how can u say the entire MAN U team is overated when they win the UEFA CHampions League and the BPL?

i'm joking dude. ever heard the word "sarcasm"?

yeah they are overated by many Asian,many ppl believe MU is the great/best team in the world but MU is not in top 5 succesfull club in Europe (according to UEFA Champions League record) and even they still behind Liverpool in EPL title

just go to China and ask 100 ppl which club is the best in the world and i bet 90 of them answer MU

and the other 10 are liars

well, i may put walcott and king
walcott is good but yet to reach his potential.. his football philosophy is always kick and run.. if he put more in his game, then he may become next legend.. he is still young anyway, more room to improve

hmm..you sounded like a frustrated non MU fan, anyways they were the best around THIS season.

theo walcott = aaron lennon

This post has been edited by sirnanzy: Jun 5 2008, 02:05 PM

so? that's what peoples claim, not the club. only 1 title behind liverpool. 10 titles in EPL history while liverpool 0. in europe yeah, we are still behind many top clubs n i hope the recent UCL success is the stepping stone for us to challenge and win more titles. every club has it time, even ur Barca rite now not that great compare to 2 years back. i dun see people claim Barca overrated. when MU won the UCL, many said they are overrated. "MU win coz juventus not there, Messi's injured, other team under perform." and many more. it's not like we deserved to win. what about porto 2004? we could have won against them in 2nd round, (i said 2nd round, not the title) but scholes is ruled offside for his 2nd goal. but if we can defend until last minute, not conceded the porto's last minute goal, maybe we can go further. it's in the past, so no need to argue. just to point out something.

bro, isnt this the common theme in football, club A wins fans from club B will say its a fluke and so on, club B wins fans from club A would do the same as well

yeah, i know but what i meant is, when MU win, alot of people claim we dun deserve it. when Arse(BPL), Che(BPL), Pool(UCL) win it, suddenly they deserve it. i dun care at all as long as we win titles.

stop the OT here:

let's continue about overrated english player whatever.

lol, i know one more; frikkin nigel reo coker

One last thing; I think you'll find that a lot of people are saying our win in Istanbul was lucky and that AC Milan deserved to win. Don't make it out as though the whole world is against you. Ask anyone to see if I'm right about what I said.

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Added on June 5, 2008, 2:57 pmDave Nugent deserves a shout. Have no idea how he made the national team. Shows you how short of targetmen England is.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Jun 5 2008, 02:57 PM

A number pf players mentioned above should really be on that list. Bent for sure, just slipped my mind I guess

my vote goes to A.cole..

d.bent n nugent oso

what about m.carrick?

nope. at that time, liverpool really deserved to win. why? coz they fought hard and scored 3 goals in 2nd half. that also i support liverpool to win as EPL fans. well, i guess, a lot of people love AC Milan that time. hahaha... ok la duke. back to topic.

darrent bent actually overpriced, not overrated. he played well for crappy charlton team. score alot of goals but his price tag, GBP16.5m, less playing time @ spurs makes him overrated. so, overpriced lead to overrated. huhuhu...

england really lack of targetman. after shearer, no one really shine. emile heskey not that good. peter crouch? he has height but if he as tough as Jan Koller or Zigic maybe can be better.

carrick? yeah, he is overpriced but not overrated. i dun see people praise him like god or something. well, at least for me. other people got other opinion based on what they saw.

This post has been edited by jackdante22: Jun 5 2008, 03:57 PM

I thought about Carrick but seeing as he can't make the England squad he is actually quite underrated, a much better player than Barry in my opinion.

Andrew Johnson

Are you f***ing kidding me? Michael Carrick overrated?

Do you even know how to watch football?

Ashley Cole might be hated, but he's not entirely overrated. As a Man United fan, I can tell you that 9 times out of 10 Cristiano Ronaldo CANNOT dribble past Ashley Cole. That's why during the UCL final, they played Ronaldo against Essien knowing that it's tough to get past Ashley Cole. And it paid off quite well in the first half until Ronaldo failed to track Essien which led to the goal by Lampard.

But seriously...Michael Carrick overrated? You've got to be kidding me.

Just because Carrick doesn't do flashy dribbling moves, or he doesn't score very often doesn't mean he's overrated. If you have any footballing sense at all, you will realise just how important Carrick is to Manchester United.

Do you ever notice how Carrick always tracks back to help his defenders? Do you ever notice how he always wins the ball in midfield? Have you ever seen how brilliant his passing can be?

I doubt you do, people with no footballing sense like you talk as if you're a football expert. Have you seen his stellar display versus Columbia in the 2006 World Cup? Many England pundits are at lost as to why Carrick is not being selected.

Open up your eyes man, and don't say stupid things.

great season with Crystal Palace but cannot continue his form with Everton. same to James Beattie.

ashley cole not overrated, he is a good left back actually.

if u guys ever played CM 01/02, Titus Bramble kinda overrated in that game, Micheal Chopra also.

England has too many good Central Midfielder but in other area... u know la.

This post has been edited by jackdante22: Jun 5 2008, 04:27 PM

liverpool was once overrated, that was when they're the king of europe.
then it was notthingham forest. and chelsea under jose mourinho...is it?
in between chelsea, there is mu
how about the over-performing arsenal with less result to show?

conclusion, any english team that had conquered the bpl and europe over and over (minus chelsea)
are overrated, huh??
btw, at the rate mu is going, it's only a matter of time before they catch up with the rest.

of the list above, ashley cole is overrated.
but bent and barry should make it to the list.

chill bro, im asking. Cant u see the question mark? why u so agry ...maybe u got pheochromocytoma or ur menses is coming

This post has been edited by vutsi: Jun 5 2008, 04:27 PM

So are Barcelona overrated then judging from the fact that their record in Europe is piss poor as well?

Man Utd this season are the best team in Europe. There's no two ways about it. But before any MU fan gets too cocky about it let me say that things can change pretty quickly in football.