Nani yup Sporting Lisbon and Anderson for Porto...
Saints also good enough producing player what...

Theo Walcott was touted as one of the up and coming youngsters of England since he was 16 years old. You know who else was touted like this as well? Wayne Rooney.

The fact that Theo Walcott only comes in as a substitute (and he rarely does so to begin with) is a clear indication that he has been overrated.

When Wayne Rooney was his age, he was already scoring goals and tormenting defenders for fun. He moved to one of the biggest clubs in the world, and was straight away slotted into a starting spot.

Nobody is denying Theo Walcott's contribution, but just think about it. One of England's future stars unable to be a consistent starter at the age of 19? Clearly something is wrong. Yes he is good, but simply not good enough, yet. Occasional flashes of brilliance such as the Champions League match against Liverpool is not enough, he needs to produce stellar displays consistently.

Nani and Anderson were playing in Sporting Lisbon and Porto regularly. Your point being?

Theo Walcott was playing for Southampton's FIRST TEAM in the Championship before moving to Arsenal, not just academy.

still remember rooney debut goal against arsenal (2002)

This post has been edited by PrinceOfPersia: Jun 5 2008, 10:27 PM

dude, you asked me to name someone who's 19 so there u have it, Micah Richards, and comparing them is impossible, altho Ricahrds had the better success in terms of appearance for club and country, and the problem with Walcott is that he was overhyped coming into the league so he had to face constant pressure and each game he had to prove he's worthy of the tag that was put onto him, which hampered his progression as a player IMO.

This post has been edited by sirnanzy: Jun 5 2008, 10:45 PM

Nani 26(16 starts) games played, 3 goals scored

Theo 25(11 starts) games played, 4 goals scored

Anderson 24(16 starts) games played, no goals scored

This is only PL. There is not much of a difference there is there, not to mention Walcott is the youngest as well.

I think you're missing the point here. Perhaps we should compare total minutes played then?

What about the quality of the time they spent on the pitch? There is a big difference. If there is a way to measure it, the quality/time of Nani and Anderson far outweighs Theo Walcott's.

These statistics do not even paint a picture that is close enough to reality.

Fix for u

This post has been edited by driftmeister: Jun 5 2008, 10:57 PM

With Ronaldo enjoying his 300k per week in sunny Spain, one thing is for sure. More Nani for MU next season

My point is the experience they had at their previous clubs.
Ok, Southampton a coca-cola championship club and Premier Clubs in Portugal. See the difference in terms of experience there?

You know the reason for the overrated thingy? It's because Arsenal bought him over and people starts dubbbing him as the next Thierry Henry. How long it take Rooney to gel into the team?
For your info 07/08 is only his second season in the PREMIER LEAGUE.
Speaking about consistency, every time Walcott was played he did performed decently? (Although not much first team appearance)

Lol are u idiot or wat?
u juz told ppl not to compare 2 diff position....seems u r repeating the idiotness...
how many season nani n anderson play in EPL?
how many season walcott play in EPL?
use ur brain...but sometimes is hard to ask u to use ur brain....
anyway i found out that u r very update wif man united news....
we wud welcome u if u wanna jump ship....

england is overrated...
its no coincidence that they haven't smelt glory for so many years

Are you sure you're not on the wrong thread? This is about overrated players in England, not the whole England team overrated.

Michael Owen

I wasn't comparing ability but premiership experience, besides what difference does it make if Walcott has played premiership football for a few seasons already, he is still the youngest of the trio and cost about half what United paid for Nani or Anderson. The next time you decide to run your mouth, please read through the pages before otherwise you end up looking stupid. I don't even know why I bother replying to you as you clearly have no intelligence to reason in a civilized manner.

As for Desvaro, there is one big difference between Rooney and Walcott. The fee paid for the players, if Arsenal paid anywhere near what United paid for Rooney than of course you could say he is well behind. However, the fact of the matter is Walcott is progressing very well and within a season or two he will be a very useful player for both Arsenal and England.

that is irrelevant....what is ur thread title?
n what is ur poll?
n why are u bring in non english player to compare?
N stop spamming the thread wif all those irrelevant thread.


This post has been edited by leongtat: Jun 6 2008, 11:58 AM

In case you haven't noticed it is not me comparing those players. As I said before look through the thread before making stupid wasteful comments.

what you can do is to change your thread title to prevent further misunderstandings.

This post has been edited by sirnanzy: Jun 6 2008, 12:29 PM

Voted for Ashley Cole..

It's a matter of opinion so let's see what his argument is. I'd like to start of by saying that most English players are overpriced, or overrated, kinda of the same thing really? After all to be overrated, one has to have the media build them up which in turn leads to inflation in his value.

Carragher
Cost us nothing. Plays in a number of positions much like O'Shea does for you with the exception that he is a constant in the side and comes up against the world's best strikers. Does the press talk a lot of Carragher, no? Did he cost a lot? No. How much does he earn? Hence, if anything, I think he is underrated. Who rates him aside from Liverpool fans who get to watch him play every game?

Terry
Can anyone tell me how much Chelsea paid for him, if anything at all? I can't remember. Aside from the fact I think he pesters referees too much, I cannot deny how integral he is to the Chelsea defence. He pops up to score vital goals during set pieces and his positioning is excellent. I don't think he is overrated, depending on how much he costs. How much does he earn anyway? I think we have to consider these questions before coming to a conclusion.

Ferdinand
He cost a bomb for a defender even back then. Is he good? Of course. The question is whether or not you could have got another defender who is equally adept at a lower price? How much does he earn?

Again I wish to state that I think many English players are overrated and I do think you have to weight cost - price&wages.

Ferdinand and JT are overrated players, not to say that they aren't good but we can base on the wage. JC always consistent but still only liverpool and some other fans rate him. Overpaid is about the same as overrated.