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Mikiyo
post Jun 2 2008, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Jun 2 2008, 09:16 AM)
MRCB looks attractive at 128-130.. itchy hand..


Added on June 2, 2008, 9:18 amEngtex is flying high.
GPLUS suspended for morning session.

KHSB / KPS up a bit..
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Dont enter now yet..wait till market stabilise by afternoon
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post Jun 2 2008, 09:20 AM

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oh GPLUS suspended yeah...finally.

ahh looks like GAMUDA ship is sinking again, run while you can.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jun 2 2008, 09:07 AM)
whoa GAMUDA rebounded wor

looks like i was wrong tongue.gif

neverlog, dun wan to sell ka?
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no lah....this time for mid term mayb...expecting to reach around normal price like around ~RM3 rolleyes.gif

(shud I so greedy?)
Mikiyo
post Jun 2 2008, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(neverlog @ Jun 2 2008, 09:20 AM)
no lah....this time for mid term mayb...expecting to reach around normal price like around ~RM3  rolleyes.gif

(shud I so greedy?)
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if you think it would...then u can average down right? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 2 2008, 09:23 AM

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sorry.... what is average down? you mean break even?
Mikiyo
post Jun 2 2008, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(neverlog @ Jun 2 2008, 09:23 AM)
sorry.... what is average down? you mean break even?
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E.g u have 10000 units at 3 dollars ^^ then u saw the price drop to 2 dollar...u buy another 15000 unit to average down.

This means that ure cost of buying the 25k unit has dropped to RM2.4 biggrin.gif correct me if im wrong
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Parkson price not bad...hehehehe...can consider
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post Jun 2 2008, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jun 2 2008, 09:27 AM)
E.g u have 10000 units at 3 dollars ^^ then u saw the price drop to 2 dollar...u buy another 15000 unit to average down.

This means that ure cost of buying the 25k unit has dropped to RM2.4 biggrin.gif correct me if im wrong
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no la... I bought at 2.43 so no need to average down...hope it will go back to ~RM3 in mid term.... rolleyes.gif


Added on June 2, 2008, 9:47 amAdamG1981, if u bet today on KLCI, then not need to lose ur boxer and underwear liao... tongue.gif

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post Jun 2 2008, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(neverlog @ Jun 1 2008, 06:38 PM)
no la... I bought at 2.43 so no need to average down...hope it will go back to ~RM3 in mid term.... rolleyes.gif


Added on June 2, 2008, 9:47 amAdamG1981, if u bet today on KLCI, then not need to lose ur boxer and underwear liao... tongue.gif
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Haha

Todays' position:

SHORT June FKLI 2008. I just closed my position at 1270. Made 3 decent points. Not bad. Hopefully CI close RED RED... cool2.gif


Added on June 2, 2008, 10:04 amSell Sell Sell!!! Pending disaster coming!! brows.gif laugh.gif

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post Jun 2 2008, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Jun 2 2008, 09:30 AM)
Parkson price not bad...hehehehe...can consider
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Agree on this ... as most of their exposure in HK share market and china.

Mikiyo
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 2 2008, 09:57 AM)
Haha

Todays' position:

SHORT June FKLI 2008. I just closed my position at 1270. Made 3 decent points. Not bad. Hopefully CI close RED RED... cool2.gif


Added on June 2, 2008, 10:04 amSell Sell Sell!!! Pending disaster coming!!  brows.gif  laugh.gif
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ADAM ure FKLI contract is done thru online banking or remisier?
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 2 2008, 09:57 AM)
Haha

Todays' position:

SHORT June FKLI 2008. I just closed my position at 1270. Made 3 decent points. Not bad. Hopefully CI close RED RED... cool2.gif


Added on June 2, 2008, 10:04 amSell Sell Sell!!! Pending disaster coming!!  brows.gif  laugh.gif
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dun said disaster la... scare lo...

KLCI wil always green...!!! icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jun 1 2008, 07:18 PM)
ADAM ure FKLI contract is done thru online banking or remisier?
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Mikiyo, orders are done through telephone to your FBR. (Futures Broker Representatives)

Try speculating FKLI, instead of just buying, you can sell short too.


Added on June 2, 2008, 10:25 am
QUOTE(neverlog @ Jun 1 2008, 07:22 PM)
dun said disaster la... scare lo...

KLCI wil always green...!!!  icon_idea.gif
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Today red red rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

So can go BOTTOM fishing! biggrin.gif thumbup.gif

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post Jun 2 2008, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 2 2008, 10:23 AM)
Mikiyo, orders are done through telephone to your FBR. (Futures Broker Representatives)

Try speculating FKLI, instead of just buying, you can sell short too.
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Buut i think for think month its better to short it first right? so better sell sell sell..then when going up d..u long long long tongue.gif buy buy buy XD

sounds easy....but still risky cry.gif let me master the fundamentals of shares first ^^ then after that, probably futures
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jun 2 2008, 10:18 AM)
ADAM ure FKLI contract is done thru online banking or remisier?
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As far as I knew, there is no online trade for FKLI (yet).
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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jun 1 2008, 07:26 PM)
Buut i think for think month its better to short it first right? so better sell sell sell..then when going up d..u long long long tongue.gif buy buy buy XD

sounds easy....but still risky  cry.gif let me master the fundamentals of shares first ^^ then after that, probably futures
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Fundamentals are used mostly in long term speculation or investments. Many of us actually use technical analysis to judge on our decision to wether sell short or long.

It's not easy, trust me. With a multipier of RM 50, you can use small capital to make big money or you can also lose your pants.

For example:

CI drops by 10 points; you are long
FLKI follows suit, 10 points drop

10 points x number of contracts you bought x RM 50

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Added on June 2, 2008, 10:30 am
QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 1 2008, 07:27 PM)
As far as I knew, there is no online trade for FKLI (yet).
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Yes, all orders are done via telp.



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post Jun 2 2008, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 2 2008, 10:29 AM)
Fundamentals are used mostly in long term speculation or investments. Many of us actually use technical analysis to judge on our decision to wether sell short or long.

It's not easy, trust me. With a multipier of RM 50, you can use small capital to make big money or you can also lose your pants.

For example:

CI drops by 10 points; you are long
FLKI follows suit, 10 points drop

10 points x number of contracts you bought x RM 50

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Added on June 2, 2008, 10:30 am
Yes, all orders are done via telp.
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So today ure going long right? tongue.gif should be able to earn some bux...anywayz..how long is the period of the contract? can we sell it at the same day itself?
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post Jun 2 2008, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jun 1 2008, 07:31 PM)
So today ure going long right?  tongue.gif  should be able to earn some bux...anywayz..how long is the period of the contract? can we sell it at the same day itself?
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You can trade as many times as you want in a day; buy first sell later, or sell short first buy back later. Commission is negotiable with your FBR but it is PER CONTRACT.

I am shorting today. Closed my position today (bought 1267, sold 1270)

However, the JUNE contract expires in June, and so forth. You can do a roll over, but you have to pay a fee to the brokerage.



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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 2 2008, 10:35 AM)
You can trade as many times as you want in a day; buy first sell later, or sell short first buy back later. Commission is negotiable with your FBR but it is PER CONTRACT.

I am shorting today. Closed my position today (bought 1267, sold 1270)
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ADAM the contract that u buy...the point is the CI point at that period of time right? like right now its 1266..if u buy the contract its at 1266?
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China Leads Asia in Retreat From Inflation Battle, Risking Bust

June 2 (Bloomberg) -- Plummeting currencies did in the first Asian economic miracle. The second may fall victim to surging inflation.

Read more here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...4K0c&refer=home


Vietnam, India, China, three major Asian economies have tighten their money supply and increase interest rate to combate inflation!!


Added on June 2, 2008, 10:47 am
QUOTE(Mikiyo @ Jun 1 2008, 07:39 PM)
ADAM the contract that u buy...the point is the CI point at that period of time right? like right now its 1266..if u buy the contract its at 1266?
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No, the bid and ask is higher majority of the times. This is what we call by contango. In theory, the future (FKLI) and the spot price (CI) will converge at expiry.

Since we have almost 20 trading days to go till expiry, the FKLI BID AND ASK is usually HIGHER. (Again, contango) So if you would want to buy one contract, you would have to Q at 1269 since ask is 1269.5.

However, to purchase or sell short one contract, you must deposit RM 6000 PER CONTRACT. So, 10 contracts, 60000 rm must be in your Futures account.





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