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post Jun 19 2008, 04:30 PM, updated 18y ago

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hi guys...i would like to ask what distortion pedal should i buy to get those 80's tube lead sound..if i require other pedals pls tell me too..
blacktrix
post Jun 19 2008, 06:15 PM

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First of all, what amp are you using? A pedal is only as good as your amp.

And secondly, define "80s Tube Lead"..... As in Metallica-ish sound? Van Halen Sound? Poison Sound? Slash sound? Too many different sounds wei.

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post Jun 19 2008, 06:38 PM

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just buy a marshall jcm800 tongue.gif
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post Jun 19 2008, 06:45 PM

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im using roland cube 15...i want sumthing like pg's lead sound...how??


Added on June 19, 2008, 6:48 pmhmm i dont think its possible without getting a tube amp...so what can i use to get as close as possible?correct me if im wrong,thanx!

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post Jun 19 2008, 06:54 PM

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yes, 80's sound is marshall sound ! Blacktrix, all the bands you're talking about were playing on Marshall JCM800 / Superlead at that time (as far as i know) : EVH, Slash, Metallica, etc...

And you're in big trouble if you want that sound : warn your bank officer smile.gif


Added on June 19, 2008, 6:57 pmget an amp modeller, such as Line 6 POD xt (there is a very convincing JCM800 sound) or POD 3, or Pandora stuff (never tried that). But that's good for recording or playing on headphones. If you put that through your amp, the sound is different (your amp is going to alterate the original sound).
Might be better through a PA system.


Added on June 19, 2008, 7:01 pmand there is a bible about guitar tone :

http://www.amptone.com/

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post Jun 19 2008, 08:30 PM

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Yup...... the only way to get those sounds will be via a good amp modeller like the POD XT or the VOX tonelab (Which I used before my Marshall and still has the best Tube-Based crunch emulation in my book).

But if you're hoping for a magical pedal that will instantly turn your Cube into a Marshall JCM800? Sorry mate.

And yes Pix.... I'm well aware that they all used Marshall, mostly because any metal/rock band loved the Marshall stack.... it's just the various models that I'm referring to.... The infamous Plexis, EVH's #1, or Metallica's early Boogies........
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post Jun 19 2008, 11:35 PM

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thanx 4 da reply guys...hmmm..how about sum effect pedals like metal muff,mxr doub;e shot distortion...n some tube distortion pedals..would it b good?i really dunno much bout effect pedals...
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post Jun 20 2008, 12:23 AM

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I suggest an Ibanez Tube Screamer or the Malaysian favourite (seriously, every guitarist in Malaysia seems to have one) - the Boss Metalzone. Enough tweaking could get you a decent 80s lead tone/sound.

As for getting a Marshall, you probably wouldn't be able to enjoy it. Getting a decent tone out of your stack with a volume set at a "neighbour friendly" volume? I don't think so.

Unless you are a serious gear collector, a tone hound or a gigging/recording musician, a tube stack/halfstack is just a waste*.









*It is however, not a waste if you let fellow forum members use it. I have a basement and rock-loving neighbours. you can store your stack here! biggrin.gif

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post Jun 20 2008, 01:45 AM

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tube screamer is not really for metal, more for boost.
metal zone.. well, yeah, this one is biggrin.gif
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post Jun 20 2008, 02:15 AM

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so what should i get?im on quite a tight budget coz im planning on changing my guitar pickups as well..actually my initial plan was to get pod xtlive but i have to change my plan coz of financial prob..thanx 4 those suggestion guys
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post Jun 20 2008, 08:02 AM

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get a VOX valvetronix amp, like the AD30VT. u can coax a almost JCM 800 tone from that baby.
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post Jun 20 2008, 09:28 AM

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Again, what's your budget?
And even a Metal Zone will just make your cube just gainy and fuzzy....... totally opposite of JP...
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post Jun 20 2008, 03:41 PM

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no not jp..its pg biggrin.gif dats my fren who wants jp sound...my budget is about 500 for distortion only..might get other pedal(delay flanger etc)but its 500 for distortion only..wonder could those boutique distortion pedals would help?im not really into metal sound but rather pg's mr big sound..but slight heavier would be ok too


Added on June 20, 2008, 6:20 pmhmm...would any tube-drive effect pedal help?if yes name me some..

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post Jun 20 2008, 10:01 PM

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Monkeyflier89 : There's alot of things to consider actually.. From amp, to pickups, pedal, and guitar. Not to mention his.. Fingers. Cut them off and glue them onto your own. Don't forget to cut yours off first.

If you want as close to Paul Gilbert as you can, u gotta find out his exact rig n get it all or something as close as possible..
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post Jun 20 2008, 10:11 PM

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Oooh. Whoops. PG not JP. Got it.
But same thing....... the metal zone will break up the sound too much.

The only thing I can think of that's in a single pedal that has that British tube sound, would be the Damage Control Liquid Blues or the Vox Bulldog Distortion pedals....... both is around the RM900 Mark mind you (Tonezone selling the Liquid Blues for RM950, while you might find the Bulldog Distortion at CK Music).

These two are unique in the sense that it's a complete modulator rather then a pedal. Both uses a tube to get the response and they both sound really good on it's own........ although it could end up a bit thinny due to your small amp.

http://www.damagecontrolusa.com/pedals_ind.php?pedal=4

http://www.voxamps.co.uk/pedals/cooltron.asp

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post Jun 20 2008, 11:13 PM

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british tube sound?
marshall jackhammer.
marshall guvnor.

but for RM900+? isnt that around the range of the seymour duncan twin tube classic pedal?

else if want pedal with tube, the cheapest is behringer around RM300.
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post Jun 22 2008, 12:00 AM

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would vox ad30vt help me?or bosss me50?
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post Jun 22 2008, 03:13 AM

 
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i'd go for the ad30vt, XL if possible tongue.gif
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post Jun 23 2008, 05:13 PM

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Howbout Gary Moore's?I think that's sexy, how to do you guys do it?
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post Jun 23 2008, 09:50 PM

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yeah...gary moore's sound is damn sexy too...it will b good to get dat...bsides what do u guys think about "i was born to love you" by queen?brian's solo tone in dat one is also a killer to me..also in dont stop me now..

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