Okay, gonna use this thread as a collection of information for my new pet project. Gonna turbo my parent's company car, a black Nissan Sentra XG-L automatic. The existing Sentra came with a Nismo bodykit..., but I've always found it to be retarded that the bodykit looks nice, but the car isn't fast enough to back up the looks.

Not pic of my car, obviously, but is the same model.



So, I have question for you guys:

-What's the engine code for the Sentra 1.8? I spent too much time in US oledy..., no idea what they dump into the Malaysian market cars.
-Who is the local Brembo dealer? I want real Brembos..., not cheap copy shit.
-Turbo kit. Who is the popular Nissan tuner here? Don't think Nismo has a turbo...

When turbo is on, I'll put on a HKS SSQV, for that "whistle" when you let your foot off.

This project will take some time..., and when I get done, I want to race a Type-R. Anyone here got Type-R willing to volunteer?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/639707

You install this already add 20 HP

LOL.

I might as well tint my windows and get an extra 100HP!!!

too bad sentra rim too small

too bad with power, it does not have the handling to match

Ya lor hor..., I forgot about that. Used to my RX-8's 18 inchers already

If like this..., I wonder if I can just fit a 6pot caliper? I'll go check later, see how much space got.

Eh, this will be a pure straight line car. Idea is to BLAST down the straights, hard on brakes, then turn. Rinse and repeat. I expect loads of mad torque steer, understeer and might be difficult to control.

But who cares? End up faster than Type-Rs I believe.

Plus, IIRC, the Sentra came with adjustable suspension. The suspension "broke" once, send into service, say not broke, so only retune the suspension, and it works fine again.

Dunno leh?

This post has been edited by dothackRAVE: Jun 13 2008, 02:10 PM

How about fitting the SR20DET inside this car?

The FF version from the Pulsar

SR20DET's are pretty cheap, parts are common, and u dont need to fabricate so many things.

SR20DET? Do tell more. I'm interested.

How do the HP numbers compare to the Silvia one?

LOL

wtf

Ya. I'm not kidding.

Want to prove a point that instead of spending 15k being a stupid ricer wannabe to build a TepR, I can spend that same amount and smoke real Type-Rs.

See thread below for reference:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/718243

You can opt for the SR16 or the SR20DET. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTI-R

Powerwise its similar to the early Silvia generations.

If u are not keen on an engine/gearbox transplant. Then maybe u can approach bolt-on turbo kit suppliers like WorksEngineering, i see them advertise their turbokits @ Eneos.

Mmrm..., if must do gearbox transplant, it's going to cost more than 15k. This is just to prove a point..., so I think I might do bolt-ons.

Thanks for the info!

Better u ask JPJ on qualified engine for transplant, cause Sentra biggest displacement is 1.8l. Afraid when come to time you have problem to register engine.

Look like you have large amount of money. Why not play with N/A tune. I could recommend a place to you.

don't cry if you kena tapau by a k3VET equipped kenari on BOTH straights and corners. sentra doesn't come with coilovers. even the ones with nismo bodykits have standard shocks.

Try to source sr16ve..very good engine, equavailent and challneger of honda b16c

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...s&highlite=sr16

This post has been edited by b48753: Jun 13 2008, 03:09 PM

LOL Kenari with K3VET. That will be *very* interesting.

Hard to beat Kenari with a decent engine la. So small car..., light... Nothing I can do about that.

If Sentra only got standard shocks, I think I might just go seize the rear suspension, so in terms of straight line performance, there won't be loss of traction. Turning will be "fun" though.

that's the thing. if you're only thinking about straightline performance, forget about BOT. sure it has the power, but reliability? don't forget, its still a company car secondly, i doubt the new sentra is able to fit older generation engines, although you can always use custom mounts, its still a company car. Lastly, the civic FD2R is built for racing, and even with a souped up sentra that weighs about the same, its comparing apples to oranges as his car is essentially stock from the factory.

Ya. But I'm building this car to prove a point to the TS in that thread. He wants to convert a 1.8 Civic to a "TepR". Want to show him that you can use 15k to make a 1.8 FASTER than a Type-R, rather than waste money on useless body kits.

Just leave him alone ler, its a fact that his car WILL not be a Type R anyway with just bodykits


This post has been edited by shinjite: Jun 13 2008, 03:30 PM

This post has been edited by leng2: Jun 13 2008, 03:41 PM

TRIAL TUNING SPIRIT

-Japanese based tuner, has branch over here in Malaysia.

-Tune mostly Toyota cars but they did also for other cars.

P.S. They also tune my Waja.

lol with 15k, any wira can be as fast than type-r with the proper mods its only how willing you are to wait for the modding process....you know la, papers this and that....

you can try trial. they have support from trial japan, although mutiara motors who is official Greddy arm in Malaysia can help you too.
imho, impul only specializes in bodykits. their cars are tuned from japan, and legally speaking, after the AP fiasco, the company has winded down.

or maybe you can also try RS impressive. they have an...erm, impressive range of tuned cars that even local garages wont dare to touch. a volvo wagon, for instance.

This post has been edited by kev da man: Jun 13 2008, 03:48 PM

kk, I'll check out both.

FIRST must get permission to mod the XG-L. If not, I'll do it secretly..., at night.

Make sure dont get tarpaoed by any Proton cars on the highway XD

Or even a sleeper Nissan Sunny

This post has been edited by SleeplessEyes: Jun 13 2008, 04:26 PM

Got a sleeper in my condo parking!

A 4wd Wira!

TS, another thing is... is it worth it to mod a company car? If company take back then how?

yeah lo, i pointed that out to him

maybe his parents own the company...hehe

his father company maybe?

It's my parent's company. They own the company..., so no reason for them to "take back" since its theirs anyway.

if you are going for real brembo from the real brembo dealer (meaning, getting it new), i think the brembo itself will cost you more than 15k

brembos are not as expensive as spoon or endless. 4-lug kits are rather 'cheap'

Youre gonna spend 15k to soup up your dads companys car to prove a point to a dude who wants to convert his civic to a type r lookalike?
He wants his car to look like a type-r.not perform like one..Couldnt you find a better reason to mod your car?personal preference or genuine enthusiasm?

I don't have a reason to mod any car in Malaysia.

I'm just bored enough to do something like that... Don't have my RX-8, don't have anything to do.

oh..my bad..maybe you shouldve stated you Keep warm by burning money..
Burn away

TS, hw mch is ur budget 1st?! n hw many bhp or whp u except?! if juz wit rm15k, pls dun b so loud! im considering ur car is totally stock, lik wat u stated, wit turbo-charges, brembo full set for N16, wit body chassis & suspension setting, piggyback or standalone ecu, n preparation for another half-cut auto transmission for blowing up the 1 mounted in ur car right now... it's more den rm25+k... n to remind u, current petrol price for ron97 is rm2.7, i know ur car is company car...
to smoke FD2R, i guess u ned to squeeze at least more den 100hp from the turbo... n 3week to a month at least of waiting period before u can smoke FD2R...
rethink bout wat u said...
i wil go for SR16VE neo VVL if i can find 1, but it's limited edition n damn rare...
gd luck to ur project... if u say u gonna cancel it, i wont feel surprise

oh... if thats the case then its a totally different story liao.

Maybe u can checked one of the post in ZTH. There's a mentioned of how to rise the torque of a nissan sentra.

FD2R complete stock at the wheel would be 18x-19x WHP
Nissan Sentra's 1.8 engine outputs 126HP if I am not mistaken so if u wanna TCed it, need to up around 100HP at the wheels

Why must you be bothered? Anyhow he said its his FRIEND who is doing that.

Anyway what happen to your's RX-8?

It's in the State.




TS, I think, the best and easiest way is to swap engine. Upgrading from 1.8 to 2.0 turbo is not illegal for non-local made cars (Proton). So, getting Pulsar's SR20DET is the way to go. 200hp stock. BUT, I am totally not sure of how the engine's mountings differ from your stock engine's. If the need to do an engine mounting adjustment, better scrap of the swapping idea. Not good. Look out for Nissan Sunny/Pulsar's forum and get some advice and further info 'bout their engine mountings. If they say its not a problem, then go ahead with the engine swap.

Bolt-on turbo is not easy. Need to source a reasonable turbo size, intercooler, fuel regulator, bigger injectors, turbo piston, metal head-gasket, better yet, turbo manifold. Those stuffs needed to be customized. Oh ya, most important thing, ignition&fuel management system. ECU la.. If you have no idea on what I'm talkin about, I think engine swap is the way.. LOL..

Do remember if you can modify ur sentra, people can also soup up their fd2r...

that car comes with QG18DE engine. here is some tips for ur BOT project.

Here's the list of parts and websites you can get 'em from:

Protech manifold http://www.protech-fabrication.com
The manifold can be custom flanged and coated for whatever you want.
Turbo (I recommend Powertech) www.powertechimports.com
I recommend the GT28R basically because it's the perfect turbo for the engine, response wise. If you get the GT28R, get the compressor inlet and outlet flanges from atpturbo.com they're awesome.
Downpipe this will be a custom job, but the turbo exhaust flange can be had from www.atpturbo.com and mandrel bends from www.vrsexhaust.com for cheap. Have a shop fab it up for you, easy. Also you'll need some O2 sensor bungs from atp turbo. Say 2. Also you'll need a flexpipe. I suggest 2.5" piping for the turbo outlet due to clearance issues.
intercooler and piping The powertech b15 SE intercooler kit with aluminum piping fits with basically no modification at all. www.powertechimports.com but you'll need silicone couplers and hose clamps. Also, I suggest the Forge 007p diverter valve as a bov, and recirculate it. www.forgemotorsport.com
Fuel management walbro 190lph pump is fine, as is an SAFC II. www.powertechimports.com for these parts. Greddy Emanage is good for fuel control but it's a little picky if you want to adjust timing with it (thats not necessary anyways) Injectors, again, powertechimports, get MSD style 32# injectors with harnesses and clips....ALSO! Get a nismo adjustable fuel pressure regulator and fuel pressure gauge. The regulator will bolt right on the stock fuel rail in place of the stocker.
exhaust VRS 3" tubing kit. www.vrsexhaust.com it's like USD$150.
gauges autometer gauges can be had from summit for a decent price, primary needed is boost.
oil lines http://www.nissport.com/catalog/prod...e=Applications for the oil sender adapter. Get it, you'll thank me. Then fittings for the turbo, www.atpturbo.com they have a GT turbo fittings kit, buy that. It's awesome. The oil lines themselves can be ordered from Powertech as well, just specify the fittings you need (you'll know, trust me)

Tips: For capping off the EGR, there's an axle nut I think from either a nissan or a honda, that will work, you must have a piece of metal welded on it to make it into a cap.
Only run the 2 Pre-cat o2 sensors, the 2 post cat sensors are useless. It's gonna set off a CEL, but the car won't run poorly.
RECIRCULATE THE BOV. Trust me. Don't be a ricer.
If you want to water cool your turbo (I highly recommend this) run the water lines from the throttle body. Just run one from the line that originally goes to hte TB, run that to the turbo. Then run the other line out of the turbo into the TB.

for the oil return line: Buy a spare oil pan for your specific model year QG, have a shop drill and tap the lower pan with the appropriate fitting in the proper location for the oil drain.

it's not especially hard, it just takes some dedication.


and for using greddy e-manage:

Well here's the dilly from what I've gathered so far with the e-manage:
In order for it to read RPM and get control of timing, you need the RPM adapter from Greddy, part number 15900904. There will be 2 wires unused
Controlling timing is very touchy. If you adjust timing any way in lower rpm, the car runs funky. The stock ECU doesn't like it at all. Top end, higher up in the MAF voltages seems to be okay so far though.
Fuel control is good. The adjustment for larger injectors, where you put in stock and where you went to seems to lean it out a bit more than expected, so I don't use that feature at all and leave correction at 1. I'd rather have it run rich for the time being than lean, especially the way I drive.
A great feature I've come upon is the boost sensor/harness. This will allow me to increase fuel upon sensing boost. This way, when I'm in closed loop, where the normal e-manage settings don't come into play, it will increase fuel when I boost in partial throttle.
Tuning is tricky. If you don't have a wideband with proper datalogging software and prior use of e-manage or tuning software, I HIGHLY suggest paying someone to do it on a dyno.

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Added on June 14, 2008, 5:34 pmhere is a sentra with QG18DE TURBO!!


sentra N16 turbo

MODS:
--Garrett GT28R ball bearing turbo, polished and thermal coated
--Protech Fabrication QG18DE manifold thermal coated www.protech-fabrication.com
--Protech Fabrication 3" partial downpipe
--Extrude Honed intake manifold
--Bar and plate intercooler
--Powertech Imports aluminum intercooler piping kit
--Apex'i SAFC II
--VRS exhaust 3" tubing kit www.vrsexhaust.com
--Nismo adjustable fuel pressure regulator
--Walbro 255HO fuel pump
--Forge 007 Diverter valve
--310cc fuel injectors
--Custom stainless braided oil lines
--JIC FLT-A1 coilovers
--Nismo rear sway bar
--Brig 5 17" wheels
--Unorthodox Racing Ultra L 8lb. flywheel
--Unorthodox Racing Ultra G 4 paddle ceramic clutch
...and more!

This car made 191whp at 10psi with the above setup.

This post has been edited by northiswara: Jun 14 2008, 05:34 PM

fu yooooo 15k ........all I can say anyone promising you a working car with the power, control and durability to smoke XXXX cars at that price I really want to meet him.

anyways good luck with your adventure.

if you have any questions you can find us in the Nissan Sentra thread.


ISWARA

GT28R (disco potato) 3k wei not including shipping, I think the price has gone up. Lagi stand alone ECU ....15k I seriously dont think so.

bro,

turbo header already few thousand. turbo few thousand, exhaust work few hundred for cap ayam or few thousand for branded/tuned.
safc new one rm1k. suspension and brake system few thousand. all calculated by thousand in RM.

Ok here is my recommendation for bolting on n/a engine

1. Custom Metal gasket. - Depends mana engineering shop u go la. 2mm metal gasket.
2. Redo combustion chamber. - lowering compression abit, skimmed piston 1mm also reduced compression lots. - cheap way to do.. but risky as the structure of the piston already changed.
3. Customized Turbo manifold. - may varies 2-4k range including intercooler piping plus samco hose.
4. Fuel Regulator+Fuel Pump . 1k
5. Turbo, Cheap ones maybe trying to use a used unit TD04L.. depends on market price... find a unit from Mitsu 1.8 GSR also can...
6. Intercoolers + Intercooler piping.. customized intercooler also start rm450 now... blow off valve rm400...
7. external wastegate optional.

then about fueling setup, the cheapest way just to adjust AFRatio by using AIC(additional injector controller). throw in 2 or 3 injector holder at intercooler piping and put in EVO's Stock Injector Inside (500cc Injector x 2 or 3) fuel already rich , and just wideband and adjust extra injector at AIC. but make sure u buy 3bar map sensors or airflow can read the 'boost'. or u can opt for much better function like.. Greddy Emanage, got Ignition, Stock Injector controller, and 2 Extra injector controller..no need to change stock injector.

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Added on June 14, 2008, 8:30 pmbut one... find reliable workshop in doing turbo car.

steel braided for oil lines can be customized dun worry malaysia got shop doing braided oil line.

optional
- oil coolers
- atf coolers
- suspension upgrade

This post has been edited by detomaso: Jun 14 2008, 08:30 PM

Actually, I was thinking of doing the turbo myself. Kinda bodoh pay someone else to do it when it's my project. >.>

with that setup 191WHP, still hard to play with a FD2R
Need more horsepower for the win XD

cut down on the overall weight to compensate for more power and better handling. Can start with the rear spare tyres, rear seats and other upholsteries.

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This post has been edited by Kenshike: Apr 21 2009, 07:15 PM

sigh, straight roads are for sissy.

This post has been edited by Gouki: Apr 20 2009, 04:35 PM

yes, please enter a corner at other's top speed

This post has been edited by Beach_Boy: Apr 20 2009, 06:26 PM

or please enter a winding road at 200km/h while replying to a sms