Hobbies Tamiya Mini 4wd V4, lets and go!
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 May 18 2009, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(TMY kia.. @ May 18 2009, 04:30 PM) wat is the weight different between both below?? matt,actually your car dont need these parts..[attachmentid=971005] vs [attachmentid=971053]  coz you have a really stable car.. i always make your car as my reference to setup a car.. anyway thnks for the knowledge sharing  |
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May 18 2009, 05:13 PM
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80 posts Joined: Aug 2006
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QUOTE(rexoslayer @ May 18 2009, 04:49 PM) matt,actually your car dont need these parts.. coz you have a really stable car.. i always make your car as my reference to setup a car.. anyway thnks for the knowledge sharing  Rexo, tks for ur praised.... but i don't think is stable enough.... how to do more research and experiment make the car nearly perfect..haha... don't refer to much... later u will get crazy..  3days slept for 10hours.... |
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May 18 2009, 05:22 PM
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0 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: Cheras , Kuala Lumpur
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QUOTE(rexoslayer @ May 18 2009, 04:49 PM) matt,actually your car dont need these parts.. rexo , send me a pic of ur car...i want to see plz...coz you have a really stable car.. i always make your car as my reference to setup a car.. anyway thnks for the knowledge sharing |
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May 18 2009, 06:30 PM
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64 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Hong kong
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QUOTE(TMY kia.. @ May 18 2009, 06:13 PM) Rexo, tks for ur praised.... but i don't think is stable enough.... how to do more research and experiment make the car nearly perfect..haha... don't refer to much... later u will get crazy.. 3days slept for 10hours.... |
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May 18 2009, 06:43 PM
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0 posts Joined: May 2009 From: KL
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QUOTE(TMY kia.. @ May 18 2009, 05:13 PM) Rexo, tks for ur praised.... but i don't think is stable enough.... how to do more research and experiment make the car nearly perfect..haha... don't refer to much... later u will get crazy.. 3days slept for 10hours.... Added on May 18, 2009, 6:44 pm QUOTE(david tamiya @ May 18 2009, 06:30 PM) me also same play snooker every night hoo david play snooker ar..why you dont invite to play also This post has been edited by rexoslayer: May 18 2009, 06:44 PM |
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May 18 2009, 06:45 PM
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658 posts Joined: Jun 2005 From: ~ SeTaPaK ~
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QUOTE(rexoslayer @ May 18 2009, 06:43 PM) hehe it is ot a problem 3 days slept for 10hours as long as i can get the best setting Then you need 24hours sit in TU already ..  This post has been edited by R3Ju7Ce: May 18 2009, 06:46 PM |
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May 18 2009, 06:47 PM
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0 posts Joined: May 2009 From: KL
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QUOTE(R3Ju7Ce @ May 18 2009, 06:45 PM) Then you need 24hours sit in TU already .. haha yaloh jay i think i need to ask permission from david to sleep at TU... This post has been edited by rexoslayer: May 18 2009, 06:47 PM |
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May 18 2009, 07:29 PM
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64 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Hong kong
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QUOTE(rexoslayer @ May 18 2009, 07:43 PM) hehe it is ot a problem 3 days slept for 10hours as long as i can get the best setting when u want to playAdded on May 18, 2009, 6:44 pm hoo david play snooker ar.. why you dont invite to play also |
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May 18 2009, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(rexoslayer @ May 18 2009, 10:52 AM) yaloh matt..me too.. Hi bro...my car so slow..using atomic.. i dont know why david and eelen atomic car can be so fast... using apai formula..power to weigt ratio.. reduce more friction..now i'm setting up a new car  Bout the power to weight ratio, U have to remember dats not only the factor u have to consider... When volume of power exceed the volume of weight dat every single power unit/factor (assume) is carrying, it will caused the car to loose traction (too light)... Added some weight is good but the arrangement where does the weight sit is important which it will cause a down force and result in more traction... More traction means u got almost every power of wheel rotation & reduce slips... But too much weight it will cause drag...  So do remind dat... To other sifu, sorry...  Dats juz my opinion & wut i learn in my university, dunno whether it is right or wrong... Sila beri tunjuk ajar... This post has been edited by apai_janggoat: May 18 2009, 09:10 PM |
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May 18 2009, 09:22 PM
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658 posts Joined: Jun 2005 From: ~ SeTaPaK ~
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QUOTE(apai_janggoat @ May 18 2009, 09:09 PM) Hi bro... Sifu has spoken ... Bout the power to weight ratio, U have to remember dats not only the factor u have to consider... When volume of power exceed the volume of weight dat every single power unit/factor (assume) is carrying, it will caused the car to loose traction (too light)... Added some weight is good but the arrangement where does the weight sit is important which it will cause a down force and result in more traction... More traction means u got almost every power of wheel rotation & reduce slips... But too much weight it will cause drag... So do remind dat... To other sifu, sorry... Dats juz my opinion & wut i learn in my university, dunno whether it is right or wrong... Sila beri tunjuk ajar... |
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May 18 2009, 09:30 PM
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2 posts Joined: Jun 2007
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QUOTE(R3Ju7Ce @ May 18 2009, 09:22 PM) Sifu has spoken ... Not sifu la... U're more sifu'er den me... I'm only a newbie with box stock car, plastic roller and a broken frp bumper...  |
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May 18 2009, 09:40 PM
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658 posts Joined: Jun 2005 From: ~ SeTaPaK ~
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then u r my sifu since i more newbie then u tat never touch stock car before ..
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May 18 2009, 10:25 PM
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0 posts Joined: May 2009 From: KL
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QUOTE(apai_janggoat @ May 18 2009, 09:09 PM) Hi bro... wokeh sifu apai..now i got what you mean..Bout the power to weight ratio, U have to remember dats not only the factor u have to consider... When volume of power exceed the volume of weight dat every single power unit/factor (assume) is carrying, it will caused the car to loose traction (too light)... Added some weight is good but the arrangement where does the weight sit is important which it will cause a down force and result in more traction... More traction means u got almost every power of wheel rotation & reduce slips... But too much weight it will cause drag... So do remind dat... To other sifu, sorry... Dats juz my opinion & wut i learn in my university, dunno whether it is right or wrong... Sila beri tunjuk ajar... thnks for the formula.. >>>to jay: jay,actually i'm a newbie..you all are experts Added on May 18, 2009, 10:28 pm QUOTE(david tamiya @ May 18 2009, 07:29 PM) when u want to play lucky ball???This post has been edited by rexoslayer: May 18 2009, 10:28 PM |
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May 18 2009, 10:32 PM
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80 posts Joined: Aug 2006
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QUOTE(apai_janggoat @ May 18 2009, 09:09 PM) Hi bro... Tok apai, tks for explaination... This may me abit...Bout the power to weight ratio, U have to remember dats not only the factor u have to consider... When volume of power exceed the volume of weight dat every single power unit/factor (assume) is carrying, it will caused the car to loose traction (too light)... Added some weight is good but the arrangement where does the weight sit is important which it will cause a down force and result in more traction... More traction means u got almost every power of wheel rotation & reduce slips... But too much weight it will cause drag... So do remind dat... To other sifu, sorry... Dats juz my opinion & wut i learn in my university, dunno whether it is right or wrong... Sila beri tunjuk ajar... Actually, mass damper has explain in wikipedia and it has said F1 has used the same concept too... |
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May 18 2009, 10:40 PM
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0 posts Joined: May 2009 From: KL
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i love to see this car..
anyone owned this car? Attached thumbnail(s) 
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May 19 2009, 12:09 AM
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2 posts Joined: Jun 2007
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QUOTE(TMY kia.. @ May 18 2009, 10:32 PM) Tok apai, tks for explaination... This may me abit... Mass damper is a great technique to get an extra weight / momentum / push force at certain environment / situation without any additional weight...Actually, mass damper has explain in wikipedia and it has said F1 has used the same concept too... At initial condition mass damper may provide a 4g ~ 7g of weight... But once the parts start to slide up & down, the push force / momentum produced gonna be 3 ~ 5 times larger than original weight... At this condition, the hang time of the car will be short... = Kereta land lebey cepat lor, tak lompat tinggi sangat...  But all of this condition need to consider other factors such as friction slide, inertia / hold back force, speed travel and mass... The placement of this system also important as each position can provide different result... The value can be calculated and effect can be proved, but get ready at least 6 ~ 10 A4 paper...  Numbers makes me puke man... Everyday at work looking at this calculations, so not gonna apply when playing mini 4wd...  Any volunteer?... To other sifu, sorry... Dats juz my opinion & wut i've learned, dunno whether it is right or wrong... Sila beri tunjuk ajar... This post has been edited by apai_janggoat: May 19 2009, 12:20 AM |
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May 19 2009, 12:20 AM
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64 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Hong kong
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QUOTE(rexoslayer @ May 18 2009, 11:25 PM) wokeh sifu apai..now i got what you mean.. onn we arrangethnks for the formula.. >>>to jay: jay,actually i'm a newbie..you all are experts Added on May 18, 2009, 10:28 pm lucky ball??? |
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May 19 2009, 12:22 AM
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2 posts Joined: Jun 2007
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QUOTE(rexoslayer @ May 18 2009, 10:40 PM) i love to see this car.. >> rexoslayeranyone owned this car? Aku pn tgh cari kereta nih... Sape ade nk jual?... Mau 2 unit pls... Thanx... >> to all racer Sorry la, today lecture panjang sikit... Otak tengah pening banyak kerja, so semua formula & theory keluar... This post has been edited by apai_janggoat: May 19 2009, 12:26 AM |
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May 19 2009, 12:41 AM
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0 posts Joined: Feb 2009
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Apai r so danger... So many formula... U r nt sifu but professor dy...
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May 19 2009, 01:21 AM
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0 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: Italy
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Good evening Friends,
Stay tuned on these new incoming item from japan They appear to be very effective... TA-94696 e TA-94696   It makes very easy to build a very short Mini4WD with the help of bumperless Item  Also these ones would be very fine expecially the Super X with Carbon Chassis   Interesting news from Hobby Model Show Bye, bye This post has been edited by Mr P of Blue Sky Team: May 19 2009, 01:27 AM |
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