For Darkness, yeah, it is.
But how often do someone really takes pic in darkness.
Maybe useful for taping on bed video

Other than that, N82 has no other pros compared to N85 except its price tag.
I still think N85 has some room for improvement.

The most important one is to make NAVIWHEEL available for all types of menu. Secondly, please allow me to use the keypad when browsing whenever the phone was rotated. Lastly, please reduce the price again

How do you crack it?
I tot currently its uncrackable.

So thats wobbly?
Yeah, it behaves like that.
I dont find it a problem though. Its good that even when you press the bottom part, it still doesnt scratch against the bottom part. If you tap the bottom of the plastic (below d pad) can see it moves a little. Its a design problem. I dont think you can make it a solid piece when all the keys are in 4 different direction and if they had used a solid piece, it would break after prolong usage.

You should upgrade the warranty la.
I bought from her also.
But pay a bit more for the 2yrs warranty with 1yr warranty on LCD.

She got install Garmin for you? Maybe cos I didnt ask so I din get it.
But Nokia Map is enough for me liao.

1. This I can help you. Its the same for every phone. Instead of making the shortcut point to messaging, change it to New Message. This way after you send the msg, back to front page. No all people know this trick.

I really dont know got such difference. Im not using GarminXT also. I also din ask Renee about it. But my nokia map is definately working. Just install Nokia map and download all the map you want la. I already loaded South Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia and HK map.

I dont find the sound pecah. In fact better than my sis N78. Just a bit softer than N78.

I think your router wireless performance is poor or you got many interference. I have no problem at all. When using my old router, the range is not very good and speed also ok ok nia. But since I change my router to Extreme N, range is good and transfer speed is also 2~3x faster.

Honestly after using it for more than a month, still no hang or whatsoever.

Im not sure whether its the accelerometer being not sensitive enough or what. But to make sure it rotate each time, hold the phone straight up sure will rotate.

Nokia map can be downloaded one la.
In fact you dont even need all the maps lor.
Just need Malaysia and Singapore map enough lor.
If need, just load from Nokia Map Loader la.

Please refer to previous replies regarding phone package and also usability, reliability and so on. If you cant find your answer, then only you post here.

If you feel lazy to do so, you can search the Handphone Trading section and see for yourself what kind of package that comes with the phone. Besides the question is a little naive, given that most if not all the phone that has a memory slot comes with a memory card nowadays. If you were asking for the size of it, it would still be forgivable.

Im saying this because there has been enough replies on the package that are being offered here. Thats why we have the search function in thread nowadays. Sorry if I sounded rude but lets keep it purely for user to post their review/problem encounter on the phone.


I would suggest you keep your mouth shut when you got nothing to offer here.

Basically, why I suggest using the search function is thread is to repeat repeatative answer for the same question. Some of us who bought from Renee/CyNetwork already listed out what are the thing that are included, warranty and how well the phone is serving us. Its just that some people like you got NBTD and wanna start flame war out of nothing. This is a phone support forum where users share how the phone is doing. If you want to ask about phone package, can search in Garage Sales or Handphone/PDA Price & Dealer guide.

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Added on November 28, 2008, 12:49 pmBTW, how do you feel about the performance of the GPS?
I feel its really weird cos it doesnt seem to connect to the GPS at all. Now if I turn GPS off and then turning it back on, viola, its connected liao and locking position in less than 30sec. Software error or firmware error? Lastime when I didnt turn off the Assisted GPS, no such problem. Im still figuring how to get the guide going. I already downloaded the voice file but there doesnt seem to be any guide in the favorite menu.

Two different phone, what is there to compare.
You get what you paid for really.
Personally, I prefer N85 because its new, looks good and smaller than most N series.
Besides each N series introduction seem to introduce better speed + enhancements.

Hope they fix:-

1. Accelerometer not being sensitive enough when the phone isnt straight up. (ie. no rotation when phone lying on table)
2. Camera - make it less prefered to use the high ISO when taking picture without flash
3. Enable keypad when using browser in horizontal mode (rotated)
4. Improve GPS locking without turning it off and on again

This post has been edited by andrekua: Nov 28 2008, 12:49 PM

What Im saying is that the Nokia Map works.
THe problem only exist with the GPS locking.
When I start up the phone, the GPS doesnt seem to be able to get signal from the sattelite.
Now if I turn off GPS and then on again, it lock on almost immediately. This is why I said it was strange.

Well, I have tested N95 at Nokia centre but I didnt really compare the speaker quality before.
Usually things like this come second to my mind whenever I buy a new phone.
Sorry cant offer any opinion about this.

When I buy a new phone, usually I will evaluate the new aspect of the phone like OLED, Software, Firmware, Speed, Usability and the annoyance of it. I rarely compare speaker quality because IMO, LOUD != QUALITY. If wanna compare quality, plug in a good headphone and hear it yourself. N95 is a very matured platform thus stability and speed isnt a problem at all. I just dont like N95 due to the key being small at the front panel. Keypad however is very good. But still I love the LOCK button in N85 which remove the annoyance of having to unlock manually when using it with one hand.

I just figured out why my GPS isnt locking.

I recheck my setting for GPS positioning. Turns out I had Assisted GPS ticked and Integrated GPS tick. Now I went on and untick Assisted GPS and now whenever I on GPS, it will lock on the sattelite pretty fast. Almost instantly if Im near the window in my house or on open space.

GPS is free isnt it?
Anyway, it does show on my bill that I was charge about RM2 for GPRS. I think its for the assisted GPS.

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Added on December 5, 2008, 12:06 amChanged my product code so SG.
Now running NSU and updating... ALL THE BEST!!

This post has been edited by andrekua: Dec 5 2008, 12:06 AM

Working great... and got chinese, malay and english default language after changing the product code... no need go Telstra service center anymore...
YAY!!!

I can say the phone is now a bit speedier with the menu and animation transition also alot smoother especially when auto rotate. Nokia Map is locking almost instantly with only Intergrated GPS. Best of all is the accelerometer now a bit more sensitive to the movement than before. Will check out more tomorrow to find out anymore pros.

Somehow NSU was downloading quite fast at 130kB/s before crawling to 20kB/s for the last 30MB. Still managed to get it done though. Tomorrow I will inspect the camera.

This post has been edited by andrekua: Dec 5 2008, 01:34 AM

Oh, I wonder since when that Nokia introduce software flash that didnt reset the whole phone. My contact list and sms'es still intact after the flash. GOOD STUFFS!!!

WARNING...

IMAGE QUALITY SHOTS:-



I do feel that AUTO mode still sucks. Plenty of noise. Most of the picture here I shot using my own setting except one which was shot using AUTO mode and still can see alot of noise. Picture 9 is using manual mode, while 10 is using auto mode.

This post has been edited by andrekua: Dec 5 2008, 06:41 PM

How did you get it bricked???

Alexdino,

Do you really know how to fix it?
If not, I think safer to send to shop and reflash lor. I think only cost Rm50 issit?

The product code is at the back of the phone. I cant remember whether its at the back of the phone battery or phone body after you removed the battery.

It start with 0561xxx

Could it be your location that affect the receiver?
Honestly, even though I did say that mine could connect almost instant, but there are times when it wouldnt even connect for up to 10mins. But still I didnt face the disconnection issue like you did.