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clngu
post Jul 4 2008, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(winnie08 @ Jul 4 2008, 12:41 AM)
clngu, now im confuse whether to take mcse or straight to mcitp since the latter have lesser exams. means lesser money to spend. smile.gif

will i miss alot for not taking 2003 first? my confirmed interest will be server/system+security.
just finished my ccna course, doing my hard revisions before taking the exam.
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MCSE is for Windows Server 2000 or 2003. MCITP is for Windows 2008. first you have to think the majority of companies is using which version now. the safest bet is 2003. unless you know the company you planning to work is using 2008 or you planning to work in Vendor industry.

example: the company XYZ is using MS Windows 2003 servers in their data centre. they received your resume for technical specialist position. your technical expertise is MS Windows 2008. what would the employer think ?

but then the question is when you planning to take Microsoft exam. this year or next year ? the longer you drag, the scenario will change.

all the best in your CCNA exam. don't fail it ah. haha.
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post Jul 4 2008, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(menghong68 @ Jul 3 2008, 08:53 PM)
my ccna is expired can i still able to take 642 prefix exam? yupe.

then how if i pass all 642 exam can i gain both ccna and also ccnp cert? yupe if you already earned CCNA cert before.
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clngu
post Jul 4 2008, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Jul 3 2008, 08:47 PM)
hi clngu...
just wanna ask... let's say i have a lot of IT certified but i'm not good in english (grammar writing/public speaking... i can say 6 out of 10)... can i demand my salary?
what i'm always read in advertisement is must fluent in english if u want a higher position...
and 1 more thing, if u want to move to higher position/salary, we need to sacrifice our time with family... which i can't afford that...
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demand the salary in current company or new company ? either way, you can demand it. no harm.

Advertisement is just a guideline or benchmark. some people speaking english fast like rocket but no one understand what the person is talking about. senior position requires the candidate to have good command of english, good presentation and reporting skills because the person is dealing with corporate management. so if you want to climb up corporate ladder, better polish your english skills (don't need 10/10). no choice.

senior position not really sacrifice time with your family. very much depends on how you manage it, balance it. especially now more and more companies emphasis work-life balance to their staffs.

example: am sitting at senior level. am managing wisely for my work tasks, work priorities and the time. therefore i have enough time to do my personal things everyday.


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post Jul 4 2008, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(Secret_Garden @ Jul 3 2008, 08:11 PM)
Hi clngu,

Could you tell me what is my market price because I think I under pay by my current company? Currently I have 2.6 years of exp in IT field + Bachelor Degree in CS, MCSE 2003, MCSA 2003: Security, CCNA and LPIC-1.

Thanks.
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different industries have different salaries range. am based on average salary scale. around RM3.8k.
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post Jul 4 2008, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(robb234 @ Jul 4 2008, 06:50 PM)
hi all,

i plan to take NCLP cos i'm kind of interested,
but i dont know much about the current market demand, career prospect, etc.

mind to share ?
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you mean Novell Certified Linux Professional ?
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post Jul 7 2008, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Secret_Garden @ Jul 5 2008, 08:31 AM)
I thought if your CCNA Cert expired, you cant take one of the 642 prefix.

You must to take at least one of the 642 prefix exam before the CCNA expired.

http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/le2/..._type_home.html
Correct me if  i wrong..
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i have found the information about Recertification Policy Update from Cisco website.

"Recertification is an important indicator to IT professionals and their employers, ensuring that the certification holder has kept up with current trends in networking technology. Valid certifications may be renewed indefinitely, but without timely renewal, certifications expire or become inactive. To keep certifications current, individuals should recertify by advancing to the next level of certification or passing the designated recertification exam(s)."

"Renewal requires certification holders to register for and pass the appropriate Cisco recertification exam(s). In order to recertify, exam requirements must be met prior to the certification expiration date. Individuals with an expired certification(s) must repeat the entire certification exam process in order to regain their certification(s). Visit the Cisco Career Certifications Tracking System to check the status of your certification(s)."

"Cisco advises its certification holders to make plans to recertify well in advance of the certification expiration date. To re-certify, certification holders must take and pass one of the professional-level exams or a CCIE written exam before the expiration date. Cisco will send a reminder six months prior to the date that a certification expires, and again one month before expiration."

you can get details from HERE.
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post Jul 8 2008, 10:27 AM

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The programme is open to all MSC Malaysia Status Organisations and its employees. Programme participants are to make own arrangements to undertake their chosen certification/training course and incentive will be disbursed upon successful completion. All certification/training courses must be listed in CDP Professional Development Approved List below:

CDP Professional Development Approved List - Technology based certification

Cisco - CCNA / CCNP / CCSP / CCDP / CCIP / CCVP / CCIE
Microsoft - MCP / MCTS / MCDBA / MCSD / MCSE / MCITP / MCSA / Microsoft Dynamics AX Certifications
Sun - SCJP / SCJD / SCDJWD / SCWCD / SCMAD / SCBCD
IBM - Tivoli / Web sphere / CATE (IBM System p5)
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Software Testing - ISTQB Certified Tester (CFTL / CTAL) / Certified Software Tester (CSTE)
WiMAX - WiMAX ForumĀ® RF Network Engineer Certification
Cognos Customer Certification Programme - IBM Cognos 8 BI / IBM Cognos 8 Planning / Cognos 8 Controller
Others - Brainbench certification series (technology related examination only)


CDP Professional Development Approved List - Non-Vendor based certification

Project Management - PMP /CAPM / PRINCE 2
IT Service Management - ITIL
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post Jul 10 2008, 10:01 AM

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IT graduate or IT professional must know IT technical certifications if you want to get the rewards, respect and recognition you deserve.

MCSE for Windows Server 2003 or 2000. MCTS for Windows Server 2008.
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post Jul 10 2008, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(menghong68 @ Jul 7 2008, 01:26 PM)
Thanks bro! so regarding my situation i think i need to take entire ccna exam like ICND1 & ICND2 to re-cert my ccna because my ccna cert is already expired. It will not work if i continue to take the 642 prefix exam. please correct me if i'm wrong !
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if the status of your ccna certification = expired, then no choice. you have to retake it. you can take 640-802 CCNA exam instead of 640-822 ICND1 and 640-816 ICND2. save exam cost.
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post Jul 10 2008, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(vincentmoo @ Jul 10 2008, 10:20 AM)
hello clngu, i am in a dilemma of choosing my career, i am tired of doing end-user support, which path should i choose? i need to earn some respect

and attractive salary as well rclxms.gif I hold a degree of computer science. After graduation , i work as programmer which i give up after 3 months.
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i am working as IT Technical support, means DO ALL I CAN to support end user, such as server , sql , cirtix, macola, crystal report,

Access programming, need to go batching plant to do maintenance of computer, need to help account auntie to check account ,

I REALLY TIRED OF IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please guide me a way to be a successful IT Professional. i don't mind to work in any field as long as salary

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it seem your current job is one-man show. and it sounds you have both programming and technical skills. to evaluate your situation,

1. you hold a degree of CS. just a basic qualification which everyone does.
2. you worked as programmer for 3 months. now you working as technical support for x months. just a basic skills which everyone does.
3. you have no specialty in any IT areas. may be you have. please name it.
4. you have no IT professional certificates. put you in extreme disadvantage in job hunting and career development.

conclusion = basic computer degree + little experience and skill in programming + x experience and skill in technical support + x number of IT specialties + no IT professional certificate(s) = average worker.

nowadays, employers looking for knowledge workers.

so you either get some IT professional certificates or working in Vendor industry starting from fresh again.
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post Jul 10 2008, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(vincentmoo @ Jul 10 2008, 11:03 AM)
which Professional Certificate should i invest in? should i start from mcse -->ccna --> oca or oca->ocp-->mcdba
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if you want to build your career in networking infrastructure, then you can opt for Microsoft and Cisco technologies. MCSA>MCSE or MCITP>MCTS + CCNA>CCNP.

for career in database, then you can opt for Microsoft and Oracle technologies. MCDBA or MCITP>MCTS + OCA>OCP.

my advice, do not combine both networking skills and database skills. you only can secure one job. both career have its own specialty. in large organizations, database developer/administrator and network/technical engineer are in two different teams. job scopes and functionalities also not the same.

both career, each can earn up to RM10k and above if the person holds MCA or MCM or CCIE or OCM or OCE.


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post Jul 22 2008, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(tplcaik @ Jul 22 2008, 08:57 AM)
Diploma > Degree > CCNA > CCNP  sure is the best. make sure that company using Cisco product. If not CCNP = 0.
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QUOTE(northiswara @ Jul 22 2008, 02:56 PM)
yes........ 100% correct. if the company use Dlink product then u can keep the CCNP in museum. haha.........
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can tell us which MNC/Financial/Technology Service Provider/Oil & Gas/Telecommunication/etc not using Cisco product ???

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