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post Jun 2 2008, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Jun 1 2008, 11:21 PM)
42k is basic. That's a lot more than Intel. And the job scope is provide technical support for internal users. Meaning, when there isn't any problem, there  is no work for them. They even have a pool table in the office.

Money is not everything. But hey, I'm not holding you back from going to Intel but from what I heard, every year you will evaluate the performance of your partner (yes they pair you together just to do the evaluation) and whoever get a better evaluation, get an increment of RM50 per month.
The thing I was trying to say about the cube thing is, the tense inside is at stake. They do not greet each other because they are working under pressure. Would you work at that kind of place where you have to tension and tension and tension everyday? For your information, my friend graduated with 1st class honor in E&E(who worked in Intel before) told me all of these. Also, reading through the post, I can see there are some people commenting about the politic inside the Intel. Yet, the decision is totally up to you. Be there and feel it.

Another fact, Intel ALWAYS hiring. Why? Because their workers always come and go.
Every year, Intel even goes to my previous high school to advertise their company, showing the requirement, salary and the post in Intel(kononnya career talk). A question here, if Intel is so great, why are they still need to hire that much of people until they need to promote themselves in HIGH SCHOOL??!! I don't see AMD, Motorola, Shell all those big company came to my school to do such activity...
I had a chance to talked to one of the manager from Intel. I asked "I heard that... Those who stay more than a year in Intel is less than 5%. Is that true? How come there is such situation?"
He replied "Every company has its own problem, staff problem etc.... bla bla bla"

Anyway, I got no proofs. Be there and feel it yourself. It's a good experience though  icon_rolleyes.gif
Haha, why don't you do the survey first? Read through the post. Max 3.1k aka 12x3.1=37.2k
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LOL.....If only 1% of what you said above is true....LOL.....I don't care if your friend graduated 1st class or highest in the world. If he can't blend into working in intel, it's not the company's fault. Every company has their own set of politics. It's whether you want to be in them or not.

LOL..less than 5% is retained. LOL.......you're kidding me right?? Stop listening to that manager ( I'm curious to know who's that manager ). I listened to my friend that shell pays 50 million a year too......wanna go?

Max 3.1??

Count this: There're contractual bonuses which adds up to 1.5 months so that' 13.5. Haven't include the performance bonuses and whatever they might give throughout the year. Sides, we get stocks too so if you're happy with 42k, be my guest.

As for evaluation, evaluate in pair?? LOL, they're all evaluated in grades. Yes, it's abit unfair and I shall not go into that.

Intel is always hiring cause they're expanding lah. Intel believes in proactiveness that's why they go around campuses to promote themselves. Every company's personnel comes and go.

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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Jun 1 2008, 11:21 PM)
42k is basic. That's a lot more than Intel. And the job scope is provide technical support for internal users. Meaning, when there isn't any problem, there  is no work for them. They even have a pool table in the office.

Money is not everything. But hey, I'm not holding you back from going to Intel but from what I heard, every year you will evaluate the performance of your partner (yes they pair you together just to do the evaluation) and whoever get a better evaluation, get an increment of RM50 per month.
The thing I was trying to say about the cube thing is, the tense inside is at stake. They do not greet each other because they are working under pressure. Would you work at that kind of place where you have to tension and tension and tension everyday? For your information, my friend graduated with 1st class honor in E&E(who worked in Intel before) told me all of these. Also, reading through the post, I can see there are some people commenting about the politic inside the Intel. Yet, the decision is totally up to you. Be there and feel it.

Another fact, Intel ALWAYS hiring. Why? Because their workers always come and go.
Every year, Intel even goes to my previous high school to advertise their company, showing the requirement, salary and the post in Intel(kononnya career talk). A question here, if Intel is so great, why are they still need to hire that much of people until they need to promote themselves in HIGH SCHOOL??!! I don't see AMD, Motorola, Shell all those big company came to my school to do such activity...
I had a chance to talked to one of the manager from Intel. I asked "I heard that... Those who stay more than a year in Intel is less than 5%. Is that true? How come there is such situation?"
He replied "Every company has its own problem, staff problem etc.... bla bla bla"

Anyway, I got no proofs. Be there and feel it yourself. It's a good experience though  icon_rolleyes.gif
Haha, why don't you do the survey first? Read through the post. Max 3.1k aka 12x3.1=37.2k
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I think you shouldn't simply make judgement on thing that u never going tru... all your saying here from frens... all your fact here just from listening... tats no good.. engineer make judgement based on fact and data...but not from listening.. 50 per month?? i bet this is from listening as well... i been in intel for 4 years, and my income doubled since i got my first intel paycheck. and that doesn't count on my RSU, option, SPP, OT, allowance bla bla bla.. lotz of my peer experience the same too...

about your hiring stuff, turnover rate might be higher in other jobscope, as the semicon business is very job scope centric.. u can't compare manufacturing with design world. they are totally diff env and their enemy (other site counterpart) are diff though.. but what for sure is, the high hiring rate is due to the company continue expanding.. and US is shrinking... more and more design are moved to apac region now.. for INTEL, so far, Penang is the largest design center outside of US.. and the nearest to China and India. They have more than 10 years of design EXECUTION track record, compare to bangalore intel. Thats the reason they are expanding k? of cos there actually lotz of weaknesses reside in the company itself, but for me, so far this is the best company i ever served. And regarding to your so call5% thing... i donno where the hack u get it from... i know PDC particularly, the turnover rate ain't that high... lotz of them that going tru GT program since 5 years ago, still in the company...

btw, the job scope u r comparing, doesn't really apple-apple..u r comparing IT with engineering... the statement since beginning is totally wrong... are you engineer?

This post has been edited by ibmsege: Jun 2 2008, 12:37 AM
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post Jun 2 2008, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jun 1 2008, 11:54 PM)
Primary industry: Engineering - Semiconductor

I believe they also require or hire IT background for certain functions.
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They hire IT background as tester to test their new processor.
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i heard that Intel is slowly moving its RnD center to Kulim?
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QUOTE(ibmsege @ Jun 2 2008, 12:30 AM)
I think you shouldn't simply make judgement on thing that u never going tru... all your saying here from frens... all your fact here just from listening... tats no good.. engineer make judgement based on fact and data...but not from listening.. 50 per month?? i bet this is from listening as well... i been in intel for 4 years, and my income doubled since i got my first intel paycheck. and that doesn't count on my RSU, option, SPP, OT, allowance bla bla bla.. lotz of my peer experience the same too... 

about your hiring stuff, turnover rate might be higher in other jobscope, as the semicon business is very job scope centric.. u can't compare manufacturing with design world. they are totally diff env and their enemy (other site counterpart) are diff though.. but what for sure is, the high hiring rate is due to the company continue expanding.. and US is shrinking... more and more design are moved to apac region now.. for INTEL, so far, Penang is the largest design center outside of US.. and the nearest to China and India. They have more than 10 years of design EXECUTION track record, compare to bangalore intel. Thats the reason they are expanding k? of cos there actually lotz of weaknesses reside in the company itself, but for me, so far this is the best company i ever served. And regarding to your so call5% thing... i donno where the hack u get it from... i know PDC particularly, the turnover rate ain't that high... lotz of them that going tru GT program since 5 years ago, still in the company...

btw, the job scope u r comparing, doesn't really apple-apple..u r comparing IT with engineering... the statement since beginning is totally wrong... are you engineer?
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First, I DID NOT say that I'm comparing engineering with engineering. Second, for a degree in E&E, you can choose to enter a company with IT based or engineering based. I telling the option to those who wants to join Intel. Third, as far as I know, the Intel also provide IT based position in PENANG! Fourth, if the fact that 5% retain is wrong, why would the manager replied in such manner? If it's wrong, he should replied in a way like "Where did you hear it from?" or maybe "The statement you said is wrong" etc. But he didn't. I don't know what's his name because there were SEVERAL manager there.

EDITED: Also, your pay doubled not because of the stupid increment. It's because of the seniority. Please la. The best company you've ever served?? Because you only served one.

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post Jun 2 2008, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Jun 2 2008, 11:11 AM)
First, I DID NOT say that I'm comparing engineering with engineering. Second, for a degree in E&E, you can choose to enter a company with IT based or engineering based. I telling the option to those who wants to join Intel. Third, as far as I know, the Intel also provide IT based position in PENANG! Fourth, if the fact that 5% retain is wrong, why would the manager replied in such manner? If it's wrong, he should replied in a way like "Where did you hear it from?" or maybe "The statement you said is wrong" etc. But he didn't. I don't know what's his name because there were SEVERAL manager there.

EDITED: Also, your pay doubled not because of the stupid increment. It's because of the seniority. Please la.
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through out the post, u r comparing IT post with an engineering post.. The guy posting here from PDC, holding an engineering post. And your fren? IT support...

i have nothing to say, u r not in the field... better not to mislead ppl here.. i told u already, design and manufacturing env are totally diff.. u can't even compare both of them in terms of env and compensation...


Added on June 2, 2008, 11:20 am
QUOTE(glukolin1 @ Jun 2 2008, 11:07 AM)
i heard that Intel is slowly moving its RnD center to Kulim?
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nope, manufacturing is moving over there... DnD stay still in island... I should say DnD instead of RnD... the "R" term is still weak in apac....


Added on June 2, 2008, 11:22 am
QUOTE(pillage2001 @ Jun 2 2008, 12:06 AM)
LOL.....If only 1% of what you said above is true....LOL.....I don't care if your friend graduated 1st class or highest in the world. If he can't blend into working in intel, it's not the company's fault. Every company has their own set of politics. It's whether you want to be in them or not.

LOL..less than 5% is retained. LOL.......you're kidding me right?? Stop listening to that manager ( I'm curious to know who's that manager ). I listened to my friend that shell pays 50 million a year too......wanna go?

Max 3.1??

Count this: There're contractual bonuses which adds up to 1.5 months so that' 13.5. Haven't include the performance bonuses and whatever they might give throughout the year. Sides, we get stocks too so if you're happy with 42k, be my guest.

As for evaluation, evaluate in pair?? LOL, they're all evaluated in grades. Yes, it's abit unfair and I shall not go into that.

Intel is always hiring cause they're expanding lah. Intel believes in proactiveness that's why they go around campuses to promote themselves. Every company's personnel comes and go.
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bro, what is your job title in INTEL?

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QUOTE(ibmsege @ Jun 2 2008, 11:18 AM)
through out the post, u r comparing IT post with an engineering post.. The guy posting here from PDC, holding an engineering post. And your fren? IT support...

i have nothing to say, u r not in the field... better not to mislead ppl here.. i told u already, design and manufacturing env are totally diff.. u can't even compare both of them in terms of env and compensation...
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Yes, I'm not in the field. But if I meet the requirement for those position, I would choose a position with less workload and higher pay(42k i mentioned is just BASIC salary).

Yea probably you would say: intel is doing DnD.... bla bla bla.. but who cares? Now the important part nowadays is money. Yaya, money is not everything but everything cannot be done without money!
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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Jun 2 2008, 11:11 AM)
First, I DID NOT say that I'm comparing engineering with engineering. Second, for a degree in E&E, you can choose to enter a company with IT based or engineering based. I telling the option to those who wants to join Intel. Third, as far as I know, the Intel also provide IT based position in PENANG! Fourth, if the fact that 5% retain is wrong, why would the manager replied in such manner? If it's wrong, he should replied in a way like "Where did you hear it from?" or maybe "The statement you said is wrong" etc. But he didn't. I don't know what's his name because there were SEVERAL manager there.

EDITED: Also, your pay doubled not because of the stupid increment. It's because of the seniority. Please la. The best company you've ever served?? Because you only served one.
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Seniority has nothing to do with pay check. I know people who did not get increment for a year or two so increment has nothing to do with that.

About the 5% thingy, I doubt any company would be able to sustain with a 95% attrtion rate. That's manager is either high or he's on his way out of Intel. smile.gif


Added on June 2, 2008, 1:19 pm
QUOTE(ibmsege @ Jun 2 2008, 11:18 AM)
through out the post, u r comparing IT post with an engineering post.. The guy posting here from PDC, holding an engineering post. And your fren? IT support...

i have nothing to say, u r not in the field... better not to mislead ppl here.. i told u already, design and manufacturing env are totally diff.. u can't even compare both of them in terms of env and compensation...


Added on June 2, 2008, 11:20 am

nope, manufacturing is moving over there... DnD stay still in island... I should say DnD instead of RnD... the "R" term is still weak in apac....


Added on June 2, 2008, 11:22 am

bro, what is your job title in INTEL?
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PM ya.

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QUOTE(glukolin1 @ Jun 2 2008, 11:07 AM)
i heard that Intel is slowly moving its RnD center to Kulim?
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That's true but for certain product families only.
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silly question here. where is PG12 located or near too in FIZ?

cheeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssss
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How about AMD?is it the same with Intel?? cool2.gif
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QUOTE(shieja @ Jun 4 2008, 11:26 PM)
How about AMD?is it the same with Intel?? cool2.gif
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no idea about AMD... but i know they are really under pressure now... smile.gif
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QUOTE(ibmsege @ Jun 5 2008, 07:06 AM)
no idea about AMD... but i know they are really under pressure now... smile.gif
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Em, you working there?what type of preasure?is it a good one...or bad one..is it the working condition there almost the same with intel?
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QUOTE(shieja @ Jun 5 2008, 07:12 AM)
Em, you working there?what type of preasure?is it a good one...or bad one..is it the working condition there almost the same with intel?
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noo... i'm not there... who told u that...

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QUOTE(workshop @ Jun 3 2008, 10:55 AM)
silly question here. where is PG12 located or near too in FIZ?

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PG12 is in front of PG2 and PG4. biggrin.gif
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erm...i going to have my internship at intel pg7
anyone can let me have a rough idea what i going to do there
and what can we get as a intern?i heard they borrow you a laptop
and some subsidise
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QUOTE(underGr0und_8 @ Jun 11 2008, 02:58 PM)
erm...i going to have my internship at intel pg7
anyone can let me have a rough idea what i going to do there
and what can we get as a intern?i heard they borrow you a laptop
and some subsidise
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no laptop for intern and GT. if your need computer, they will give you a desktop at your cube.
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Greetings...

I;ve been offered as a Process Equipment Eng by Intel PDC.

will start next week.,

How is the working environment generally there?
Too much politic? workload? too high expectation?>

Im a fresh grad though...
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I've just applied for general accountant at intel, gonna finish my intern at penang port this july. Hope they'll shortlist me..btw, does anyone here knows whether Intel use SAP or something else for their account system ? thanks. smile.gif

p/s: im a fresh grad too. smile.gif
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wahh.. so hot aa here.. let's order a focus nite dinner 1st maa.. let's it cooling the hot conversation here... today is friday.. so.. kfc is coming here .. yeargh.. go PDCer's

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