chip. It has superior deinterlacing and scaling.

For sure, but it depends on what the person needs. If it is used for only BD, then i think the Panny BD60 is good enuf.

ar188,
I have seen some BD players even mess up 1080p/24fps signals.

I left out some other stuff, but if you are interested there is a colour space conversion as well.

BD is encoded in YCbCr 4:2:0.

All BD players need to do some colour space conversion.

The signal needs to be converted and sent out in YCbCr 4:2:2 , 4:4:4, RGB 0-255 or RGB 16-235.

Some chips do this very badly. Some convert the signal to RGB then reconvert to YCbCr. Some do the other way.

Some of the other things that a BD player needs to do is chroma upscaling error detection/correction and if necessary frame rate conversion and progressive signal reprocessing.

As I said earlier, some BD players convert a 24Hz signal to a 60Hz signal and then reconvert it to 24Hz. I know fo 2 players that do this and they mess it up.

BD players are different. Its just that it will not be noticeable unless you look closely. It is more prominent in displays that exceed 60inches.

Thankfully, the PS3 is a very good BD player in terms of PQ. Most BD players get the stuff almost 90% right. The 10% wrong people don't normally see unless they look.

The Dune is one heck of a set, I would like to get my hands on one to test out its capabilities. If you are viewing media, one thing that is important is the ability to handle non standard cadences. The Oppo does this well even though it is not touted as a media player. I want to test the Dunes capabilites of handling odd cadences to see how if fares.

Will you see all this on a BD? No, so if all u need is a BD player, save ur money and get a Panny BD60! It will keep u satisfied for many years to come.

Bro, mind telling us which 2 players? Just curious.

By the way, great informative post as usual.

suddenly all u guys sound like from the bluray industry itself

We're early adopters bro, we have to know all these to feel good about it. Most of us learn about it the hard way, thanks for our LYN community here that we got to share our knowledge and experience.

Too bad you're no longer a serious BD supporter, as you're one of the earliest BD adopters really.

Display is the primary component of the HT, BD players and all are secondary.

speaking of display in HT, this tagline by Blu Ray association (i think its them who came up with this) is quite true as well..

"Without Blu Ray, your HDTV is JUST a TV"

no one denies that it is a tv or display, depends on how you perceive it.

think the idea of the tagline means that it wont utilize its full potential without blu ray.

thought that message is obvious enough.

and these hi-def media is available due to...?

isnt the HD sat/ca broadcast still limited to 720p?

think they're just saying that blu ray bring the most of the HDTV.

by the way, you guys get HD TV broadcast nowadays?