Airasia and MAS ...is suspended...
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Aug 8 2011, 08:30 AM
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Airasia and MAS ...is suspended...
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Aug 10 2011, 10:42 AM
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Aug 10 2011, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(lch78 @ Aug 10 2011, 11:00 AM) Investors that are not agree to the "tie down" sell off their shares... After knowing the out come I read it quite different.Clearly, this "tie down" is widely perceived to be "saving MAS ass". I think a multi million RM plan need a long planning say a year otr a bit more. One year ago Airasia was 1.50 and MAS was 2.10. If I plan for a share swap what should I do other that getting the polical masters aggreement. I have to position mtself in the best way. Increase my share price and reduced the other share price. we can speculate how this could be done... so one year later Airasia was 3.95 and MAS was only 1.60 I think if that is the plan, It was well done. Now let the market decide the price again. |
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Aug 10 2011, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(javelin819 @ Aug 10 2011, 12:42 PM) KUALA LUMPUR: OSK Research rates all its aviation counters as BUYs with AirAsia as its top pick (FV: RM4.34) and MAS as a trading BUY (FV: RM2.45). Sorry... I think this is a sponsored research.“We reaffirm our overweight stance on the Malaysian aviation play,” it said on Wednesday, Aug 10. On Tuesday, AirAsia and MAS announced a comprehensive collaboration framework and shares swap agreement (including the issuance of warrants) between its respective major shareholders; Tune Air and Khazanah. The shares swap and warrants issuance facilitates in aligning the interest of both the majority and common shareholders for the collaboration between the two carriers. “While synergistic benefits could be seen over the longer term on the collaboration framework; AirAsia and its feeder traffic, long haul sister carrier, AirAsia X are seen as winners of this collaboration over the immediate term. “The low cost carrier (LCC) benefits on immediate route accessibility, yield upside, and its dominance as Malaysia’s only LCC (as Firefly phases out of the LCC segment),” it said. Thinking again this have a bigger design... It had being done before and again now,,,, Removing any small grip that the AAB dynasty have from the national icon... |
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Aug 10 2011, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(PiggyAikz @ Aug 10 2011, 04:33 PM) Actually the share swap is between the major shareholders of MAS and Khazanah. For the minority shareholders there arent any effect at all besides maybe concerns that Tan Sri Tony now has to split his time managing two airlines instead of one. Not true at all:Just look at the changes in MAS The Chairman...New Board Member: 6 new BOD CEO: new Airasia : nochange yet If you couldn't see that you have to be half blind |
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Aug 10 2011, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(javelin819 @ Aug 10 2011, 05:25 PM) Well, Since AA is doing well , i believe they will stick to the orignal board members. Why fix something which is not broken. Sorry again I don't agree.....In other hand, It is a good thing that MAS had change their management team or else they are going nowhere. This will definitley bring up the confidence level of the investors. i believe this so called " partnership" might do well in long term for both companies. my 2 cents Khazanah belong to the ra'ayat and Tune Air is not. |
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Aug 10 2011, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 10 2011, 04:39 PM) The deal is not a merger. I just have one very simple question here:Just share swap between Airasia & MAS shareholder only. It doesn't affect business wise nor any dilution. Just there is another deal that free warrant will be issued. which free warrant you like to have. (2.5 Years) 1. MAS-WA conversion at 2.00 current price 1.72 2. AIRASIA -WA conversion at 4.99 current price at 3.54 If you say you wamt MAS-WA than khazanah had done a bad deal for us. This post has been edited by rosdi1: Aug 10 2011, 05:51 PM |
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Aug 10 2011, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 10 2011, 06:07 PM) If not ra'ayat who else ... politician?Added on August 10, 2011, 6:21 pm QUOTE(tineagle @ Aug 10 2011, 06:15 PM) I agree. Using rakyat's MONEY but not their opinion doesn't make Khazanah's voice part of the rakyat in any way. If you say and think that is not yours than it is notThis post has been edited by rosdi1: Aug 10 2011, 06:21 PM |
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Aug 10 2011, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Aug 10 2011, 04:57 PM) I think TF is doing a bit of national service by "sitting" in the MAS Board (whether contributing or not) and getting the strings to create more wealth for Air Asia. The tie-ups in Japan and the booming economy in Indonesia will boost Air Asia revenue and profitability tremendously and with the gomen lobbying for more landing rights for them. Giving a small part to Khazanah is a small thing taking into consideration the expected and potential returns over the longer term. Hahaha... National service?Dont think that his interest in Air Asia is that low; you will never know their actual shareholding held under foreign nominees. I think he was/is part and parcel of the long plan and design to the very end..... ===================================================================== I think AIRASIA wil slide to 2.50 in the short term. This post has been edited by rosdi1: Aug 10 2011, 08:15 PM |
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Aug 11 2011, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(Oracles99 @ Aug 10 2011, 10:57 PM) The government-linked funds have perhaps pushed up AA to faciliate the deal. They have all the details but the public does not. Most airline shares all the world over are not performing. MAS had always being suckers...U mean the government is trying to make TF richer, I think not. They are just trying the last effort to save MAS. If u can make yourself a millionaire, will you make others a millionaire also? Who is trying to save MAS from whom or what? look at these facts. one year ago: MAS was 2.10 and AIRASIA was 1.50 MAS was push down to as low as 1.35 AIRASIA was pushed up to as high as 4.20 Fundamentally there iwere not much changes in both airlines in that time frame. With this price movement TUNE AIR is able to get MAS from Khazanah at 70% cheaper. If they stop supporting AIRASIA now the price will drop to below 2.00 ( I think its fair value) and MAS will slowly move back to above 2.00 ( its fair value) If this happen who are the suckers.... Added on August 11, 2011, 12:34 am QUOTE(escargo75 @ Aug 10 2011, 11:04 PM) Really cannot understand all this sandiwara. Why AA want to buy into MAS since it always making lost unless you want to telan this company, right? But MAS will exist as long as BN still rule at all cost. When TR bought MAS at 8.50 and make it lossing money he can sell back to the govement at the same price.So it you can make it not lossing money you are now better and can sell it higher back to the goverment??? This post has been edited by rosdi1: Aug 11 2011, 12:34 AM |
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Aug 11 2011, 12:28 PM
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Aug 13 2011, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(duckaton @ Aug 11 2011, 07:43 PM) Yes for now....I think when the 2Q result announced later this month the sliding will be faster. The fact that the swap need to be done before the 2 Q results of both MAS and Airasia is interesting or they don't need the help of this good/bad news anyway. but we have to remember that AA share can be push fro 1.50 to 4.20 in a year and it can be done again if need be. I think the major players will be happy to see AA slide to say 2.50 for now. |
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Aug 24 2011, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(lostintransition @ Aug 16 2011, 09:09 PM) Hi all, I look like your wish got answered today.Waiting for AA shares to slide so that can go in and buy ..... But now, cannot liaw since it increased so much.... Felt abit weird that given the current environment, AA shares can still go up at a fast rate (not a slow gradual increase) ..... it is all part of an elaborate window dressing? I expect the slide down will continue for some time more toward 3.00 and then 2.50 |
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Aug 26 2011, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(XxAC3xX @ Aug 25 2011, 03:03 AM) i believe AA is a good investment now. this could be the good reason for it: If you think it is very good try and buy it now and see,,,,http://research.cimb.com/index.php?ch=5013...c=39828&bb=file As for me I will not touch anything above 3.00...infact I looking for 2.50. |
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Aug 26 2011, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(lostintransition @ Aug 26 2011, 01:11 PM) Hi - why do you think AirAsia will slide until RM2.50? And the price chart hereAlso, I would like to ask another question. Noticed in TheStar newspaper that there is a huge trading volume for AirAsia but then the price movement is quite small. Why is it so? Is it because there are huge selling offset by huge buying? Thanks in advance for the answer. I have the last 7 Q prices here: The performance is a far cry from the peak 3rd Q 2010 and sliding down. When the 3rd Q result was announced in Nov 2010 the price is just 2.50 The 200 DMA is just around 3.00 and the price will be initiallt attracted to that price before dropping further to around 2.50 Is this a fair view?? This post has been edited by rosdi1: Aug 26 2011, 04:48 PM |
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Sep 5 2011, 03:38 PM
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Look like it had lost whatever gain made on friday. Will EPF continue to help to support the price?
I am bearish on AIRASIA TP: 3.00 and slide to 2.50 This post has been edited by rosdi1: Sep 5 2011, 03:40 PM |
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Sep 20 2011, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Sep 5 2011, 03:38 PM) Look like it had lost whatever gain made on friday. Will EPF continue to help to support the price? I am bearish on AIRASIA TP: 3.00 and slide to 2.50 Added on September 20, 2011, 4:00 pm QUOTE(ronn77 @ Sep 20 2011, 03:36 PM) This shares is heading back to below RM3 soon. Those that goes in by thinking not to miss the boat this time must be crying now and believe they will need to hold this shares for a long long time. AIRASIA is not the only one moving south...PCHEM, MSM, SIME, TENAGA..... are also joining in... I think my earlier prediction (above) is coming true... This post has been edited by rosdi1: Sep 20 2011, 04:04 PM |
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Sep 21 2011, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(nspk @ Sep 20 2011, 09:06 PM) Joint Venture between related party is not very good.TMSB is a RM2 company. Will not give any value added This post has been edited by rosdi1: Sep 22 2011, 10:34 AM |
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Sep 22 2011, 10:36 AM
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AIRASIA had slide to below 3.00 now... bye bye 3.00 |
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Sep 23 2011, 09:18 AM
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AA hit 2.68 just now...
I think it is moving down faster than I had expected |
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