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post Apr 8 2020, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 8 2020, 02:27 PM)
Nothing beat cash dividend in hand.

Yes, on ex-date, price will readjust downwards, but if the company business is intact, and future give the same dividend, it is likelyhood it may rise back up to RM5 or even higher if economy situation become normal or grow again.

Those hold Maybank or any other high dividend stocks for 10-12 years, all their capital have been recouped back as dividend in the form of cash.
You bought RM8, after 12 years or so, all the RM8 capital is recouped as cash, now whatever share price is your gain.
Even now drop back to Rm0.00 due to crisis, no loss is made.

Also, those RM8.00 cash recouped enable one to invest in whatever stocks or instrument that can diversify the portfolio

vs
xyz stock that bought at RM8.00 that never give dividend, but due to crisis, share price goes to RM0.00, all capital RM8.00 loss.

Company has billion or trillion cash, minority shareholders won't have a taste on it without dividend.
Company can also give millions of directors fee and lucrative compensation package to management while give zero dividend to minority shareholders.

Public listed company is about sharing profit made, which is the reason of minority want to buy public listed shares.
And dividend is the form of profit sharing.

Buying for dividend is long term investing strategy, it is not for short term view that about buying before ex-date or after ex-date.
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the bolded part is exactly what's in my thought, MI can't access to the funds.

cash is king, cash in your pocket is really yours. cash on any paper may still subject to the smallest possibility that it may turn out to be against your favour.
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post Apr 10 2020, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 9 2020, 09:45 PM)
Same here. Plan to hold. Basically for retirement one, hopefully dividend enough sustain lifestyle one day lol
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one month buy one lot, 20 years later also you will be a rich dude with a lot of shares and when dividend payment comes brows.gif
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post Aug 28 2020, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(donhay @ Aug 28 2020, 02:37 PM)
q for another batch 7.41. (the $$ from gloves)

Will keep for at least a year, hopefully everything recover in 2021
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i think it's gonna take longer for the banking sector to recover.....
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post Sep 8 2020, 11:05 AM

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i bought since it was 9.xx ish..... lol.... will buy more if it drop further.
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post Sep 9 2020, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(hc7840 @ Sep 9 2020, 10:37 AM)
Kopitiam got thread say bnm might cut rate again. GG
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Yes, this month we will see another round of OPR cut, that's why suspect the share price might go a little deeper......
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post Sep 22 2020, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(-YOPPIE- @ Sep 21 2020, 09:05 PM)
Is now a good time to enter Maybank?

Current stock price looks tempting.
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like some forumer rightly pointed out.

the effect of the moratorium has not been taken in.

moratorium will end this month and we may see a rise in NPL in the next couple of months which i think maybe by december, we may see some heavier impact to the bank's earnings which will be announced only in Feb 2021.

I would think the price may hover around this level for a while.

if you are tempted to buy, maybe you can buy a little and keep more cash position and buy more when if it drops further.
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post Oct 12 2020, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 12 2020, 09:11 AM)
bankruptcy is very unlikely unless so major fuck ups especially those GLC banks
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very unlikely for the bank to go bankrupt 1 lah..........
unless suddenly whole economy down, no one can pay their debt lah. if not no chance la.
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post Oct 23 2020, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Oct 22 2020, 11:03 PM)
How many lots u guys holding?
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post Nov 3 2020, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Oct 25 2020, 12:26 AM)
Currently
Ambank has the lowest PE (without considering ROE)
BIMB has the lowest PE (with ROE similar to PBB and MBB of about 10%)
CIMB has the lowest PB (but high PE and low ROE - possibly due to ridiculously large amount of loan provision to act as buffer JUST IN CASE NPL spike too high)

If you are not a fan of smaller banks, only want KLCI banks. These stocks that have single digit PE based on CY2021 projected earnings:
1. CIMB
2. RHB
3. HLFG (although not really a bank)
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when it comes to bank valuation, shouldn't we put more weightage onto PB ratio instead?
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post Nov 9 2020, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(alworks @ Nov 9 2020, 08:00 AM)
Mind to share your view of CIMB bro?
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sorry for the irrelevant post.

what happen to your siggy? what's the story? got any dispute thread that you have a link to share?
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post Dec 1 2020, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Dec 1 2020, 01:53 PM)
anyone know how to register for Maybank's DRP (dividend reinvestment plan) ?

visited the website but don't seem to have any info for registering or opting in

https://www.maybank.com/en/investor-relatio...tment-plan.page?
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they are getting the relevant approvals.
what is there to open or register?

you will get a form when they despatch the notice to you, believed that your max entitlement has already been pre-determined for you, or you can fill the alternative number you want (subject to not more than your max entitlement), maybe some would want some odd number to turn their odd lot into a board lot and receive balance in cash.

after you fill the form, buy a bankers' cheque or something equivalent for the amount of nominal stamp duty, hand it over to the share reg, they will do the rest.

then sit back and wait for your shares to be credited to your CDS account on the pre-determined day.
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post Dec 2 2020, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Dec 1 2020, 05:20 PM)
Is it an optional for the DRP? Best to get it or get cash dividend?

My brokerage account still have no news about it yet. I am using Rakuten.
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Dec 1 2020, 05:27 PM)
Hahaha, wow unbelievable. Congrats to u too!
For nominee account? Cant just inform and appoint re-miser to do it?
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https://www.bursamalaysia.com/market_inform...?ann_id=3109067
you all should read the announcement.

in this announcement dated 27 Nov 2020, it mentioned:

(i) BNM has approved the the increase in share capital pursuant to the 19th DRP.

(ii) the application of listing of new quotation, or what we normally define as Additional Listing Application "ALA") has been submitted to Bursa for approval, for this process, typically it takes about 2 weeks to 4 weeks to approve. or some cases it could be faster depending on many situation, one of it being that Bursa is just within walking distance to MBB, so it should be quick. LOL.

So right now what we have to do is just to wait for their announcement.

But to answer your question rocketm which is better?
Based on historical issuance (the 18 issuances prior to this 19th issuance), the shares issued under this DRP were priced at almost or near 10% discount, let's just take it at 10% discount for illustration (normally around 9.x% discount and while this 10% discount being the max discount pursuant to the Main Market Listing Requirement). so technically speaking, you are using your cash dividend to buy new MBB shares at 10% discount, do you think it is worth it or not?

But the only downside is that, this DRP will normally leave you with odd lots which make you harder to sell your odd lot in the odd lot market (inconsistent volume with hefty discount usually).

If you wanna go into nitty gritty aka count die grass:

1. You don't need to pay any brokerage fee to buy the new MBB shares, you will only need to buy the nominal stamp duty or equivalent.
2. if you buy from the market, it is typically without the 10% discount and you will have to pay your normal brokerage fee.

So with the above, you will have to decide whether you want to have more discounted mbb shares? or you want cash entirely?

To answer your 2nd question, your broker account - Rakuten still no news about it? what news do you want? please read the announcement i posted the link above and then wait for MBB's next announcement, these kind of things take a month or so to complete, it was only announced last week. Also, I think your Rakuten account is direct CDS account right? If yes, then your Rakuten will not be involved at all and they would not recommend you what to do (except for your friend friend dealer or remisier), no additional fee incur as compared to nominee account described below. You will receive the form from MBB's share registrar and deal with them directly (please read my earlier post).

HereToLearn, for nominee account, just instruct your dealer/remisier, they will do it for you at a fee.

This post has been edited by tehoice: Dec 2 2020, 09:56 AM
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post Dec 9 2020, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Dec 9 2020, 12:13 AM)
Guys, if I own 200 shares, the DRP will be RM 0.135 * 200
= RM 27
RM 27/7.68 = 3.5 shares

They will round down or up ?
Wow then if we opt this we will have odd lots leh..doesn't sound good right
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truncated. or round down in another words. no way they can round up, they won't have enough shares to go around.

yes, many will end with odd lots, when you sell it, likely that you will sell your board lots and leaving only your odd lots sitting inside, but this won't cost much anyway. you still receive div, etc in the long run.

but let's not forget, you get these shares at a discount compared to picking it up from the market, why not?
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post Dec 9 2020, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Dec 9 2020, 08:33 AM)
Well, if round down, then the shares received will be priced at RM 9 / share. (27/3). Too high.

So means if u own less Maybank shares not worth to go for DRP I guess.
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nooooo......... you're wrong.........

i attached a very brief calculation for you below.

You will receive 3 MBB shares and RM3.96 in cash.....

your total received is still the same at RM27.

but if you compare your total market value will then be:

3 MBB shares at market rate now 8.29 per piece = 24.87

(plus): cash div = RM3.96

Your market value arising from the DRP = RM28.83

which is more than your cash dividend of RM27 should you elect to receive in cash.


Disclaimer: the calculation/illustration above strictly is to address the wrong perception and understanding here in this thread. The above is correct based on corporate finance principle and disregarded all other ancillary/transaction cost which you may or may not incur to exercise your right in electing either cash or shares with cash.




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post Dec 9 2020, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(HolyAssasin4444 @ Dec 9 2020, 09:41 AM)
Sorry, I think the calculations in my initial post was too vague.

What I meant is that you will receive 3 shares at 7.68/share = 23.04 total
This means that if you opt for DRP, the 27 dividend is instead = receive 3 shares, AND 27-23.04 = 3.96 in cash

Think of DRP like this, the cash dividend received is partially used to buy the shares, any remaining will be given back to you in cash

An example: Let's say I own 1k shares.
Dividend I'm entitled to = 1000*0.135 = RM135
Since DRP is at 7.68/share, I decide to use DRP for 10 shares. That means from the RM135 dividend, RM76.8 will be used to get 10 extra shares.
What happens then to the remaining cash? I'll receive the remaining RM58.2 as cash dividend like usual
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Yes, this is correct. if you are a long/longer term investor, you will bound to have several rounds of DRP exercise, then you can make your odd lot into board lot of 100s as well.
in this case, you won't end up with odd lot for too long.

i take a long term view on mbb and such DRP exercise serves as a good opportunity for investor to collect new MBB shares at discount with very minimal cost (RM10 nominal stamp duty) vs if you buy from the market also more than RM10 for your transaction cost.

What can go wrong to the largest company in the country? if MBB falls, means your whole Malaysian economy also has collapsed.
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QUOTE(HolyAssasin4444 @ Dec 9 2020, 09:49 AM)
I can see how many small investors may want to opt out of the DRP if the discount is lesser than the RM10 for stamp duty. Which is why I recommend to put your DRP stocks in a nominee account. No charges and the broker help settle everything for you
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hahaha, nominee account confirm no charges for them to help you manage your DRP exercise?
if there's no additional cost, then it is good~! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 9 2020, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Dec 9 2020, 10:00 AM)
Hi bro, thanks for your clarification. I understand now.

However it is still not worth as will required to pay RM10 stamp duty which leaves the dividend amount to be only RM 17 if proceed with DRP

Thanks alot
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okay, i get where you are coming from, if i own only 200 shares, i would also likely opt for all cash option. but if you wanna build wealth in the lonngggg run, buying more MBB shares and get more DRP shares is also potentially another good option.

i have my long term view on mbb as below. I would suggest/recommend to opt for DRP if the amount (after considering all options) make sense to you.

QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 9 2020, 10:02 AM)
Yes, this is correct. if you are a long/longer term investor, you will bound to have several rounds of DRP exercise, then you can make your odd lot into board lot of 100s as well.
in this case, you won't end up with odd lot for too long.

i take a long term view on mbb and such DRP exercise serves as a good opportunity for investor to collect new MBB shares at discount with very minimal cost (RM10 nominal stamp duty) vs if you buy from the market also more than RM10 for your transaction cost.

What can go wrong to the largest company in the country? if MBB falls, means your whole Malaysian economy also has collapsed.
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Dec 9 2020, 09:57 AM)
nooooo......... you're wrong.........

i attached a very brief calculation for you below.

You will receive 3 MBB shares and RM3.96 in cash.....

your total received is still the same at RM27.

but if you compare your total market value will then be:

3 MBB shares at market rate now 8.29 per piece = 24.87

(plus): cash div = RM3.96

Your market value arising from the DRP = RM28.83

which is more than your cash dividend of RM27 should you elect to receive in cash.
Disclaimer: the calculation/illustration above strictly is to address the wrong perception and understanding here in this thread. The above is correct based on corporate finance principle and disregarded all other ancillary/transaction cost which you may or may not incur to exercise your right in electing either cash or shares with cash.
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QUOTE(HumbleBF @ Dec 9 2020, 10:00 AM)
Hi bro, thanks for your clarification. I understand now.

However it is still not worth as will required to pay RM10 stamp duty which leaves the dividend amount to be only RM 17 if proceed with DRP

Thanks alot
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Also note my disclaimer above, what i want to address is the wrong/incorrect perception.

the final decision is yours.
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QUOTE(HolyAssasin4444 @ Dec 9 2020, 10:15 AM)
Not sure about other brokers, but I'm using Rakuten for nominee (not a plug, they have their own issues with server). Up till now I haven't get charged any fees including stamp duty for DRP and issues.
Really recommend you to look further into it! Can save alot of money over the long run. DRP is as easy as entering the number of shares on the client webpage and that's all
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i think there will be some charges, even processing your dividends, they will charge you something.

so i believe that there will be fees charge to all kind of corporate exercise.
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post Dec 9 2020, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(HolyAssasin4444 @ Dec 9 2020, 12:41 PM)
There really is none, for dividends, drp, right and bonus issues. For the past few years with nominee account I haven't been paying any corporate exercise fees, which is why I initially created one to put my stocks with regular drps. Can go read their fees structure if you doubt it
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niceeeee..... lemme open one with them and only accumulate these stocks for super long term one.........

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