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Model Kits Model Kits/Toys Painting, Building, Modding Thread, where the 'deja-vu are tradition in here

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post Aug 13 2008, 02:05 PM

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doh.gif use hardware shop de thinner to clean ur brush...
Mr thinner strictly for paint or stripping paint only, except u damn rich one... sweat.gif
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post Aug 13 2008, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Aug 13 2008, 01:58 PM)
usually we clean our brush using normal thinner ma, so rich use hobby thinner mer sweat.gif
wash d, next time use no problem one ma.. nthg will happen to gunpla
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ok thanks.. normally i reuse it for dark colour.. not much..
now using big brush.. sure waste to clean that...
so asked to confirm before got problem..
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post Aug 13 2008, 03:42 PM

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Sifu sifu sekalian... just want to know the honest truth:

Is there any difference in Tamiya's Black vs Flat Black vs Semi-gloss Black?

I have one enamel Black and one acrylic Flat black, and they look the freeking same!!!
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post Aug 13 2008, 06:58 PM

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black ma... black hard to tell one.. unless u paint d...
gloss, sure can see the black got gloss one ma, flat then the black flat no reflection lor...
u cant tell from paint until u paint on the kit
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post Aug 13 2008, 09:49 PM

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enamel paint u wan use on AB meh... no right... so use acrylic lor... enamel use for hand paint... gloss semi gloss flat after paint only can see result.... for gunpla i recommend semi gloss cuz looks nicer BUT some gunpla kits are exception from this tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2008, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Aug 9 2008, 04:40 PM)
de ja vu question also... lol

softer for places where u put ur decals got "longkang" part.... something like ---sleep.gif---- a "longkang" softer, softens it then the decals looks natural...

for mark setter, after putting decal, apply on top.. it will slightly melt the decal so that it look natural painted on it..
NOTE: for green type decal not obvious but i use it for water slides, it makes a difference smile.gif
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btw, except for this mark softer, anything else or product can do silimiar job ?
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er.... dun think so..
anyway, mark softer also not to say very exp ma
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post Aug 14 2008, 12:48 AM

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I've primed my stargazer with mr base white. don't think spraying on another coat of white paint would help much? Should i proceed straight to shading?
so much to learn...
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post Aug 14 2008, 12:57 AM

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actually madmoz....
do things 1 by 1... ppl learn to walk before they run
So i recommend u, u shud do a few kits OOB 1st. Once u r good at OOB then slowly start doing other things...
i am new to AB too, but i am still learning just to do OOB only..
but it's up 2 u... master the basics!!!
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post Aug 14 2008, 01:05 AM

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heheh OOB not fun ler... i find airbrushing somewhat therapeutic sweat.gif
might apply a coat of paint after all to get a glossy surface...
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post Aug 14 2008, 07:44 AM

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u can try paint few different level de~ last nite i try silver metalic then black, then smoke and then final is pearl for the gun. the effect different.

The other i try silver and 2nd layer is red.when the red layer scratch off u can see the silver part i think which can do a paint chip effect de~
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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Aug 13 2008, 10:08 PM)
er.... dun think so..
anyway, mark softer also not to say very exp ma
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ya..i know, but it seems most of the place out of stock edi...

in worst condition, might cut the edge that expose. doh.gif
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post Aug 14 2008, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Lucifer_Light @ Aug 13 2008, 03:42 PM)
Sifu sifu sekalian... just want to know the honest truth:

Is there any difference in Tamiya's Black vs Flat Black vs Semi-gloss Black?

I have one enamel Black and one acrylic Flat black, and they look the freeking same!!!
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basically black is black, color is color. what u r mentioning is different finish and different medium.

basic paint tends to be gloss, because they r liquid, and the molecule tends to rearrange themselves in order before it gets too dry to move around, hence it ll be glossy.

if u add some particles into the paint, which cannot be melted, the final result will make the surface uneven, and hence u got a flat paint. the more you add (usually it's called flat base) the flatter the color u ll get. in market the so-called semi gloss or flat black is actually the same theory, just that the manufacturer add the particle for u, so u do not need to mix yourself.

in other words, u can just buy one gloss black, and 1 flat base, add the flat base into the black; add a little, u ll get almost-semi-gloss black; add more, semi gloss; add even more, flat; add a lot, flat, until a stage where too much flat base, where the paint can't hold all the particles, then ll get a effect like spreading baby talcum on your kit.

Try to understand the fundamental theory guys, then u wont ask the same type of question again.

now exercise: tongue.gif u apply clear, it ll be gloss, like top coat. then u add a little flat base into clear, what ll u get? add more flat base, what else u get? do the equation guys.

As for enamel, acrylic, lacquer etc etc, it's just the type of paint. other types are, oild paint, water color, poster color, pastel, etc etc.

Color has no formula. u apply and see what u ll get. dont like it, mix again and see.



QUOTE(pcomet @ Aug 14 2008, 07:44 AM)
u can try paint few different level de~ last nite i try silver metalic then black, then smoke and then final is pearl for the gun. the effect different.

The other i try silver and 2nd layer is red.when the red layer scratch off u can see the silver part i think which can do a paint chip effect de~
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i agree 100% with pcomet! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif all art teacher, professional modeller will tell you: do more layers! with more layers, easier to control color, also will achieve effects others hard to mimic, and impressive!

those color combination % in manual is for beginners, and also for the manufacturer to earn some extra cash; just use that as guide, but when painting, remember to use our eyes!

P/S: pcomet, yeah i always love this kinda paint chip effect! is one of my favorite finishing. i recommend the base silver u use enamel paint to ab, more durable. that's just my opinion wink.gif

This post has been edited by rayloke: Aug 14 2008, 12:19 PM
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post Aug 14 2008, 10:03 PM

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yeah , rayloke coz last time saw ur gundam at mid year compy so try out the effect ~hehe. I like some weathering but still on learning , really hope get more lesson from u ~

I believe my AB also cannot do any shading effect yet coz 0.5mm ~
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this is wat happened to one of the parts of my UC .. T.T
what should i use ? Super Glue or Mr Hobby Cement ?
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post Aug 15 2008, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(lehtung @ Aug 15 2008, 01:09 AM)
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this is wat happened to one of the parts of my UC .. T.T 
what should i use ? Super Glue or Mr Hobby Cement ?
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solly bruder, old people like me cannot see what that is lor.....

try to mention, which part it is, whether it is a movable part and such. a digram or two might help.

dont worry, these things happen, and to save it sometimes is fun too, besides helping to improve our modding skill. biggrin.gif
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i think this part is at the leg, something like a skirt for the leg...
shud be easy to fix becoz the moving part will be the rod(middle part) which wun effect it much...
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post Aug 15 2008, 04:00 PM

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i think that unicorn leg part... glue it... i think cement cannot tahan... because its always moving one...
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QUOTE(rayloke @ Aug 15 2008, 01:27 PM)
solly bruder, old people like me cannot see what that is lor.....

try to mention, which part it is, whether it is a movable part and such. a digram or two might help.

dont worry, these things happen, and to save it sometimes is fun too, besides helping to improve our modding skill. biggrin.gif
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hehe...
the part is the leg part ..

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post Aug 15 2008, 04:13 PM

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yealor... it's unicorn's part...
let me giv u a heads up..
if u plan to paint this kit, choose a mode u like.. paint and do tat mode...
dun paint d, play wiv the modes coz easy paint scratch and break later... smile.gif
if u wan destroy mode, afta painting then fix it back to destroy mode then ur leg part wun break again easily

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