Hey guys, am thinking of buying a syrian sometime around end of the month or early next month when i move to my new house.
Is Pets World in Midvalley a good place to buy my hamster and get the other stuff?
or is there some other place i can go to?
am staying in cheras, my friend will be driving me when i want to go buy it, so if got other locations prefer not to hard to find places
thanks!

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Added on July 4, 2008, 11:20 pmAlso how much would it cost me for
1 syrian
+ Cage
+ Wheel
+ Bedding that can absorb the smell of the urine
+ Chew toy
+ Water bottle
+ food
+ the rolling ball thing so it can run around the house

and what are the recommended brands for the food and bedding and cage? and should i get a plastic/glass cage or a mesh?

hmm price not bad, but i'm leaning more towards a steel cage so the lil guy has more stuff to do.. like climb. lol
is it cheaper than Pets World? 

hmm, but wouldnt a chew toy help the hamsters not chew like mad on the cages? if i buy a cage i would buy a stainless steel one of course
what about the hamu kichi cages?

hmm, from your responses it seems i'll more likely get a plastic tank
but i dont have a big budget, so the zooone is a tad expensive, even with jtl's starter kit,
how big is the 2ft tank btw? and is there anything like that but bigger

i've seen the ZooZone2.. it was crazy huge! what makes u buy such a big enclosure ar? hehe..

well, 2ft tank is 2ft in length lo..

quite agree with u laa...but i not mix my syrian..coz stil afford to buy each cage for each hammy...
hmm...coz.like people..some like to be lonely...some like to be around others...n some happy live lonely..some cannot...

hamster also can be like that...mayb ur hamster a bit lucky..can stay together de...

i also experience see some one raise golden hammy 8yrs ago...he kept about 5 in 1 tank...happily ever after..never fight...no see any injured hammy...until the golden hammy is like 50 of them...and the cage is no more than 15...

so...i think not all hamster have solitary soul....like robo...people think they can live in group...but some of the robo may not like live in group...that solitary gak...

dun fire2 people laaa....do what u like laa...if the ham get into fight and later die ke..not ur sin...its the owner sin...the more hammy die, the more the owner's sin...

jz try to get a peace in here....
anyway...those hammy cute...but dun want to buy...hehehe...got 5 for myself already...n dun want more...huhu...

n gud luck in ur sale laaa...

ok...i  would like to correct in here bout the sin...
i said it's the owner's sin..the more hamster die, the more the owner sin...right???
meaning here...i refer to original owner laaa,the one who breed them at first place..not new owner...read it using brain....not using heart...ikut hati mati...am i that stupid saying if the hamster dead,its the new owner sin,new owner dun noe anything bout wut happen to the hammy b4 he/she buy...i am educated,not the one who dun noe anything...FYI,b4 i wrote that statements,i carefullly stating my words,i edit n edit many times,make sure u all dun read it wrongly if use brain to read properly,cuz i knoe all of u will flamed the statement,cuz u all hate the statement that "syrian can live in group"...
so i also think that statement will be flamed...my expectation is true...huhu...

thats y i said read use brain...n i also know that terrysoh explanation and method is wrong...

close la this topic...since it not bring any peace in here...i jz said it again and again..i'm jz sharing my info bout being able to see other people syrian can stay 2gether...n i say that the owner is lucky..not saying mine..as i state clearly..mine i kept alone<coz i follow u all clever people instruction in this thread,saying that syrian solitary,which good bedding,which good food,which good wheel,what to feed,whats not,should breed or should not,use cage or tank>......n i not try to win terrysoh...is that WRONG???

so...dun flame my word without reading it by brain..huhuh...u think i like to be flamed????i'm jz sharing story there...berniat baik..ended up..damn...
so??peace in here???

@ mr.ss88

C'mon, don't try to turn your statement upside down here, what you said is already done and you can't change any of it.

Muka so tebal meh ? Just admit lah...

It's scientifically & practically proven that they can't live in group, even they live in group, they will get stressed, you don't know if they are stressed with your very own eyes, their heart rate increase when they are stressed, it's the same when they are not used to being handled by us, their heart rate increase when we scoop them up with our hand (hammie which is not tame)

But sometimes, "one in a million" this phrase is true, same with the video of a Japanese's snake who can live with a hamster (WW) at YOUTUBE.
You don't tell others you're so damn lucky to have a bunch of Syrian that are sociable right ? So wake up my friend.

Wat are those bowl for?
Food dish, sand bathing and water dish?

I got a Q here, how often do you guys change the water in the water bottle ?
On a daily basis ?

Since it's in a bottle, it won't get infected with bacteria or whatsoever so fast if compared to water dish right ?

can u show me a close up of the toilet bowl? i m searching for a toilet bowl which is big enuf for syrians oso..

is the bowl too small for a fully grown syrian?? what is the most economic and common toilet sand u guys use?

can u show da Frisian non clumping cat litter pls~?where can i get it?

hmmm.....if like that 2moro will need to buy one already....
wat about bathroom? will it be needed ?

is cat litter better than the Potty Litter with the pic of the hamster on it stuff?

oh and is it ok to use those disposable tupperwares to hold the hamster food? got a small one like they use for jams and small dodols that I thought can be used, but not sure since from what you guys say hamsters like to bite alot of stuff

wow... really... no comment... zzzzz....

hamsater are meant to keep ALONE/SOLITARY/SINGLE.. dun get her a partner.. kuachi is nt good and dog food is not good either.. tyr to feed her Prestige hamster food or fresh vegie.. if possible try to get Taro nutri smoothie from Petshack (sunway)

better not to mix them. we dont know the active chemical or ingredient in it maybe serve the oxyfresh b4 the smoothie?

Steps when your ham has just given birth.

1) Put them in a quiet place of the house.
2) Do not disturb them except for refilling food and water.
3) Do not change the bedding no matter how smelly it is for the next 21 to 24 days.
4) Remove the male. If not you'll have another batch of pink wriggly things in approximately 20 days.
5) Add protein rich supplements such as:-

-Fresh veggies -> Broccoli, alfalfa sprouts, carrots, watercress, choy sum etc. Make sure washed well. Avoid onions, garlic.

-Fresh fruits -> Apple, banana, papaya, honeydew, pear, mango etc. Do not give avocado and citrus fruits.

-Other protein rich stuff -> Wheatgerm, japanese soft tofu, hard boiled egg white, crickets, mealworms etc. Do not give milo or anything containing cocoa.

6) DO NOT TOUCH THE BABIES. If you really want to peek, wait for at least 3 - 4 days, then use the end of a pencil or brush, rub it in the bedding before gently prying a little to see the pinkies.

Reasons to why most or all the babies do not survive or disappear.

1) The mom feels that she does not have enough nutrition to suckle so many babies. She will cull the weakest one first.

2) The mom feels scared or threatened, so her instinct tells her to cull the babies so that she will have the nutrition and get away in order to be able to have another batch of babies in the near future instead of just leaving the babies to the predator/threat. In the wild, if she thinks that the predator is so darn near and gonna eat her any minute, she'll make a run for it. Leaving the babies without a choice.

But as pets, they don't have that option.

3) The baby is sick/injured and/or dying. She will instinctively kill it so that it hasn't a chance to pass whatever that made it sick if it's an infectious disease, and/or eat it to regain lost nutrition.

NOTE: If the baby dies, most ham mothers WILL eat their babies because if she just leaves it, the stench of rotting flesh will attract unwanted company.

4) She's not a good mom. Though most hams are good mothers, there are bound to be a few that will not suckle their babies and probably just step on them a lot. This will need extra attention to spot so that the unattended pups can be given to a foster mother.

Do not confuse this behaviour when seen in the first few hours after birth. It's normal, especially for first time moms, to ignore their pups for the first few hours. Just leave them be and they will usually know what to do.

A few clear rules

1) All pregnant females should be given their own cage each to nurse and have the pups grow. Do ensure there is enough room for them to exercise and run about.

2) DO NOT KEEP A PAIR TOGETHER FOR THE SAKE OF HAVING A PARTNER. A single sex pair is sufficient for that purpose.

3) Syrian hamster matings MUST be supervised. Syrians are SOLITARY, meaning they cannot live together.

4) Do not breed if possible. Breeding is not a FUN thing for them. It's a burden that will shorten their lifespan, nothing more.

same case like me....   being conned by the petshop tauke.... he said 1 male 1 female.... end up both got balls....      

@jayniel

They've been together since i got them, they sometimes squabble abit but they seem ok together, even sleeping together. If they start fighting i'll seperate them.

@nezumitaro

hehe sorry for the blur pic. anyway i'll try to find a good camera hahaha then i'll take a shot of phing