This is a difficult question. An important question is your budget.

Let say you can advice me on with budget and without budget basis. Thanks.

Then the next question is your grades. How well did you do for your pre-u?

Hello, I am planning to study law course for a long time. I've been doing research for some time but still wondering whether my decision is correct. I like reading books and I like English very much. But whenever I said I want to study law, my friends would tell me I am not fast thinking enough to become lawyer. What exactly are the characteristics a lawyer should have? Thank you so much for your help!

Assuming that all things are perfect, ie you have money and 4A* in your A levels, then obviously Oxbridge is the choice. The fallback would be the London unis.

But whether you graduate from Oxford or Thames Valley University, Msian employers will pay you a flat measly RM3k per month. So you may need at least 10 years to recoup the cost. I'm not exaggerating. Trying doing a simple calculation.

However, assuming that you do well at Oxbridge, you are internationally competitive and need not stay in Msia.

For the majority of us, who have grades (or average grades) but no money, then an alternative option would be the UK transfer or twinning programmes. The downside is that many private institutions where you spend your first two years at are shortchanging the students (in my view, at least). By the time the students transfer to UK in their third year, enough damage has been in terms of their ability to think independently and critically.

Alternatively, you may want to apply to the better local universities. Despite what I said earlier, they are definitely better than the private institutions. At least the lecturers do some research (let us not comment on the quality). But you need to have good grades and even that does not guarantee you a place. The downside is that the student will have no overseas experience, which I think is valuable.

Then there is the most economic option, the UOL external LLB. It suffers from all the drawbacks of the abovementioned options. Specifically, as said earlier, I have an issue with the private institutions that provide the courses.

However, the success of an individual, while strongly affected by the institution he or she attends, is largely dependent on his/her ability and attitude. I know people who have done well despite taking the less advantageous options.

I think understanding is more important than speed. The law is, unfortunately, not always easy to understand.

Try to convert this into simple English:

Keyes v School District No 1, 413 US 189, 211 (1973)
Brennan J: "This is not to say, however, that the prima facie case may not be met by evidence supporting a finding that a lesse degree of segregated schooling in the core city would not have resulted even if the board had not acted as it did".



This post has been edited by academiclawyer: Apr 16 2013, 10:43 PM

TLDR version - No case as the evidence does not backs the finding that even if the board did not act the way it did.

Summary writings by US supreme court and English court are a beauty to read.

I have to agree with your statement above.

And regarding the option of LL.B, there's pretty much no options for local people except for private institution offering a twinning or full external program.

It's pretty difficult to get into the Oxbridge/London schools with Malaysian's qualifications.

Best pathway would be enrolling in the UoL external paper for private candidate for now, no?

Thanks guys for your feedbacks and advice. I have also heard of MMU ? Cheers.

MMU 4 year program, no need take CLP after that.

Problem is, if you want to go overseas, I think you can forget it..

It's not recognized anywhere else except BolehLand since your syllabus consist of Malaysian Laws mostly instead of English law if I am not mistaken.

My advise, go learn English Laws and do UoL external program. It's cheap and if you are hardworking, top students could be transferred to Inn's College in London to finish the program, all paid for.

Side note -

Just checked the fees of law in a top US Law school. Man, it's at least 40k USD per year. That's 120k minimum for a JD.

It's more expensive than a medical degree locally

Thanks for your feedback as I need also to find out whether it is still viable to practice laws in M'sia ? Judging from the situation.

What do you want to practice in Malaysia? Lawyers are not high reimbursed in Malaysia and the judicial system, well. I rather reserve my person opinion on that.

Having thought of specialisation yet but guess litigation is a must for a start. What do you think ?

I can't really say what's best for everyone.

Litigation's a good start, but in Malaysia, I doubt you'll get much exposure.

Problem is, even with a uol degree, chances of overseas employment is 0.001%. So if you are confined to Msia, MMU is good for it allows you to skip CLP.

3 years of JD + 1 year of bar + 4 years of living cost + the risk of unemployment.

Guys, I have recently applied for Bachelor of Jurisprudence by UM which is the cheapest offer next to the full time course LLB by UM.

If you are looking for the cheapest route, BOJ could be the answer.

What's your thoughts about BOJ?

Btw, can you guys confirm whether these 2 news are related? One of them is in chinese only, you have to use google translate, sorry.

通过马大法律考试难圆律师梦　校外生恫言示威诉讼
Group of UM law students in limbo

Better just do UOL external la.

Can you explain a little bit more of this ? Thanks.