Seriously? Japs ver interface really looks last-gen comparing to english...

Does anyone know where can i invert the x-axis? I hope it is doable, or else I must say i am utterly disappointed with the camera control... The graphics is certainly lousy, both in-game and CG, comparing to the recent RPGs. There are many more minor minor things that i am not comfortable with, but those are maybe I'm not used to SO system.

This is definitely not what i expected. I hope the game system and story will get me hooked to the game.

The setting page is longer than 1 pages... all the audio gameplay camera control are in following pages... can't believe i never noticed...

Ok so with the controls are fine, SO4 is definitely playable now. A very typical jRPG, where you will spend 90% of your gameplay time leveling, item farming and finding treasure chests... I can estimate at least 200 hours for 100% completion.

A lot of achievements are missable if you only wanna do one run... all those monster, weapon, ship records... then the item creation because some recipe are missable... also, you might not get all endings if you don't do the personal action right... geez. I already gave up on 100% item creation (missed a f***ing recipe at the start of the game) and the difficulty achievements (the hell i'm gonna play this twice!).

I actually hate all the characters... emo teenagers, crybabies, a loli that i want to strangle her or kill myself every time she speaks...

Haha, i'm exactly at that part of the story too~

Btw when can start entering colossuem? Must after saving the angle?
I just got the big boobies, leveling her atm, because her initial level was so low, lvl33 only... comparing to Edge which is lvl50...
I'm so glad i have a replacement for the stupid-kay-kay-kay loli...

For 100% boss data, make save A before boss fight, after that save B. Then load A, beat the boss again, overwrite B, repeat till 100%. Miniboss is 15% per fight, boss is 30% per fight.

I also just got the the shinigami guy, currently leveling him and the angle, they are WAY low level... initial level 30+ only, the rest of my party is 50+, uh... but the best thing is, now my party is free of annoying characters, shinigami, robot, angle and big boobs, lol!

My party now is Arumat, Reimi, Sarah and Myuria.

Meracle is an absolute beast if you control her yourself. But really, after thousands of battles, I'm not too fond of chaining combos doing flashy moves... Now i only use Arumat, berserk at the beginning, spam Diabolic Edge, win.

The airborne is cumulative ma, just do a lot of air juggling moves lo, one time 3 sec, so... 600 times >_<

Arumat and Faize is independent one, so the game have a total of 900 trophies... If you are aftering 100%, i suggest you complete Faize trophies before he cabut and then you complete Arumat's on first playthru, if not you have to play second game, where you get to choose to keep Faize instead of getting Arumat, so then you can work on Faize.

The tree monsters ah, do not keep charge at them unless you have "no guard" and can finish them in one skill coz they can break bonus board easily... just keep SO them slowly, after 3-4 hits, run away, SO again.

Sarah is the phailed-fly scene, Meracle is the scene at Tropp dock. Thanks to the STUPID wrong information from Brady guide, i don't get the EdgexReimi scene.

You can game over in about 40-50 hours. But if you want to complete bonus dungeons, all the items, trophies, everything, at least triple the time.

Wandering Dungeon is f***ing insane, the developers must be outta their f***ing mind... It's not the difficulty, it's the f***ing tediousness... There is no save point and the dungeon reset of you quit half way (meaning have to do all the stupid quests and fight all the bosses again next time you come), great.

I spent 6 hours to reach lvl18 and i beh tahan liao, as soon as i bought everything from Santa and got the important item ingredients, i quit, i rather go and farm magic clay and dupe everything i need...

I was about lvl120-150 during Nox. I find it easiest to just use Arumat, spam 3xDiabolic Edge, or 2xDiabolic Edge->1xAerial Gallow. There is a nice leveling spot at second area, the alien mob, let them surprised attack, you get about 50k exp if you have 14 tiles experience bonus. Just level enough till you find not much problem, it's not worth it to spend too much time leveling for the story boss. Later when you can access seven star, you'll hit max level for all members and max fol in 1-2 hours.

Hang? During gameplay or cut scenes?
I didn't experience any issue in my ~150 hours gameplay.

First and last run
The main story was like 40-60 hours only, but:
all quests = >10 hours
seven star dungeons + colosseum + max level + max fol = >10 hours
farming materials and crafting the best equipments = >10 hours
wandering dungeon = >20 hours


Yea, 1080p. If hang during gameplay then i don't know, but if hang during cutscene, then there is a cause.

See if your controller is turned off.
You see, the cut scene is like hours so the controller will auto turn off due to inactivity.

Lots of people complaining the armaros menifest is difficult, but seriously, i didn't find any problem at all. This is the only boss you really need to use beat:s, even in wd, a few blindside chain combo will down it very quickly. Spamming combos is not a good option here because the damage you do is really low and armaros can do really high damage, one of its attack can halves the hp of my characters with 99999hp and 9999def. The rest of the bosses you can just spam chain combo until they are dead.

For WD... good luck man, if you want the best stuffs, you need to go in at least 3 times... first 2 times just to buy emblems, third time finish off all 3 ethereal queens, and 3 times is provided you beat all 3 modes of eq without being wiped out...

For EQ it doesn't matter how godly your equipments are, you only need the right strategy, and also, having loads of hp helps a bit too. The godly equipment are just to allow you to breeze thru the WD mobs and bosses with ease.

I'm not sure if you know the ultimate fol farming... but it only takes like 10min to farm max fol... so why wouldn't you wanna do that?

Well, since you'll be spending like 3-4 hours to farm magic clays and materials to craft the best basic equipments, you probably want to spend another 6 hours (2 rounds of 20 emblems) to make them into the absolute best equipments? The Ashlay jewel is complete crap comparing to emblem if we are talking about stats.

Aren't grigoris the bosses? Maybe can just repeat WD multiple times?

Hmm, were you using 2 healers 2 tankers strategy? That is safe but slow.

IIRC, i put edge and arumat as sandbag, take turn to die, then at the back i control sarah and reimi. Reimi is the damage dealer, keep spamming the dunno wat skills that shoot multiple arrows at one time. Sarah of coz keep resurrecting, bear in mind to keep the timing where only one tanker is on the floor at one time, there is no need to try keeping two tanker alive at a time, if you keep both alive means there will be a chance where both are dead, then EQ might switch target and mess up the flow.

Typical JRPG protagonist ma, sure has at least 2 of these:
-emo (at least for half the game)
-spiky hair
-male+female hybrid look
-gay

JRPG memang like this one lo, you need to spend time to farm, max level max gold ultimate stats uber gears hidden bosses retarded maze dungeons...

About the bonus battle board, you can look at it the other way - it rewards you for continuous play. But yea i f***ing hate it at the beginning of the game where every bonus counts, every time start playing had to spend some times to fill up the board first.

The control is memang gay when you just started playing... but you'll get used to it and master it in no time.

Hehe, and myiura (sp?), jiggling jiggling jiggling~

Disc 3 is indeed a play disc... If it can not be detected, you can't continue after disc 2, so... you better ask the previous owner.