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University Useful information for prospective law students, A basic guide to become a lawyer
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alsree786
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 May 16 2009, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ May 16 2009, 06:50 PM) just wanna ask question out of my curiosity how much roughly is the pay /salary/allowance for chambering student,practice lawyer and lawyer ? well, as xziled says it depends. The legal field, somewhat like with doctors, very much depends on the individual itself. Lawyers are specifically identified, so the better you are, the better you're reputation, the more clients you will have, the higher your fees and the more contracts you can get. Chambering students are like lil pets, so you get an allowance which is not much. I dunno how much, you gotta check it out yourself. But then on, you gotta show what've you got. As with any other field, if u got lubangs, then the faster you can develop and show what you can do. A friend of mine works directly under a very prominent local lawyer who anyone following news on politics would know who, so that person gets to learn very quickly and meets alot of high profile personnel. As a lawyer, there are no limits. There's no real corporate body to climb. You get paid depending on how good you are and depending on what reputation your have. Build it up from day one, and you shud be earn well enough. I know qualified lawyers who earn about RM6k to RM8k at 40 years old. I also know lawyers who earn RM25k to RM30k at 45 years old. I also know a lawyer who earns millions a year. |
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compunoob46
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May 17 2009, 07:42 PM
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Getting Started
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sad... did my public law pretty badly.. the 5 main topics oni come out in 1 question compared to previous yrs 3 questions.. haiz..
hopefully still can pass...
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alsree786
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May 17 2009, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(compunoob46 @ May 17 2009, 07:42 PM) sad... did my public law pretty badly.. the 5 main topics oni come out in 1 question compared to previous yrs 3 questions.. haiz.. hopefully still can pass... what are the 5 main topics in your view? |
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edennature
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May 17 2009, 08:26 PM
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i heard from my friend told me that BAC offers UOL LLB (2+1)??is it true..
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alsree786
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May 17 2009, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(edennature @ May 17 2009, 08:26 PM) i heard from my friend told me that BAC offers UOL LLB (2+1)??is it true.. either you need to wax your ears or your friend needs to learn how to use the internet...seriously. i have been answering so many questions on LYN that people can answer on their own with a quick google search...if u ask me for opinions on this and that then yea...seriously dude...UOL EXT LLB IS AN EXTERNAL LLB PROGRAMME...IT'S CLEARLY STAED IN THE PREVIOUS POSTS SO GO READ! edited due to error noted by schizo This post has been edited by alsree786: May 18 2009, 10:03 PM |
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edennature
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May 17 2009, 08:48 PM
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sorry..i quite flurned...is it true that Uol llb student learns lesser than twinning student?
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compunoob46
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May 17 2009, 08:50 PM
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Getting Started
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separation of powers, royal prerogative, constitutional conventions, parliamentary sovereignty n rule of law.. though i prepare EU n parliamentary privileges as backup but nt as well as those 5 above..  This post has been edited by compunoob46: May 17 2009, 08:53 PM |
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alsree786
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May 17 2009, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(edennature @ May 17 2009, 08:48 PM) sorry..i quite flurned...is it true that Uol llb student learns lesser than twinning student? lesser probably in terms of practical hands on learning then yea...but in terms of subject matter or syllabus, we're more rigorously examined due to it being external exams marked by top professors ranging from unis of queen m, ucl, oxford, bristol etc QUOTE(compunoob46 @ May 17 2009, 08:50 PM) separation of powers, royal prerogative, constitutional conventions, parliamentary sovereignty n rule of law.. though i prepare EU n parliamentary privileges as backup but nt as well as those 5 above.. oh ok. for me if u ask me to name top 5 i would say ROL, PS, SOP, HRA and EU. out of this minimum 2 questions. Dun worry la, inter only, all u need to do is pass to get thru...hope u did 4 questions tho. if u did then im sure you'll be okay |
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edennature
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May 17 2009, 09:13 PM
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is there any foundation subject in uol,like legal and writting skill?thanks.
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compunoob46
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May 17 2009, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(alsree786 @ May 17 2009, 09:06 PM) oh ok. for me if u ask me to name top 5 i would say ROL, PS, SOP, HRA and EU. out of this minimum 2 questions. Dun worry la, inter only, all u need to do is pass to get thru...hope u did 4 questions tho. if u did then im sure you'll be okay i did 4... but... haiz.. guess i'll find out hw i did in sept.. This post has been edited by compunoob46: May 17 2009, 09:23 PM |
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alsree786
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May 17 2009, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(compunoob46 @ May 17 2009, 09:23 PM) i did 4... but... haiz.. guess i'll find out hw i did in sept.. yeah, we all will for uol llb. I'm still quite upset my timetable had three papers in a row...was damn tough. Alot of ppl complaining having two llb papers in a row, they shud try and face three. If four, i would have just jumped off a cliff... was very difficult to do well...hope all future uol llb students dun face such a crappy timetable. This post has been edited by alsree786: May 17 2009, 09:57 PM |
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compunoob46
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May 18 2009, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(alsree786 @ May 17 2009, 09:55 PM) yeah, we all will for uol llb. I'm still quite upset my timetable had three papers in a row...was damn tough. Alot of ppl complaining having two llb papers in a row, they shud try and face three. If four, i would have just jumped off a cliff... was very difficult to do well...hope all future uol llb students dun face such a crappy timetable. wth... 3 in a row is like skinnin u alive le... well, i cant imagine 4 in a row.. 1 thing good bout it is tat u get to finish ur exam in 4 days..  well, i wish when i enter part 1 the timetable wont be so crappy.. all the best anyway..  |
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alsree786
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May 18 2009, 06:56 PM
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QUOTE(compunoob46 @ May 18 2009, 06:12 PM) wth... 3 in a row is like skinnin u alive le... well, i cant imagine 4 in a row.. 1 thing good bout it is tat u get to finish ur exam in 4 days.. well, i wish when i enter part 1 the timetable wont be so crappy.. all the best anyway.. it's not about finishing early man...it's about doing well! i wish i had my friend's timetable. even though it finishes on the 4th of june...more time to study and do well! |
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silverfoxes
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May 18 2009, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(compunoob46 @ May 18 2009, 06:12 PM) wth... 3 in a row is like skinnin u alive le... well, i cant imagine 4 in a row.. 1 thing good bout it is tat u get to finish ur exam in 4 days.. well, i wish when i enter part 1 the timetable wont be so crappy.. all the best anyway.. wooo...tmw common lar...shit 12 hours to go keke wat question u did for public??? i did the HOL,HOC,Election and also Constitution tmw keongkan ade...i didnt read my common yet..lolZ~! |
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senga_c13
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May 18 2009, 09:21 PM
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New Member
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hey there.. anyone going to mmu this june? i have just got my offer letter
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Xziled
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May 19 2009, 04:27 AM
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alsree, ur next paper is? company?
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silverfoxes
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May 19 2009, 06:56 AM
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his one should be common law like me
2 hours time...omg!!!!!!
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alsree786
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May 19 2009, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(Xziled @ May 19 2009, 04:27 AM) alsree, ur next paper is? company? yes thats rite. this friday. and then it's three months of agony waiting for results... QUOTE(silverfoxes @ May 19 2009, 06:56 AM) his one should be common law like me 2 hours time...omg!!!!!! you're probably at the exam hall now, but anyway, sending u a good luck and to all those taking common law. |
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silverfoxes
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May 19 2009, 01:05 PM
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apasai u company one -.-"
just done my common...wuhoo~!!!! left 1 paper to go
toughest for me...contract
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TSschizophrenic
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May 19 2009, 02:23 PM
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Updates to page 1 of this thread» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
Updated: I would like to bring everyone's attention to the Bar Professional Training Course that is due to replace the Bar Vocational Course. The revised course is expected to start in 2010. The passing mark will be increased by 5% from 60% to 65%. There will no longer be 3 attempts for the failed module. There will only be 1 attempt.
The most significant of all would be the Aptitude Test that is required before being eligible to enrol for the Bar Professional Training Course.
The implementation of the entrance examination and the new course (with new syllabus) is in line with Derek Woods QC's recommendation in 2008.
Please contact the Bar Standards Board for further information.
Bar Standards Board
289-293 High Holborn
London
WC1V 7HZ
DX: 240 LDE
Tel: 020 7611 1444
Fax: 020 7831 9217
8.3 List of Universities and Qualifications recognised in Malaysia
Country Institutions and Qualifications
Malaysia
1. Universiti Malaya Bachelor of Laws (LL.B)
2. Qualifying Board CLP
3 Institut Teknologi MARA ADIL
4 International Islamic University Bachelor of Laws (LL.B)
5 Universiti Kebangsaan Bachelor of Laws (LL.B)
*6 University Utara Malaysia Bachelor of Laws (LL.B)
*7 Multimedia University Bachelor of Laws (LL.B)
*UPDATED : Eligibility to proceed with pupillage without any additional qualification
Universiti Utara Malaysia
"Government Gazette P. U. (B)119 dated 16 April 2009"
Multimedia University
Possibly being announced under the same Government Gazette above.
What is Advocacy?
Advocacy is the means by which a barrister(or an advocate) puts their client’s case to the court, and may be both written and oral. It is a specialist skill, the quality and excellence of which distinguishes the Bar from other providers of legal services (It is a fused profession in Malaysia. However, the skill as an advocate in Malaysia is not exercised by all practising lawyers. Do note that providers of legal services does not necessarily mean practising lawyers.). It is in the interests of the public, the court and the profession that barristers(or advocates) present their cases to the highest possible standards.
Oral advocacy is primarily a performance skill. It requires the advocate to address the court persuasively and concisely, presenting their cases in a manner which is clear, well organised and efficient.
Key advocacy skills include case analysis, use of skeleton arguments, oral submissions, examinations-in-chief and cross-examination, pleas in mitigation and legal submissions.
Source (with appropriate modification): Advocacy Training Council
Please visit the main page for links to the sources. This post has been edited by schizophrenic: May 19 2009, 03:08 PM
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