interesting phone...any idea when's it launching and available in MY??

anyone can recomment good AP company to buy N85 from?? And what's the price for AP unit in KL now? I m planning to get one in KL this monday. Can recommend any seller around Lowyat area?

Hi there, just got myself a N85 two days back. Been happy with it.

So far I do not have any major issues with the phone like those listed in the link provided by craxors above.

Only thing I have is :

1. Bluetooth headset keep disconnecting and reconnecting.
2. If u set to ask for security code when different simcard is inserted, it will ask u for the security code everytime you switch on the phone irrespective of whether the same or different simcard is in your phone.

So far, there's no restart problem since using it for the third day now. No restart even when charging using usb data cable or charger.

I am using the supplied 8Gb microSDHC Class 4 (Nokia)

@craxors & @tyss,
I bought a CSL AP set from a shop and its expensive...RM1980. Its full ori Nokia (Malaysia) version and comes with 15 mth warranty. I was one of the early adopters hence the high price but I think its worth all of the money. The screen quality is awesome and some features are superb especially the FM transmitter. Playing radio, MP3 and videos routing its audio to the car stereo. You can also trick your friend by transmitting some weird audio clip over their frequency and they jump ehehehehe.

The sellers in forum may have a lower price but I have enquired some of them but unable to get stock. In actual fact the AP price should be around RM1700 to RM2030 depending on which AP company and ORI set priced around RM2450 (+/-).


The current firmware as it is, does not pose any major concern. So far, all I have is a very minor and negligible issue.

Most problematic I facing is everytime u switch off the phone and when ON back, it will ask u for a security code if u set to ask the code on different sim inserted. Thing is, u don't switch off n on often rite? And even if u do, u can always set it to not ask for code for the moment, untill the new firmware is ready.

Overall the performance is fast, operating the menu is not laggy, audio quality is good. Video at high quality still plays smoothly and does not make the phone laggy. Love this phone. I have always been a SE supporter. Was contemplating btwn SE C905 and NK N85. Only diff is SE is S40 and NK is S60. For SE, you cannot install other GPS software and S60 u get lots of software. I installed Garmin for GPS software instead of using the Nokia Maps which only comes with 90 day trial. Garmin works great man!

well the 2nd hand price may not look good but its actually due to the public which is mis-informed of the OLED. Typical OLED lasts 500,000 hrs of use and that would equate to almost the lifetime of the phone...heck some other parts of the phone don't even lasts as long.

What u can do to preserve the screen is to not turn on any standby screen like the clock and such.

Purposely try the zoom function for u...

The speed was superb. Zooming in each time took less than 1 sec. and the picture was taken in 5 Mega pixel, highest quality the N85 is capable. I am suspecting the review unit has multiple apps running in the background while the reviewer is zooming, since S60 OS is capable of multitask. But for me, when the phone is not multitask, the zooming function i think even some digital camera may not be as fast as the N85.

Zooming in as well as going left, right, up & down in the zoomed picture is less than a second. Its real fast.

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Added on November 16, 2008, 12:59 amI agree with u there. I usually choose AP with its company available locally in my state.

But more importantly, go for reputable AP company. Like my case, I went to a good AP company that sells be the N85 which is fully original Nokia set and its exactly the same as the Zitron / Avaxx unit meaning , its localised for Malaysia as well. The T9 is also capable of Eng, Malay, Chinese. Also it readily comes with MMS, GPRS, 3G settings for the local telcos. Also the phone and all the accessories comes with the authentic Nokia sticker.

This AP unit is of course more expensive than other AP company's but its still a lot cheaper compared to the Official Ori unit, but then mine's just as Ori as the Official one.

This post has been edited by yupio: Nov 16 2008, 12:59 AM

hrm...I can't say much about the camera quality as compared to other 5mp phone cams coz i dun own any other 5mp phone cams except the docomo SH906iTV which is 5.2MP autofocus but then the pics from the N85 is still better than the docomo (which is a SHARP manufactured phone). Overall I m happy with the N85 produced pictures.

oh ya the navi wheel is really not usable...not sensitive enough and there's no sensitivity adjustment.

I think what u r referring to is the Nokia Maps software which comes with the N85 with 90-days free voice navigation after which, u've gotta pay for the full software. GPS receiving is free and fully unlocked.

Yes, I am ditching the Nokia Maps and using Garmin XT instead with map from malsingmaps, latest is Sept 08 map.

Oh, I thought I need to tick off Assisted GPS instead of Network Based. Anyway, what's the difference between Assisted GPS and Network Based? Aren't they the same?? Confused!!

nolar, at the moment not many users yet i think.

AP RM16xx - RM19xx

Ori RM22xx - RM24xx

hrm...no issue with that....maybe mine's still new. Only been a week owning it. The slide down (to expose the media keys) is a tad tight though.

Tried again just now with the phone slide up (showing the numeric pad) and tapping n pressing the Eng Call button. I tried softly and harder, both do not give any squeaking sound. In fact, I cannot feel the top piece and the bottom piece of the phone moving (i.e. getting closer to each other) at all. Its a very solid slide mechanism.

This post has been edited by yupio: Nov 20 2008, 01:23 PM

Thanks for the link doomx, after looking through the video and testing and inspecting my N85. I have a wobble on the top (screen) part and the rest of the areas none. Even tried what the link said (in closed mode and try pressing the lower right part as well as in multimedia mode) all do not exhibit any wobble.

In closed part, I have a slight wobble on the top part but its a really really slight wobble, I think 1mm or even less and its not so bad until can make a click-clack sound. It wobbled very slightly but doesn't make any sound. It is soo minor and makes me think this is normal for a sliding phone. A slide mechanism must have a slight free-play otherwise, the sliding would not be smooth. Mine's pretty normal.

I think N85 may have units manufactured in different region of the world and they may churn out different quality handsets. Mine although is AP, is the same model as the Malaysian Ori Zitron / Avaxx set which I think do not possess such issues.

So far, been using it for a week and I am a heavy user (calls a lot, watch videos a lot and MP3 average). I sync a lot, my 8Gb microSD is almost full. So first week owning it, I sure meddle with it a lot. So far, the phone never hangs and never restart on me even while synching and charging.

Only thing worth complaining is Security code always ask when phone turned on even simcard is not changed. And bluetooth handsfree keeps disconnecting and reconnecting which can be eliminated when u switch your handsfree off and on back.

I think both the above problem can be addressed via firmware so no worries. Overall, I am satisfied with the N85.

i felt using the USB data cable to charge takes a bit more time to get to full...forgot how long though...

using the adaptor (3 pin) to charge took mine around 2 hours i think.

hi guys congrats guys on the N85...i m sure u will find lots of fun using n exploring it

for opera mini 4.2 beta...nope i haven't tried...u might wanna try on the opera mobile 8.65 (if i remember correctly). I m using it fine

hahaha welcome to the eat grass club...i joined this club much earlier though

wow thanks for the link...now only i know there's this menu transition effects....i've been missing this for like 1 week + of owning it duh.

on the wifi thing, did u set your SSID to be hidden? If it is then you would have this prob. To solve it, have your wifi router set to show SSID, use your N85 to detect it and connect to it. After successful connect, then only set your SSID in your router to hide. Then set your N85 Network Status to "Hidden". To do that, go go Tools > Settings > Connection > Destinations > Internet > Edit your access point > Under Network Status : Change to Hidden. This should solve it. It did for mine.

1 : Nope, i don't think there's any setting that can set that.
2 : The S60 is a multi task system and yes, there's the hassle of having the apps not quitting when u press the Red (End Call) button. There's no setting to overcome this as well. I also find it a problem everytime u wanna press lots of BACK button till u come to EXIT button. That is after u go deep in to certain menu.

I bought an AP set. All are original including the battery. Although i read AP sets do not come with Nokia Maps of something like that, my AP unit comes with it. The voice navigation only has 90 days trial though. But the ORI set also has till 90 days as well. U can have a full version replacing it after expiring though...but need to google lar. Personally I find the Nokia Maps not very useful due to the not updated map (one time it tells me to go thru a one way street in the opposite direction - although the road used to be 2 way, it ain't now). So I am using Garmin Mobile XT which has a much updated map. Gotta google for those info though.

My AP set's firmware and region code is exactly the same as malaysian Ori unit, firmware update would not be a problem. So when buyin AP sets, choose wisely.

Yeah, me thinks the sound quality (off the speaker) is not so good too. I heard its great on N96 though. Might wanna consider that model.

hrm...refer my reply above...

All accs, battery, microSD card, charger, cable all ori for mine. All java apps can install. For my case, the diff btwn Ori n AP is only on the Price & Warranty.

No prob bro....mine's CSL

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Added on November 23, 2008, 5:21 pmyeah, my AP set will be able to update fine as its exactly the same as the Zitron / Avaxx set. For a confirmed answer, will have to wait till a firmware update is available.

My CSL AP set have 12 months warranty on LCD, 15 months warranty everything else.

It'll be Infrastructure mode....funny though, mine works just fine...try other browser??

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Added on November 23, 2008, 5:45 pmReporting 1st incident of N85 freeze.

I've switched on Menu Transition and for the first time, when a call comes in, the ringer did not ring but the screen shows Incoming Call but then I press the green (receive call button), the phone did not respond. All other buttons pressed also did not get the phone to respond. End up, the phone auto reboot with the NOKIA word and white background then goes into main standby screen.

I go into Call logs, the call did not register as missed or incoming call.

Overall with the menu transition switched on, the interface seems lagged. Will try it for a few days, if it gives prob, will switch off.

This post has been edited by yupio: Nov 23 2008, 05:45 PM

Refer this post from bro Qool : http://thenokiablog.com/2008/10/23/3-setti...er-fp2-devices/

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Added on November 24, 2008, 8:41 amcan't help on where to buy in KL though...but if u wanna buy CSL's AP set, I think Lowyat plaza does have its office. Hav a look at their website on the location.

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Added on November 24, 2008, 8:45 amlol Garmin is not free la....but there r ways to get them working for free...do a google coz i think i m not allowed to expose any further in this forum.

This post has been edited by yupio: Nov 24 2008, 08:45 AM

lol bro, the N85 works fine without the Kaspersky....no need to bogged down the memory n performance by having the AV ma.