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post May 27 2008, 10:04 PM

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Guys i have a very annoying problem here.... i mixed Mr. Color's Super Black and Flat White at a 1:3 ratio... along with thinner and retarder... i mixed these in a large amount and keep them in a separate bottle.

When i want to use it for hand painting, i notice that when the paint dry, it look like " webs " !! Its like the thing didnt dry properly then leave webs or sumthing like that... no matter how many times i stir or shake the paint still dry into webs when i handpaint... need help ! Thnx !

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post May 28 2008, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(300078 @ May 27 2008, 10:55 PM)
not much experience with it....but most of the paint that i mixed together all will dried up easily even if u use those special container (MR Hobby one) to store them......guess u still have to mix them when u really want them!
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Errr its not that it dries up easily... arrghhh i dunno how to explain how it looks like ... lol... it just looks like " webs " ... and the painted surface isnt smooth... can feel the " webs " when u touch it.... SWT. Sorry but thats the best explanation i can give.... cry.gif cry.gif

I cant take pic too cuz its too fine to catch on my lousy cam... lol... thnx for the reply anyway. >.<
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post May 29 2008, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(edwardgsk @ May 28 2008, 05:08 PM)
if thers web appear on ur model after u AB, it means your paint is still too pekat and need to add somemore thinner to it...


Added on May 28, 2008, 10:08 pmhow many layers of top coat should i spray on my mg freedom so the paint won't chips off? i use AB one not direct from the can cause the nozzle really sucks... (i spray the top coat into the small cup on the air brush then i spray on my kit like spray paint like that... please note that it's kinda thin...)

besides, can recommend any sites for air compressor maintenance tips?


Added on May 28, 2008, 11:02 pmguys, is that possible to mix tamiya acrylic paint with mr hobby thinner or tamiya thinner mix with mr hobby lacquer paint? if cannot may i know what will happen?
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Err i handpaint, bro... i dont airbrush.. biggrin.gif Still got webs appear... hahaha.

Actually top coat 1 coat enuf d la... you cant make ur kit 100% chip -free.... its bound to chip if u like to play alot... i rarely see ppl double coat. Wont it be too thick ?


Tamiya dont have lacquer, btw... so u cant possibly mix Mr. Color Thinner with Tamiya's ENAMEL or ACRYLIC paints... the only lacquer tamiya has is spray cans....

Tamiya's acrylic just use water to thin it... same goes to mr hobby's acrylic ( flat cap )... You can use mr Hobby color thinner for both brands... since were talking about ACRYLIC paints here.

Mr. Hobby's Lacquer ( mohawk cap ) must thin with Mr. Color Thinner....

Tamiya's Enamel must thin with TAmiya Enamel Thinner, obviously lol...

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post May 30 2008, 01:27 PM

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Errm to clarify my previous post... im using the ORIGINAL names of the thinner...

MR. COLOR THINNER is used to thin lacquer paints.

EXAMPLE : http://www.xl-shop.com/xlshop/pages/produc...ctId=MRH-545817



MR. HOBBY COLOR THINNER is used to thin acrylics.

EXAMPLE : http://www.xl-shop.com/xlshop/pages/produc...uctId=HC-519495



Clear ? smile.gif Take note of the names.... tongue.gif



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post May 30 2008, 01:44 PM

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After the tindakbalas wat happened to the paint ? Cannot use liao ? Just curious. =P

I mix with tap water before leh... and it works fine for me lol. Maybe ur water contaminated or sumthing ?


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post Jun 17 2008, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Jun 17 2008, 06:16 PM)
i remember seeing a topic called Topcoat vs Tamiya Clear last few days, in the list of topics out in the LYN main page. But then can't find it ady.

There's another one, Mr Hobby Super Clear UV Cut. Do these clear paints have the same use/function as topcoat itself?

And also, anyone tried the selfmade topcoat solution in the pinned thread? smile.gif
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The self made topcoat ( using the Future Floor acrylic i presume ? Cant remember ) was tested AND approved by Vince... pro gundam modeller. biggrin.gif Theres no way it wont work... and u shuld take a look at his completed models pictures... beautiful stuff. I dont see why the topcoat wont work. blush.gif
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post Jul 27 2008, 07:35 PM

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Enamel lining is easy with large kits like 1/100 scale... but when it comes to 1/144... damn sweat lol. 1 small wipe with cotton bud, all the line gone lol... cuz the grooves for 1/144 kits are small... ( tiny a better word ? ) Hehe well just my opinion. smile.gif Usually i paint my model black to avoid any panel lining... cuz black still look good without lining. ( i just posted my kit over at the Showoff/Progress page.. do check it out. blush.gif )


Anyway, ive got a question... i dont really know how to use Mr. Mark Softer and mr mark setter eh... they dont seem to be doing any difference to my decals. Sumtimes when i apply mr mark SETTER to a spot before i put the waterslide decal, the decal just slide away eh... no adhesiveness AT ALL. cry.gif

Any ideas or tips on using them ? Mr Mark softer also rarely do anything good. =_= Decals still easy to peel after applying it and letting it dry...
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post Jul 30 2008, 05:09 PM

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May i suggest tamiya's Enamel Titanium Gold ? Currently available at hobbies corner... heres an example of my HG Nadleeh with bits of titanium gold all over :

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The shield has Titanium Gold on it... and u cant see the " grains " u usually get with other Metallic colors... very nice gold indeed.

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post Jul 31 2008, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jul 31 2008, 07:55 PM)
Guys, when trying to AB Mr Surfacer 1200, i get a fair amount of spiderwebbing doh.gif
Do i need to use Mr Leveller Thinner instead of the normal thinner or am i doing something wrong? Spray distance 15 cm psi 15.

Also, i get a little bit of spider webbing when painting on colours. Why is this? Paint mix off?
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Your paint is not thin enough... put more thinner/ levelling thinner ...

If still got web the put some Mr. Retarder mild into ur mixture. ( Sumtimes i use it, sumtimes i dont... lol )

Or just use Mr Leveling Thinner.... cuz the Leveling Thinner alredi has retarder mixed into it... no need the hassle of figuring out how much Retarder u have to put. smile.gif

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post Aug 4 2008, 10:45 PM

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Guys got a question... can i spray enamel paints onto Mr. Surfacer ? And can i spray Mr. Topcoat over onto enamel paints ?

will have any side effects ?
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post Aug 4 2008, 11:39 PM

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No i mean, lets say i already sprayed my kit with Mr Surfacer ... then can i spray enamel paints on the surfacer ?

And lets say i already spray my kit with enamel paint... can i use Mr Topcoat to coat it ?

Err thnx again lol.

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post Aug 4 2008, 11:58 PM

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Lol okok thnx biggrin.gif

Thot u misunderstood my question... hahaha. Cuz u said the thinner will melt the paint underneath if spray too close... Enamel thinner cannot melt lacquer paint eh. tongue.gif

Anyyway thnx alot... gonna prepare for bakuc 2008. rclxub.gif
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post Sep 8 2008, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(charmy @ Sep 8 2008, 03:09 PM)
To all Sifu, how to make those Mr.Metal color looks shine? coz i have handpaint using Mr.Metal color (Dark Iron) on my 1/100 Infinite Justice but after i try 2 buff it it still not shine de....how to make it like those real iron effect? hope sumone can helpĀ  me sad.gif
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Those Mr. Metal color isnt meant to be used for handpainting... handpaint d not nice wan lol. Why not u try mixing Mr. Color ( not mr Metal ) Silver and Super Black ? ( super black is basically black color that is VERY glossy ) The ratio u have to discover urself lo, since we dont know what kind of " dark " u want. biggrin.gif

Other than that.... u can just handpaint with Mr. Color Metal Black. Creating shine with hand paint is difficult eh... air brush is the best way out.
Once u paint d u might consider spraying with Mr. Topcoat Gloss.

Just my idea. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 29 2008, 11:57 AM

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Anyone willing to teach me how to use Tamiya's Compounds ? Ive heard that u use them to achieve a very glossy finish on model kits. ( like car models ) .... but i never knew how to use them.

And they have so many types of compounds... which one is the right one for polishing ? Thanks in advance. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 12 2008, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Nov 5 2008, 09:35 AM)
let's say if u wan certain parts do have gloss then u spray separately lo... if whole thing matt then just spray the whole thing(all attached together), y nid so much hassle rite?
think so.. sweat.gif
congratz to u then...
btw, it's Bought not brought... bought is buy of past tense, brought is bring of past tense
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Eh may i clarify sumthing here ? When u say " if u want gloss u spray separately " Does that mean if u want a part gloss i DONT use primer, or USE primer ? Sorry but i dont understand ur statement... tongue.gif Thnx in advance.
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post Nov 12 2008, 08:53 PM

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Ohhh swt sori i misread ur statement... i thot u meant primer... actually ure talking about Topcoat ... Sory sorry doh.gif
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post Nov 23 2008, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(steadyhia @ Nov 23 2008, 05:05 PM)
Thanks for your advising...Can you teach me a little more about the big compressor. So I can use the one in the factory without buying the mini compressor.
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Bro actually if u want a really cheap compressor u can go for this : Tamiya Basic Air Compressor

It comes with a single action air brush and is very cheap... i got mine for only RM 200... thats about the price of your Mastergrade kit... so why not get one of this instead ? smile.gif

Its amazing for its price, by the way... powered by a 7.2v ni-cad battery... lasts around 15 minutes continuously.... ( honestly i have NEVER turned it on longer than that... and as soon as i stop painting, i swtiched it off... )

Theres no pressure regulator or anything else... its basically just " fill the cup and spray, rinse and repeat "... great for airbrush newbies like me. smile.gif

It saves ur trouble of getting other airbrush parts... and its really light and portable.

U can check on ebay for this airbrush..... just my suggestion.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 25 2008, 08:00 PM

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Well i never had any problems with my el cheapo airbrush set.... never got any " uneven-ness " before... since its " single-action" u wont have much of a problem with a broken hand piece... cuz the mechanism inside is really simple lol. heres a link to pics of my work with this airbrush : My Nadleeh

Just my personal opinion. tongue.gif
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post Nov 26 2008, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Nov 26 2008, 12:01 PM)
true...no pain no gain......

wait 1 day i snap my "gundam cemetary" pic...all gunpla that i tortured...haha
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Lol i feel like doing that too. tongue.gif My first ruined kit was the MG Freedom expo ( clear ) version... i didnt know the retarded Mr Metal Aluminium can be rubbed off so easily with hand !! Heck, just a slight swipe and the paint comes off already... spoil the whole kit !! ( i didnt use any topcoat last time )


So im here to ask... those of you who paint using Mr. Metal Aluminium color.... The only way to make it " difficult to rub off " is by topcoating ? Cuz i tried using surfacer... also come off easily !!! Thanks in advance wink.gif
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Guys i have a problem now.... i sprayed my MG Mk-II's internal frame with Mr. Metal Aluminium color... I already did a coat of Mr Surfacer on it.... but the damn paint comes off sooooo easily ! I just touch nia the thing stick on my fingers d.

Dammit wasted so much of my time... how do i remove the paint ? Is there a way to cover it up so that it wont come off ? Oh and i tried topcoat and it didnt work...

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