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post Apr 22 2012, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(GeorgewLee66 @ Apr 22 2012, 01:55 PM)
I couldn't really find it. Can you quote it here?
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Cant find it online either. But i have the list with me.

1. University of Birmingham
2. University of Bristol
3. University of Cambridge
4. Uni. of East Anglia
5. Uni of Essex
6. Uni of Exeter
7. Uni of Hertfordshire
8. Uni of Hull
9. Uni of Leeds
10. Uni of Leicester
11. University of Liverpool
12. King's College London
13. Queen Mary, UoL
14. SOAS
15. UCL
16. Uni of Manchester
17. Uni of Northumbria
18. Uni of Nottingham
19. Nottingham Trent Uni
20. Oxford Brookes Uni
21. Uni of Oxford
22. Queen's University Belfast
23. Uni of Reading
24. Uni of Sheffied
25. Uni of Southampton
26. Aberyswyth Uni
27. Cardiff Uni
28. Uni of Warwick
29. University of West of England, Bristol
30. LSE
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post Apr 23 2012, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(GeorgewLee66 @ Apr 23 2012, 02:12 AM)
Thanks a lot! By the way is this list from the statute or?
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Its the press release from Legal Profession Qualifying Board which given by my college.
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post Apr 25 2012, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(schizophrenic @ Apr 24 2012, 06:32 AM)
United Kingdom

Full Time Degrees

Aberystwyth (University College of Wales) - LLB - Law
Anglia Polytechnic University - LLB - Law (Modular)
University of Central England in Birmingham - LLB - Law (including language options)
Birmingham University - LLB - Law
Bournemouth University - LLB - Business Law (Sandwich)
University of the West of England in Bristol - LLB - Law
Bristol University - LLB - Law
Brunel University (University of West London) - LLB - Law (including Sandwich)
Buckingham University - LLB - Law (2 year duration)
Cambridge University - BA - Law Tripos
Cardiff (University of Wales) - LLB - Law
Coventry University - LLB - Business Law
De Montfort University - LLB - Law
University of Derby - LLB - Law
Dundee University - LLB - Law (must have taken English Law options)
Durham University - LLB - Law
East Anglia University - LLB - Law
Essex University - LLB - Law
Exeter University - LLB - Law
University of Glamorgan - LLB - Law
University of Hertfordshire - LLB - Law/Law(Accelerated Programme 2 years duration)
University of Huddersfield - LLB - Law/Business Law
Hull University - LLB - Law
Kent University (Canterbury) - LLB - Law
Kingston University - LLB - Law
University of Central Lancashire - LLB - Law
Lancaster University - LLB - Law
Leeds Metropolitan University - LLB - Law (Modular)
Leeds University - LLB - Law
Leicester University - LLB - Law
Liverpool John Moores University - LLB - Law
Liverpool University - LLB - Law

University of London

London School of Economics & Political Science - LLB - Law
King's College - LLB - Law
School of Oriental & African Studies - LLB - Law
Queen Mary & Westfield College - LLB - Law
University College - LLB - Law

Other Universities in London

City University - LLB - Business Law
University of East London - LLB - Law
University of Greenwich - LLB - Law
London Guildhall University - LLB - Law/Business Law
Middlesex University - LLB - Law
University of North London - LLB - Law
South Bank University - LLB - Law
Thames Valley University - LLB - Law
University of Westminster - LLB - Law

(Continuation of Universities)

Manchester Metropolitan University - LLB - Law
Manchester University - LLB - Law
Newcastle upon Tyne University - LLB - Law
University of Northumbria at Newcastle - LLB - Law
Nottingham Trent University - LLB - Law/Law (Sandwich)
Nottingham University - LLB - Law
Oxford Brookes University - LLB - Law
Oxford University - BA - Jurisprudence
Queen's University Belfast - LLB - Law (must have taken English Land Law option)
Reading University - LLB - Law
Sheffield Hallam University - LLB - Law
Sheffield University - LLB - Law
Southampton University - LLB - Law
Staffordshire University - LLB - Law
Sussex University - LLB - Law
University of Teeside - LLB - Law
Warwick University - LLB - Law
University of Wolverhampton - LLB - Law

External Degrees

University of London - LLB - Law

Source: Part II of the New Guidelines on Qualifications and Requirements to Qualify to Sit for the Malaysian Certificate in Legal Practice (CLP) Examination (Guidelines) in Appendix S of the Legal Profession Act 1976 Statute Book.

Solicitor

Solicitor of the Supreme Court of Judicature of England

Source: PU (B) 633/81

Australia

University of Adelaide
Australian National University
Macquaire University
Monash University
University of Melbourne
University of New South Wales
University of Queensland
University of Sydney
University of Tasmania
University of Western Australia
University of Technology, Sydney
Bond University
Murdoch University
Queensland University of Technology

New Zealand

The University of Auckland
The University of Canterbury
The University of Otago
Victoria University of Wellington
University of Waikato

Source: PU (B) 14/2001

Ireland

Barrister-at-Law

Barrister-at-Law of the Honourable Society of King's Inn, Dublin, Eire

Source: PU (B) 341/82
Please take note that the information above is just a reference and it may not be updated. It is always prudent to verify the information with the Qualifying Board directly. I shall not be liable for any loss whether economic or otherwise resulting directly or indirectly from the information above.
Note: I've amended the first page of this thread to reflect my latest post. Cheers!
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The latest Guideline is here:

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post May 1 2012, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(pauliet @ Apr 30 2012, 12:22 PM)
Has anyone done both A Level Law and the UOL programme here? Are they similar or there's a huge difference between the two in terms of exam style?
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In term of exams style, i wouldnt say huge difference in term of how the questions being asked. Rather, when it comes to marking, its gonna be a big difference because you're required to show more logical and critical arguments.
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QUOTE(hamtaro98 @ May 2 2012, 03:33 PM)
Well, looks like i will just going to be a paralegal in Singapore, is it okay to do this ?
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I have just recently read about an article about singapore ministry of laws is considering to recognise UoL's LLB. However i dont have much positive anticipation over it. Singpore does not even recognise HKU's LLB, you can imagine why Hertforshire isnt listed? University of Malaya isnt in the list as well.

There is a way to get admitted into Singapore bar actually, as a foreign lawyer. You'll need to become an advocate and solicitor of High Court of Malaya and have at least two years PQE.

Getting called to the s'pre bar(part 1)
Getting called to the s'pore bar part 2

Well, you could still opt to in house position in Singapore.

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QUOTE(M@Y @ May 5 2012, 03:17 PM)
Not direct, but they do help us apply to the university that we desire, though must also apply UCAS as well. But i must say direct application is much easier.
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UCAS application isnt that complicated actually.
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QUOTE(aodhwulfe @ May 6 2012, 11:49 AM)
Higher costs mate, d direct unis are mostly cheaper with the exception of Hull. Still... any advice any one?
solstice818: Thanks
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Cardiff's living cost is manageable, it really depends on how you budget yourself. Aber, Hertfordshire have higher accommodation fees.

Btw, all the very best ! smile.gif

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QUOTE(aodhwulfe @ May 8 2012, 06:42 AM)
Hey, thanks for the wish. But what about quality? Say among the 4 direct applications unis? All I've heard so far are their marketing pitches. Any pros and cons about the quality? Anyone?
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Quality wise, Cardiff is one of the universities in Russel Group. I personally think it is average and nothing special. However, in the eyes of employers, it still makes a difference as to which university is more reputable. Try considering Reading and Liverpool. I do heard about Hertforshire where they have some kind of Malaysian style whereby notes and suggested answers are given. Amongst the 4, i think Hull is the better one in reputation.

Whichever university that you're heading, strive harder to score a second upper/1st. Aside from studying for examinations, make sure you accommodate yourself with good research skills and not merely relying on your lectures source. Always try to go beyond that.

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ May 9 2012, 10:14 AM)
hello all.y nephew is planning to do the university of london LLB external degree soon. i wish to ask, is there any where that i can view the sample degree award or cert? i hope some friends will help here.

thanks in advance. thanks
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A blogger actually posted his certificate , i dont know him personally but here is the link.
Degree certificate

Hope it helps. smile.gif No worries, University of London degree is prestigious enough.


Added on May 9, 2012, 6:58 pm
QUOTE(aodhwulfe @ May 9 2012, 05:06 AM)
Ahh well it depends on results too. I will try but not easy to get to either Cardiff or Livpool. Yup, I've heard that about Hertfordshire, also heard that it's easy to score well there. Damn, what a dilemma
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If you got your 60% average, do consider Reading, Cardiff, Liverpool, and Hull.

Indeed a dilemma, if you're outstanding, you'll score really well ultimately no matter where you go.
There's a guy who graduated from Oxford Brookes with a 1st and eventually got his master in Cambridge. Just quite recently, i also heard about a girl got a very outstanding 1st from Aberyswyth and is now fully financed to pursue her BPTC in the UK. My point is very simple, if you score well, ample opportunities will be opened for you.

I do know some of them who scored really well in their second year and transferred to Aberyswyth. Aberyswyth's system is such that it'll consider your second year's marks. Hence, it helps in your final year. Due to the credit hours of each subject carries in Aberyswyth, you're required to take more subjects to fulfill your 120 credit hours. Nonetheless, it will touch only about 10-20% of the normal fully covered syllabus. There are some subjects where you'll be given questions prior to the examinations.

Whilst Cardiff doesnt, your degree classification will solely depending on final year performance. I think, a fair choice would be Liverpool that it'll take 30% of your second year's result in considering your degree classification.

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QUOTE(razven.94 @ May 10 2012, 01:33 PM)
hello all, I've currently finished my first semester of A Levels in Segi College Sarawak. I plan to enter the UOL LLB program in SEGi as well. I heard that the my batch will take the exams in June 2013 and then the intake for the LLB will be in August 2013 if everything goes well. My question is does the first year of LLB starts in that August 2013 or Jan 2014 ?

Btw, can anyone recommend any good websites that has A quality llb essays ?? tq
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Why Segi? I have heard a lot of bad reviews about it. Yes, if you were to enroll Sept 2012 intake, your exams would be held on May/June 2013.
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 10 2012, 03:21 PM)
LLM from where? Do you intend to go into legal practice?


Added on May 10, 2012, 11:22 pm

Didn't even know Segi offers that.
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Yes, Segi Kuching at Sarawak does. SEGI LAW
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 10 2012, 06:42 PM)
There's even a 3-year Diploma in law. No idea what that does ...
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Hahaha, well, it is something equivalent to UK transfer program. You'll have the option to transfer to University of Northumbria.


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QUOTE(razven.94 @ May 11 2012, 01:19 AM)
Segi is ok but sometimes i suspect it's the students who are rather lazy resulting in a big drop in results. But anyways, thanks for answering my questions. I have one more question here. Is it better to do all my 3 years of llb in kuching and then take CLP in KL or use credit transfer in the last year of my LLB to get into UOL in UK and go for English Bar ? Or maybe there's a better option ? Btw, i'm not really rich so the idea of going to UK is quite a headache ... possible to get scholarship ?
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Hmm, just so you know, you can still opt for BPTC with UOL degree without transferring to the UK.

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QUOTE(Khyra_abigale @ May 11 2012, 06:40 AM)
Thanks for replying. LLM from UOL as well smile.gif Well, I'm really not into legal practice, perhaps for a few years for the sake of experience and then I'll opt for corporate. It's just that City (formerly Inns of court) seems like a good opportunity and a good school, and i'm so happy they offered me a place but i feel bad spending so much there. sad.gif
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Speaking of UoL's LLM, i just received an offer from Queen Mary, University of London as well. I share the same concerns($$). Hmmm, if you're still intending to take LLM in the nearer future. Opt for CLP then ! smile.gif


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QUOTE(hushpuppiesnike @ May 11 2012, 03:18 PM)
you mean you study LLB for 8 years? so long? i know it's quite confusing..but i'm gonna give a shot still.  biggrin.gif
I met one guy that studied himself for UOL external programme. and got a first class in LLB.
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Indeed, there are many successful alumni who graduated with flying colours as a private candidate in UoL. Out of the many, few of them actually taken private tuition( One of them received King's scholarship and eventually graduated with a first, another also successfully got a first in UoL). Since you're willing to give it a shot, i have to say UoL has very comprehensive study guides. Hence, it is not difficult in passing the exams.

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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 11 2012, 04:05 PM)
No, I've been studying the law for 8 years, and I will continue to do that for the next 80 years, provided that I live till then.
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Hmmm, Professor 'academic lawyer'......


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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 11 2012, 04:27 PM)
Any other offers?
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I applied only to QMUL because i think it is the only university that doesn't require application fees? What do you think about QMUL? I heard it's pretty famous in commercial & corporate. However, it is not highly ranked internationally.

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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 11 2012, 04:43 PM)
I know it's good for IP, and probably commercial law. For LLM, reputation is everything. So you should try to get the best one that you can. Should try UCL and LSE.
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Actually, i'm thinking of Bristol, Nottingham, Manchester(outside London); KCL and LSE(London). Anyhow, it is very likely that i'll only be taking LLM few years later. As of now, the major concern is CLP. sad.gif
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 11 2012, 04:56 PM)
No don't apply to so many. Just aim for a few. The university should be much more reputable than the one you got your LLB from. You want to 'upgrade'. I'm fine with Bristol and Notts. Both are good. But probably not Manchester, which has about the same reputation as Cardiff.

Other sexy choices include Durham and Edinburg.
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Hmmmm, really? THE Ranking In according to this ranking, Manchester seems to have a higher ranking than Bristol and Durham? True, upgrade is necessary. In fact i think QMUL is just about the same par with Cardiff. Of course, its law school is much more established than Cardiff Law School.


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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 11 2012, 04:56 PM)
No don't apply to so many. Just aim for a few. The university should be much more reputable than the one you got your LLB from. You want to 'upgrade'. I'm fine with Bristol and Notts. Both are good. But probably not Manchester, which has about the same reputation as Cardiff.

Other sexy choices include Durham and Edinburg.


Added on May 12, 2012, 1:04 am

Btw I know how rubbish CLP is. That's the worse thing I've undertaken.
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I have to concur. I think the proposed Common Bar Examination casts more practical value than this currently CLP. Anyhow, you passed it, importantly.

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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 11 2012, 05:14 PM)
No you don't use the world ranking. In the case of law schools, you usually go by reputation. I'll put Cardiff on par with Manchester but behind QMUL, which has the UOL factor. But I'll put both Notts and Bristol ahead of QMUL.

I should also say something about 'upgrading'. Say an LLB from Bristol is more prestigious than an LLB from Cardiff. If the Cardiff LLB holder gets an LLM from Bristol, it doesn't put them on par. To surpass the Bristol LLB holder, the Cardiff LLB holder should get his LLM from a university more prestigious than Bristol, say UCL. So that's why I said that the LLM conferring university that you choose should be very much more prestigious than your LLB conferring university.

All are just my opinion though so take it with a pinch of salt.


Added on May 12, 2012, 1:17 am

I have recently attended a conference on the CBC. The amount of hostility by the public unis .... my god. So it will never happen unless the authorities decide to bulldoze its way.
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Applying to the university is very much a thorny process. This is especially when i need to ask for references. Thanks for your opinion. Would most probably consider on Bristol or Notthingham, lower living cost. Hmmm....your profile picture seems familiar.

So you're currently a lecturer?
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 11 2012, 05:36 PM)
Much welcome.

Yes it is. If you apply to a competitive one, you should put lots of time and effort into it. And make sure your references are 'academic' references, not 'character' refrences.

Between Bristol and Notts I will go for Bristol. Less common in Malaysia.

First time using this profile pic, haha. Yes, I guess my username indicates that. But I prefer to be called a scholar.
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Yes, Bristol is less common in Malaysia.

Your username indicates your profession being a scholar and i would say your profile pic also indicates where you graduated from.That would have to be either Oxford or Cambridge. Or i could be wrong. smile.gif
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 11 2012, 05:48 PM)
Haha, not a very common coat of arm.
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Yes, i visited only few places in the UK. This includes Bath, Bristol, London, Oxford and Cambridge. By elimination, i decided to throw a wild guess.
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QUOTE(academiclawyer @ May 11 2012, 06:11 PM)
Nice places. Haven't been to Cardiff, which I heard is quite nice.
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Cardiff is a nice place to live, cheap and peaceful. Dont quite like its law building though. Actually, Oxford's buildings are nicer. Hahaha

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