bcuz I asked someone like gundamalpha that certain games get this sort of big box treatment like Lost Odyssey. I'm just a little puzzled that it looks like an LE box. thanks mr ez!

First and last run
The main story was like 40-60 hours only, but:
all quests = >10 hours
seven star dungeons + colosseum + max level + max fol = >10 hours
farming materials and crafting the best equipments = >10 hours
wandering dungeon = >20 hours


Yea, 1080p. If hang during gameplay then i don't know, but if hang during cutscene, then there is a cause.

ya ,cutscrene at disc 2 with 1080p resolution display setting

Because kyo is selling the ori game now which comes in a bigger than usual box

See if your controller is turned off.
You see, the cut scene is like hours so the controller will auto turn off due to inactivity.

My view on SO4: was a nice 360 game. Like any other Tri-Ace's game, the gameplay simply is something an active real time rpg would love. Blindside was a nice feature, unfortunately it quicklylose it's role late in the game (especially when BEAT:B become more and more important), where most will simply grind the monsters/bosses with the uber strong Chain Combos.
Story-wise is okay for me, but in term of characters, many of them failed. Hard. Sarah, Lyme, Bacchus, Faize, Meracle, even Edge too (note these are just my view). Reimi (and probably Arumat) is the only balanced, well developed character in the game in term of combat abilities and personalities.

man I hate Wondering Dungeon. No save point means I need to run for more than 5 hours go through the whole floors all over again to reach Ethereal Queen, it's so tedious especially whenever the floor deals with geostone. Currently I've only explored till floor 12. Will continue again once I think I have more than 7 hours to spare on this

ps: Armaros Manifest remains as crazy to beat as ever, even in WD

This post has been edited by saphir: Apr 4 2009, 01:54 AM

Off topic- Seraphim? Is that u?

Lots of people complaining the armaros menifest is difficult, but seriously, i didn't find any problem at all. This is the only boss you really need to use beat:s, even in wd, a few blindside chain combo will down it very quickly. Spamming combos is not a good option here because the damage you do is really low and armaros can do really high damage, one of its attack can halves the hp of my characters with 99999hp and 9999def. The rest of the bosses you can just spam chain combo until they are dead.

For WD... good luck man, if you want the best stuffs, you need to go in at least 3 times... first 2 times just to buy emblems, third time finish off all 3 ethereal queens, and 3 times is provided you beat all 3 modes of eq without being wiped out...

^unfortunately i only know the trick to beat him a few days ago lol. Will be useful in my next WD run.



Yeah, need to do some more synth after this. Currently I do have some neat stuff in my disposal (Moonstone Blade, Artifact Bow, Valiant Mail etc with synth ATK/DEF/HP%+ and stacking Ashlay's), although not as good as Tri-Emblem synthed equipment. Already got Philosopher's stone, but have yet to get Dragon God Scale. So I need to run through WD one more, then synth that equipment and then do the final run to face EQ

I think I might not going to focus much on Tri-Emblems, since I'm not that filthy rich to buy 20 of them (despite finishing all of Santa's order), and not in the mood to grind Metal Scumbag. Do you think synthesizing Ashlay Jewel instead of Tri-Emblem into my next ultimate equipments would be sufficient to face EQ?


edit:
@rid: ya that's me

This post has been edited by saphir: Apr 4 2009, 03:06 PM

For EQ it doesn't matter how godly your equipments are, you only need the right strategy, and also, having loads of hp helps a bit too. The godly equipment are just to allow you to breeze thru the WD mobs and bosses with ease.

I'm not sure if you know the ultimate fol farming... but it only takes like 10min to farm max fol... so why wouldn't you wanna do that?

Well, since you'll be spending like 3-4 hours to farm magic clays and materials to craft the best basic equipments, you probably want to spend another 6 hours (2 rounds of 20 emblems) to make them into the absolute best equipments? The Ashlay jewel is complete crap comparing to emblem if we are talking about stats.

nah, it's just that I don't really feel like doing it right now (on top of that I haven't even synthesised any Fol%+ gear) and want to finish EQ asap. Well, I only aim for the EQ achievement after all, hence the 6-winged EQ can wait later once I truly have load of free time to do the fol trick.

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Got through till floor 17 last night, damn now I know Armaros is THAT easy He really is weak to Blindside's Crit. I wish the remove level cap Bonus would allow us to go farther than level 255, reaching max level is far too easy in WD. Got some Dragon God Scales (and a couple of Tri-Emblems) too, can't wait for EQ : D

any ideas where to kill grigoris ? it seems that i need to kill grigoris to complete my battle trophy....currently in Seven Star Dungeon B6...just killed Tamiel...

Aren't grigoris the bosses? Maybe can just repeat WD multiple times?

I see...will need to replay eventually...missed the kill 100 Kokabiel Spawn Battle Trophy... I thought there would be normal grigoris enemies in WD though...then it means I will need to kill those bosses again...is Gabriel Celeste or Barachiel Fallen a grigori ?

Anybody still playing this game... coz i want ask something... now i at disc 2.. and stuck at Tatroi to find "Love Song Shop and Accessories"... to claim a reward for finding item.... but.. i cant find it in tatroi.. donno this game got bug or i miss something.... damn..

got wehhh
gamefaqs.com

finally i beat E Queen 6 wings form(galaxy mode)....but it took me 2 hours to beat her!!!!! is there any easy and fast way to beat her?

for 2 and 4 wings form only 15 - 20 minutes to beat her down.

i use two healers sarah and myuria, all i did was keep resurrection and restoration all the time,
i barely able to control my attackers, they keep dying like every 20 seconds.

all my party at level 200, atk 9999, def 6000-7000 and heavily synthesized equipment with tri-emblem.

fuhh~
i stuck at disc 2
coz last time i renew my gold
and people spam me ivt to play gow2
till now
lol

Hmm, were you using 2 healers 2 tankers strategy? That is safe but slow.

IIRC, i put edge and arumat as sandbag, take turn to die, then at the back i control sarah and reimi. Reimi is the damage dealer, keep spamming the dunno wat skills that shoot multiple arrows at one time. Sarah of coz keep resurrecting, bear in mind to keep the timing where only one tanker is on the floor at one time, there is no need to try keeping two tanker alive at a time, if you keep both alive means there will be a chance where both are dead, then EQ might switch target and mess up the flow.

Hooooooooooly crap the cutscenes and storyline for this game thus far are so rubbish. Admittedly I'm only a couple of hours in, but at one point my 3 sisters aged between 11-17 also were watching some scenes and they agreed too.

And bloody hell, everytime Lymle talks I feel like punching the TV.

And worst of all is the targetting during combat, it is SO annoying. When my edge is running away from 2 mobs, I WANT TO TURN AROUND AND ATTACK THE MOB CLOSEST TO ME, not the one attacking Reimi who isn't even on the bloody screen. Seriously, I can't play this game for more than an hour at a time without feelings of wanting to throw my controller at a wall raging up.