both are okay choices but since u're working i recommend getting a QWERTY keyboard. I'm not sure HD can plug into LCD, shud be able to if u just get the cables, but u shud check out the TOUCH HD thread

BUDGET RANGE:below rm2500

[b]Brand Preference if any: Eten / HTC / Ipaq / O2 /Others like Gigabyte etc please specify. Delete this line if u wanna consider all

Second hand: no



[b]QWERTY keyboard: Yes /

Keypad: Hardware

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: Yes (buying it from US)

Camera Resolution minimum: >3.0megapixel

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes

Front Camera: Yes

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Not sure wats the US price, but i think shud be cheaper if u get it with a line. but using Malaysian pricing, with qwerty, i recommend looking at Samsung Omnia and HTC Tytn 2

and u cant have keypad hardware with qwerty. only one model fits well if u MUST have keypad hardware plus qwerty and thats HTC s740. And its not touch screen

Second hand: no
QWERTY keyboard: NOT IMPORTANT
Keypad: NOT IMPORTANT
GPS: preferably
Bluetooth: Yes
WIfi: Yes
Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no
Camera Resolution minimum: 2mp
Expandable Memory: Yes
3G : NOT IMPORTANT
HSDPA or higher: NOT IMPORTANT
Front Camera: NOT IMPORTANT
Gaming Type: Light gaming
Screen Resolution: NOT IMPORTANT

Actually I just need a budget PDA as my first WM device. My choices are down to Asus P320 and HTC Touch Viva. I realised that the Viva's price actually went up? Retail price was RM1299 now people selling in LYN for RM13xx. Is that normal? Anyway what's the difference between P320 and Touch Viva? I'm a PDA newbie so I'm not sure about it... do give some comments on the hardware, service, etc... Touch Viva has no GPS so cannot install GPS software?

Would it be a good idea to buy at PCFair? Or it's just an opportunity for them to totally rip you off?

This post has been edited by Dannyl: Dec 12 2008, 12:44 AM

Second hand: no

Budget : Around Rm2.5k - RM3k

QWERTY keyboard: Not Important.

Keypad: Virtual

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum: at least 3MegaPixel. Best if with a good flash light.

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: yes

Front Camera: Not important

Gaming Type: Heavy gaming

Screen Resolution: I dont give a hoot

Been using normal mobile phones for ages. Feel like changing to a PDA phone if I can find one that really suit what I need. Thanks ~

yea yea..i ady fall in love with that...htc s740!!!!..do u noe the price at msia??..is it worth if i buy it from us?

tq

@balkisfb, i dunno the price in US

@tgairborne, flashlight? hmmm, i recommend HTC Touch Pro

@danny, PC fair usually PC stuff cheaper, pda stuff like these no difference and no good deals. might as well buy here. And yes the P320 has GPS but Viva has more ram. Viva is probably more customisable. But it cannot install GPS software no point cuz no GPS chip. Never heard of price going up. I'm still selling at same price. u can check my siggy

BUDGET RANGE:3k max

Brand Preference if any: HTC/ Samsung

Second hand:no

QWERTY keyboard: doesn't matter

Keypad: doesn't matter

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: Yes

Camera Resolution minimum: doesn't matter

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes

Front Camera: Yes

Gaming Type: Light - medium gaming

Screen Resolution: I dont give a hoot


what's the advantage of a vga screen compared to a qvga?
currently i had 3 candidates in my list,the touch pro,tytn II n omnia,but finding it hard to choose which 1
your professional help is very much appreciated

QVGA = Quarter VGA. Means QVGA has quarter the resolution of VGA.

Then there's WQVGA = Wide QVGA
and WVGA = Wide VGA, which essectially is a bit wider than usual.

SInce your budget allows it, i recommend the Touch Pro, which is definitely the best among all thread if u can afford it

Actually I want a PDA which can serve as a real "PDA" and can last for few years. I don't need mobile phone feature since I already got a decent mobile phone.

BUDGET RANGE: less than RM2k

Brand Preference if any: HTC, O2..but if you got better suggestions, do bring it up.

Second hand: NO

QWERTY keyboard: no

Keypad: Virtual

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no (relates to warranty, and the type of band Pdaphone running on)

Camera Resolution minimum:2MP

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : No

HSDPA or higher: No

Front Camera: No

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: I dont give a hoot

~mainly need it as a PDF file reader..so..do help me figure it out..

just to sort things out, was aware of this HTC touch viva..any other nice suggestions?

hye baronic...i'm finding for pda...currently thinking abt tytn 2....i prefer got keyboard since it is easy to type a message..but the model wit keybrd a bit think..so wanna ask ur opinion...is there any PDA that i can use finger to wrte message(big letter)...coz b4 i used o2...but the letter is small and i need to use stylus..hard for me...so, cn suggest me...?

rehohk, use the form at first post, and nowadays for HTC models anyway, non keyboard devices got Virtual T9 keypad. Like typing sms with a normal phone like that but one screen can use one hand. and the letters are bigger than a normal keypad too. please fill in form at first post for recommendation.

@siuyi, Viva no GPS. PDF file reader is software, so u just need to get the software and you're good to go. i believe its a freeware download.

I recommend HTC P3600i, or the newer HTC Touch 3G

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Added on December 14, 2008, 10:36 am@whoami123, in that case u want to go for Ipaq models for pure PDAs. HP Ipaq 210 is a powerhouse, while the 110 is a more budget model. I recommend 210.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF...903-215384.html

This post has been edited by Baronic: Dec 14 2008, 10:36 AM

Baronic
means that with that budget i can get a less expensive yet without the PDF reader, but i can install it into my pda so that it is readable?any cheap pda ler?means i dun need till rm2k to get my pda lor?

p/s:neglect gps..wat is cheap for me?

This post has been edited by SiuYi: Dec 14 2008, 11:20 AM

Budget: 2.5k+/-

Brand Preference if any: HTC or others

Second hand: no

QWERTY keyboard: Not important

Keypad: not important

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum: 3mp

Expandable Memory: not so important ..gotta see pda space

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: err ..yes?

Front Camera: not important. best is yes

Gaming Type: moderate gaming

Screen Resolution: VGA / QVGA / I dont give a hoot

Purpose: work and fun

thanks.... if possible can list the the price please...

thanks alot. ..

ps: abit q&a > my aunt is in US and she said the HTC phones are cheaper there, if she buy back is there warranty with it? (i forgot ask her international or what warranty coz phone bill).

thanks

This post has been edited by alvinz: Dec 15 2008, 12:41 AM

I'm not sure how much is the price your aunt can get so i cant comment if its cheaper. if the device is your aunt buys is labeled and packaged as HTC, u can get it repaired here, but must pay. cuz essentially no warranty.

BUT if its a HTC device, but labeled by the operator (such as Sprint, vodafone) SIS will NOT repair even if u pay them since considered illegal.

no international warranties for HTC devices (or other pda branded devices as far as i know, maybe Ipaq, not sure)

I recommend a Touch Diamond, with extended battery. Its the TOP choice, super powerhouse, can do heavy gaming, sweet VGA screen too. RM 2400 + RM 250 (this is my price, so since u wanted price, u quote my selling price)

Alternatives would be HTC Tytn 2 and HTC Touch Cruise. Both fill in your specs, medium gaming, but in terms of entertainment power, less, due to the fact they dun have video drivers. see www.htcclassaction.org for info. and some more brand new (as u wanted) its price is not THAT much cheaper than diamond, but it IS cheaper. so your choice. i'd recommend go for diamond.

Tytn 2 and Cruise is 2420, and 2390 respectively.

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Added on December 15, 2008, 12:59 amu can also look at the cheap Asus P320, about 1.2k and has GPS.

i think even if u take out GPS, not much difference, cuz u want brand new lol. if u take out brand new and take out GPS, u can opt for a second hand Dopod 838pro. If you're lucky its less than 1k u can find.

This post has been edited by Baronic: Dec 15 2008, 12:59 AM

thanx 4 ur recommendation bro baronic..now the choice is more clear,as clear as a VGA screen,hehehe

Thanks for the recommendation

no problem guys, glad i can be of service

currently in dilemma on HTC Touch Viva and Asus P320...

thanks