Sorry to cut in again...theoretically, should be the same. but TD (Touch Diamond) has a third party battery model, which is much higher capacity. Check this out ----> http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond_...er-news-544.php

bro htc touch viva no 3g wor u ok with that?

BUDGET RANGE: RM2.5k.

Brand Preference if any: Any.

Second hand: Yes/no

QWERTY keyboard: Yes

Keypad: Virtual

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum: 2 megapixels

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes

Front Camera: No

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: I dont give a hoot

Thank you .

I'm now in confuse state dunno what to choose... ... Anyone using HTC Touch Diamond here? Any Good and Bad Experience to share?

Sorry for stupid question... I see the mobile88 say HTC Touch 3G Coming Soon, out edi ah? Thank you all bros..

This post has been edited by hades4eve: Dec 28 2008, 01:20 AM

could get a tytn II

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Added on December 28, 2008, 1:21 ambro read the diamond thread it might help

here's the link to diamond thread
n yep touch 3g is already out

This post has been edited by booooster: Dec 28 2008, 01:22 AM

No need to be sorry, we are all helping each other out. Just that you need to be clear of what you want and a little bit more hardworking on researching/reading reviews/forums and stuff.

And do you still want us to refer to your previous requirements posted on the 25th of Dec? You mentioned that your budget is around 2k but Touch Diamond definitely costs more than that. GPS, you said it's essential for your conputer science project but Touch Viva has no GPS. You said if internal memory is big enough then you don't need the external one, but how big is big? Are you going to place lots of music and video in your device?

Why don't we stick to your initial budget and you tell us how would you be using your PDA? Maybe from most important to less important? EG: computer science project -> surf net with wifi -> organizer -> games

Actually most PDAs can be used (too general, I know); but they all R&D-ed and tested. Only depends on what you want.

Thanks bro...

Maximum budget can go around 2.3 or 2.4 perhaps...
VIVA no GPS ah? I'm a noob in PDA stuff... when i refer to --> http://www.mobile88.com/cellphone/HTC/HTC-...ecification.asp
it written there GPS ( Google map ) its not GPS??

My project comes first... Surf net through WIFI second and the rest I dont really care....
My project need GPS Receiver because I'm going to develop GPS Tracking software. I got my ZEN to store music... video I dont think so. Some music ( like 2 or 3 albums ripped at 44Khz with 192kbps bitrate ) wont take up so much space I guess...
Nowadays the size of the application or software is getting bigger and bigger... 4GB internal memory I scared will be easily run out in near future, around 4 or 5 years time.. ..

I do hope that u all can help me decide coz i have no experience in this PDA stuff... neither on cellphone...
Thank you all

what he means no GPS bro is that yea there is no GPS receiver on the Viva (so u can't use mapking or garmin just like that) unlike the Diamond/Touch Pro/TOuch HD with inbuilt chips.

um let me tell u bro 4gb is quite a lot of space unless u fill it with videos/music/pictures, the applications are not really as huge as u think unless u wanna keep all the applications that u have installed before and use together with the new ones

I have added a screenshot to explain what I meant by there's no GPS on the Viva compared to a Diamond by looking at the spec sheet on GsmArena

I hope this really helps

This post has been edited by booooster: Dec 28 2008, 03:13 PM


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@booooster, thanks dude.

I think the GPS(Google Maps), is like a GPS emulation software that plots your route on the google map and render it real time for you using data connections such as GPRS, not sure how accurate it can be though and you will probably be charged downloading data. I'm quite sure that the Viva has no GPS receiver hence not able to use the real GPS function.

Based on your little usage, my advice would be, if you are not going to show off your new, branded, very expensive, high-end PDA, just buy a cheaper but still good one such as the Asus P750 suggested earlier or the HTC P3600i (old model but value for money). The additional money can be used to buy a standalone GPS device to further test your software, if it's applicable (should be RM300-500 now, I think. I'm so not sensitive about the pricing). However, if you want to show off, the slim, very nicely designed Touch Diamond is the perfect tool that meets all your requirements including budget.

As for the memory, internal 4GB is more than enough to meet your storage requirements. Say 1GB for applications and the rest for music files ripped at the mentioned quality, you can easily store 500 songs already.

I see.... I'm considering Touch Diamond... I wonder when will their price drop?

Since quite a lot of people suggest T. Diamond...

Thank you all.... I will ask u all again... if i bumped into question again..

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Added on December 28, 2008, 1:18 pmOh... GPS ( Google Map ) is something like emulator only izzit? =.= i tot what.... ASUS i see got quite some people commented on it... and its not so good comment actually... P3600i....hmm.... can consider also...

This post has been edited by hades4eve: Dec 28 2008, 01:18 PM

At least another 3 months before you see majoring price decrease on the TD as HTC is yet to announce any new models after the HD. Announcement or news leak often comes before a new model's release.

Asus P750, oh really? Good thing u did your research, I have played with it for 1 whole days 6 months back, it went well for me but didn't seal the deal eventually for its not-so-attractive-to-me exterior design.

its not a emulator but it actually is a program that uses data connection like wifi and/or 3g/ or gprs to pinpoint yr location

and in no way it can be used without aforementioned data connection

hope it helps

Wow... U all so pro siia... wish i could be something like u all ...

@hades4eve

Bro, not me, I am just a peon that reads a lot...last time.

lol not pro la just that its my passion

lol, its been long since i last posted a recommendation here XD looks like got new people recommending d. good. lol

Baronic and me can go play COD more often hahaha.

Dude, we part timers only. Please come back often.

yah man part timer here too

when my job comes along won't be here so often

Thank you booooster.



BUDGET RANGE: RM2.5k.

Brand Preference if any: Any.

Second hand: Yes/no

QWERTY keyboard: Yes

Keypad: YES

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum: 2 megapixels

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: EDGE also sufficient as long as can access internet when WiFi can't be utilised.

Front Camera: No. Isn't front camera comes together with a 3G-featured PDA ? Front camera similar to 3G's camera shooting at the user ?

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: I dont give a hoot.

Can recommend again on this new requirement, highlights in RED font.

Thank you,

we're all parttimers la, just helping out new persons who are interested in PDAs

Hmm, fancy a touch screen or just a smartphone?

If you want a keypad with a qwerty, the best to look at is the S740 ( Smartphone ).

This post has been edited by dadarouch: Dec 29 2008, 10:42 AM