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AdamG1981
post Jun 27 2008, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jun 26 2008, 08:22 PM)
Why look for a turnaround in the market at such times? wink.gif
Even if market turns around now, you might not see profit in your counter.
It is something like "can see but no touch" tongue.gif
I would prefer market to go down down and down until i have settled my buying, then wait until my investment is realised.
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There's no way market will continue to keep diving without technically correcting itself. And finding the bottom is key especially in this bear market situation.

Even if you do pick up blue chip shares for a good price, you won't see a big, and fast return in a bear market.


And yes Zirconci, market will go back up but will close red.

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QUOTE(Digital_Life @ Jun 27 2008, 01:13 AM)
OMG oil price just hit USD 141 cry.gif
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blink.gif rclxub.gif Damn..
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Oil hits $142 already. Get ready for a big crash.
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QUOTE(sinclairZX81 @ Jun 27 2008, 04:04 AM)
hmm.gif  gonna be soon? Still have a bit more positions to liquidate.
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Very soon.

My prediction, oil to go up to $150 next week before the unemployment report. Dow Jones will close below 11000 this month.

Important datas next week:
Jun 30 9:45 AM Chicago PMI Jun -
Jul 1 12:00 AM Auto Sales
Jul 1 12:00 AM Truck Sales
Jul 1 10:00 AM Construction Spending
Jul 1 10:00 AM ISM Index Jun -
Jul 2 8:15 AM ADP Employment
Jul 2 10:00 AM Factory Orders May -
Jul 2 10:30 AM Crude Inventories 06/28
Jul 3 8:30 AM Initial Claims 06/28
Jul 3 8:30 AM Nonfarm Payrolls Jun
Jul 3 8:30 AM Unemployment Rate Jun
Jul 3 10:00 AM ISM Services

Merill Lynch to report earnings too, and not to mention Citigroup might announce a nasty surprise!

The Bears have the best cards at the moment, the bulls will going to lose big next week.

DJIA futures down 42 points at the moment.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/17689937

Next week has 4 trading days!

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jun 27 2008, 06:57 AM)
I don't understand why everyone keep thinking and saying "High oil, high oil, jump ship, doomsday, armageddon or whatever that is negative"? Don't you realise that everyday everybody is repeating the same old stuff? tongue.gif
Sorry for being rude, but is there anyone at all that sees all these things as POSITIVE? Share your views please smile.gif

P.S. I am not telling off those that are negative ones, but I thought this could be used as an ATTENTION line tongue.gif Sorry if you feel offended by my statement.
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On a positive side, those in the oil sector and agricultural sector are experiencing a huge boom due to the volatile, extreme rise of crude oil. These means plantation stocks in CI wil benefit as palm oil will most likely rally if oil continues its uptrend.


Added on June 27, 2008, 11:50 pm
QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 27 2008, 07:08 AM)
Futures on paper looks easy, but when you start you own trade, then it might not as easy as one taught, involves some strategy, discipline issue. You need some discipline to cut loss sometimes, otherwise bring you to Holland, also don't know yet. laugh.gif

On paper looks easy 1 point = Rm50. Commission charge Rm25 per transaction, so Rm50 aka 1 point already breakeven. The hardest although look simple is which way do you trade? Just like FKLI now is 1172 for July, buy or sell? Current KLCI is 1190. This whether buy or sell is the hardest decision to make compared to buying stock. 

I feel comfortable to trade stock whenever time, but for futures I won't simply move in without any clear indication or direction. I always will monitor 30 stocks across the heavyweight KLCI component stocks (I set one favourite page pruposely for 30 major stocks in order to trade FKLI one), how those stocks move and trade accordingly which eventually affect the KLCI movement.
But sometimes, FKLI reluctantly to move according to the cash market (KLCI), by no mean KLCI up 5 points, FKLI must also up, it depends on the premium/discount of FKLI compared to cash market, and also market near future outlook. Just like recent bearish mood, FKLI tends to trade at least 10 points and above discount.

Although commission looks minimal compared to normal stock, it is not the covering the commission issue, but catch the right direction of market move at short period of time, which is very hard to do sometimes, although it is 50:50 like bet big or small only.   tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Out of my trade previously 70% is on short side.

Just some of my experience.
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I have to agree with Cherroy on the trade pattern, almost all my winnings are from shorting CI.

Usually you can attend seminars organize by corporations such as NextView but prices for these seminars are so EXPENSIVE.

Best way to trade, use technical indicators and candlestick pattern analysis. Almost 70% of the time, you will profit from volatility.

Cherroy,

I shorted the market at 1204, covered back today at 1186. Was trying to hold on to my July long position but was uncertain, sold it for a $150 profit.

From my experience, biggest gain, or losses USUALLY COME FROM OVERNIGHT POSITIONS! SO make sure YOU do your homework first before playing BIG!


Added on June 27, 2008, 11:58 pm
QUOTE(aretla @ Jun 27 2008, 08:09 AM)
another option.. eminis brows.gif  brows.gif
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E-minis are great, if you want to have small leverage and smaller risk.

Try calling Philips Futures in Singapore, these guys have good trading platform.



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QUOTE(aretla @ Jun 27 2008, 08:18 PM)
u trade eminis? any experience to share?
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Trading e-minis is exactly the same as trading futures. You can short, or go long but leverage wise is smaller when you are trading e-minis. E-minis is a great way to diversify your portfolio.

Yes, currently i do have an account with Philips.



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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 27 2008, 09:16 PM)
The positive thing about increase in oil price or our fuel prices is less vehicles on the road now, driving a car on the road is easier and less time spent compared to before.

And you would get to buy more number of shares with the same amount of money, as compared to before.

It is good to have PMA in life, but do not apply it to future , currency or commodity trading. 9/11 occurred once, there might be others.
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I think there's a flip side of the oil boom. With the current agricommodity prices soaring high, this will encourage undeveloped countries to spend more money in agriculture.


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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 30 2008, 12:21 AM)
Most peopel adopt wait and see attitude now, especially with recent political news, how it will impact local political front. Kopitiam must be full pack of people talking about it.  biggrin.gif

A history (1998) episode reshowing? just hope stock market doesn't repeat the fate of 1998.   sweat.gif
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Unfortunately, it will go worst from here.

Oil is now up USD 2.00, Trichet is definitely increasing interest rates on thursday and along with a huge drop with payroll numbers. It's the sum of all fears for the CI.

Malaysia Economic Tsunami coming soon

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DJIA futures turn lower, oil has hit high $143.00.

The bears are saying "THE END IS NIGH"


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Jordy, you welcome

I don't think anyone of us should purchase counters at 52 week lows, there are still room and many uncertainties surrounding KLCI.

Let's say if Anwar gets arrested this time, what if the demo turns into bloody riots?


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QUOTE(Kinitos @ Jun 30 2008, 08:18 AM)
The most recent Mar2008 bottom 1170 is deeper than the Aug2007 bottom 1190
Can we break another new deeper bottom 1150?

Lower highs and lower bottoms are great seasons for bargain hunters
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Only for high value stocks. Never guess the bottom for CI because like our political scene, anything can happen!


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post Jul 1 2008, 01:24 PM

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Just get out from KLCI before Thursday.

Reminder:
Trichet ECB decision on interest rate

US nonfarm payroll
Unemployment report

OIL to $150? DJIA down 3-5% on thursday? Dollar to hit 1.60?




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Malaysia KLCI will break 1150 in mid july; for sure after these banks announce their results. IT's going to be ugly.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 30 2008, 10:54 PM)
Time for V14, anyone wants to start a V14?
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