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zenwarlord
post Aug 22 2008, 07:30 PM

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4G18 is no way better then campro.

4G18 produce peak 140Nm at 2800rpm and drops immediately, Campro is 152Nm at 4000rpm and maintain until 4300rpm.

4G18 produce 77kW at 6000rpm and Campro produce 82kW at 6000rpm.

the figure can tell right?


Added on August 22, 2008, 7:50 pm
QUOTE(sphiroth @ Aug 22 2008, 06:52 PM)
Found this thread in the automotive garage. Been thinking of buying to cover up those tiny scratches on my car. The only problem is that there is no Twilight Blue colour. If I use the Ble Black colour, will it be noticeable?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/718143/+20
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yea im looking for midnight blue as well...looks like the balck blue is the closes.


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post Aug 22 2008, 08:56 PM

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if an engine is not about the hp and torque then what is the purpose they measure it? that is the only terms to benchmark engine.

The 4G18 engine is giving a spike at 2800 rpm then drops while the campro is giving smooth climbing in both hp and torque. At 3300rpm both campro and 4G18 is producing the same torque approximately 135Nm.

With that kind of spike it's only gives u a car lead from stand still then ends up with 1-1.5 contenna lorry behind in 400m drag.

bare in mind campro is producing the same torque as 4G18 at 3500rpm. As the matter of facts Campro is not a high rev engine and it's a marketing terms used by Proton, most of the covensional car at that range of rpm. A high rev engine is those produce max torque at 6000rpm and above.

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post Aug 22 2008, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(richnet @ Aug 22 2008, 09:09 PM)
who say campro pick up slow?
wanna have a try?
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oooui ur's got extra 1 cam shaft la.

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post Aug 22 2008, 09:39 PM

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i mean he has twin cam.

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post Aug 22 2008, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Aug 22 2008, 09:41 PM)
Ever heard of marketing? Anyway, thats one way to measure engine performance but it not just that
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what else to measure on engine performance if not hp and torque? male or female engine?


QUOTE(sphiroth @ Aug 22 2008, 09:41 PM)
Because for city driving especially in jam, the rpm is always the the lower 3k rpm. The spike is actually good to get the 1tonne++ Waja moving. About the smooth climbing of Campro, I thought there's a torque dip before 4k rpm?
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that is the 4G18 engine is design for, it's city driving engine and it's not performance engine. As i mentioned no way 4G18 is better then campro in terms of performance. If u happen to browse through the factory chart of torque, it's not dip. It's just flatten all the way from 2000rpm to 2500rpm before it start to climb again. if u compare to 4G18 it start to drop from 2500rpm to 3500 rpm then flatten all the way from 3500rpm to 4500rpm and it up again a little from 4500rpm to 5500rpm. the different is campro flatten for 500rpm while 4G18 flatten 1000rpm.

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Aug 22 2008, 09:41 PM)
Its all about compromise. You get some, you loose some. Depend on whats you want in your car.
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the last few post is talking about performance, therefore it's all about performance.

QUOTE(sphiroth @ Aug 22 2008, 09:41 PM)
Isn't Campro max power at 6.5k rpm?
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that is max hp not max torque.


Added on August 22, 2008, 10:43 pmhey...anyone use this type of alarm?
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-08D...omplete_Set.htm

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-08D...REE_POSTAGE.htm

the key is suitable for waja? i look at the BLIZT type, the key pattern like not the same.


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post Aug 22 2008, 10:59 PM

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hmmm....that's strange about the chart. I hope proton chart is showing manual tranny and mine is also manual tranny.

Or perhaps since they selling CPS and now they reveal the true dyno result of campro to show the big difference hahahaha.


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Why not get those 2-way alarm. Quite effective and can get quite cheap also.  brows.gif

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the problem is I wish to have only 1 key with remote built in. Any recomendation for any brand that similar?


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post Aug 22 2008, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Aug 22 2008, 11:05 PM)
That maybe true also:lol: ..but isn't those chart is obtain at the crank, no transmission attach. If connected to transmission, got another 15% drop.  hmm.gif

Why you want only one key? Isn't it better to have spares?  sweat.gif
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that's right the result is on crank, or maybe different dyno, temperature & humidity gives different result.

oooh i mean i prefer that key+remote in 1 piece. bcos i feel it too bulky and pocket space consuming if i have remote + key seperately. laugh.gif



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post Aug 22 2008, 11:25 PM

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yes i do.....but mine Gen2 is auto.

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post Aug 22 2008, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Aug 22 2008, 11:36 PM)
You said in your previous post yours is auto  rclxub.gif One more reason Proton can 'cheat' the torque dip is by ECU mapping (like how Gen.2 and Waja got different characteristic although using same engune) and adjusting the TCU (like what they done in Persona).
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yea mine gen2 is auto and waja is auto as well. Earlier post I mentioned auto? Did I?

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post Aug 22 2008, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 22 2008, 11:45 PM)
Thinking of changing my wiper long time ago, spoil d..
But still dilemma which to go for, silicone or rubber..
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go for silicon lo....get those from Tesco (silicon refill blade). Only RM13.99/pc and i'm using those ....last till now already 1 year lol....only thing is it comes in even length 18", 20", 22" etc...

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post Aug 22 2008, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(wch5274 @ Aug 22 2008, 11:55 PM)
so good ka silicone one....
it clean up water better than normal one like bosch?
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to me it's better, the only downside is when the windscreen don't have much water it will create irritating squeaking noise. but it's real clean. If u saw the wiping has some line, all u need to do is wipe it with cloth and it's back to normal rclxm9.gif

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post Aug 23 2008, 12:16 AM

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the silicon is almost the same either brand it will be, the only different is silicon maker. As far as i know if the silicon material is dowcorning brand it might more reliable. But we never know.

RM78 for a pair is quite cheap, i remember did saw the PIAA brand and it cost RM115/pc.

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post Aug 23 2008, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(sphiroth @ Aug 23 2008, 12:22 AM)
So expensive, later people come and steal those wiper.  laugh.gif
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yea...so I end up buying at tesco RM13.99/pc.


Added on August 23, 2008, 12:26 am
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=343178

try this silicon wiper.....
but dun noe good or not
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that 1 looks like what I have now, it's grey color but the holder are pretty much nicer.


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post Aug 23 2008, 08:10 PM

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yea get the PU bodykit...it's like sotong...lol.
my front lips got deformed when they deliver to me, what I does is use hair dryer to heat it up then make it to ori shape ...aahhh

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post Aug 23 2008, 08:38 PM

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i dunno the aftermarket headlight will have problem in the adjusting the height of light. I did experience problem with my wira last time.

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post Aug 23 2008, 11:01 PM

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something missed out...lol

waja 2000~2008 - Mivec
waja 2000~2008 - GSR
waja 2000~2008 - GSR Turbo
waja 2000~2008 - EVO 4~7


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post Aug 24 2008, 10:12 AM

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ur windows spoiled....only thing u can do is try to use hand to pull it up, but i'm pretty sure it will drop down again.

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post Aug 24 2008, 10:35 AM

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that sounds like ur switch got problem...how about u try to take out another switch to plug it in and try whether it can wind up?

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post Aug 24 2008, 10:38 AM

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did ur power window panel crack?

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post Aug 24 2008, 10:47 AM

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the power window plastic panel. the black plastic panel that holds the motor and bracket.

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