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post Jun 18 2008, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Jun 18 2008, 02:54 PM)
at wat CI will circuit breaker being triggered for today?
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lol, still long red to go, last time was -130 points ....
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post Jun 18 2008, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jun 18 2008, 02:56 PM)
if not mistaken, 10% from previous day closing points.
ard 120++points. (not sure yesterday closing..hehe biggrin.gif)
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icic.... should be very unlikely then tongue.gif

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post Jun 18 2008, 03:00 PM

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If i am not mistaken, SAPP is hinting that someone will table a vote of no confidence against Bedawi when Parliment resumes. BN to collapse??


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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 18 2008, 03:00 PM)
If i am not mistaken, SAPP is hinting that someone will table a vote of no confidence against Bedawi when Parliment resumes. BN to collapse??
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PKR still needs how many seats to form the government?

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post Jun 18 2008, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 18 2008, 03:00 PM)
If i am not mistaken, SAPP is hinting that someone will table a vote of no confidence against Bedawi when Parliment resumes. BN to collapse??
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i think most probably it will happen. sooner or later.
Be prepared on next Monday when parliment will resumed, KLCI will plunged and trigger circuit breaker for second time in this year.. blink.gif

Be ready to shoot bullets.


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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Jun 18 2008, 03:04 PM)
PKR still needs how many seats to form the government?
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Parliment has 222 seats so in order to form a gov with simple majority, 111 seats above are needed by anyone.

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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Jun 18 2008, 12:04 AM)
PKR still needs how many seats to form the government?
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Maybe 30 or so??

Right now its so dangerous to be bottom fishing. Who knows what will happen tomorrow? MCA to announce press conference?? LOL...

These type of events usually trigger a massive chain reaction.... brows.gif

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post Jun 18 2008, 03:13 PM

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guess have to consider my stock as FD liao for now...have to hold longer.....so boring...hahhahaa
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You won't be surprised to hear some more BN or UMNO MPs might vote for it. So someone has to step down.

A re election GE could be on the way. Could be wrong anyway.

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The statement listed four areas of dissatisfaction with Abdullah's premiership:

1) That no concrete action had been taken on the issue of illegal immigrants, despite repeated requests by SAPP and other Barisan component parties;

2) That the government had offered no holistic economic solutions to cushion the blow of the sudden hike in fuel prices, which had greatly burdened the people and threatened further hardcore poverty;

3) That not enough attention had been paid to issues raised by the people of Sabah -- poor delivery systems, corruption, wastage, lack of transparency and accountability -- and that SAPP would have failed in its duty as elected representatives if these issues continued to be ignored; and

4) That the people have lost confidence in Abdullah, and that if he can't perform, he should step aside and make way for another leader to take over.


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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 18 2008, 12:14 AM)
You won't be surprised to hear some more BN or UMNO MPs might vote for it.

A re election GE could be on the way. Could be wrong anyway.
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I agree, everything's possible now. Within UMNO, there are already reports of internal revolts.



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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Jun 18 2008, 03:05 PM)
i think most probably it will happen. sooner or later.
Be prepared on next Monday when parliment will resumed, KLCI will plunged and trigger circuit breaker for second time in this year.. blink.gif

Be ready to shoot bullets.
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Looking at the charts, and assuming the same bottom support level as last time, maybe there would not be another circuit breaker because there's not much to drop before it hits that support level?

Any TA comments?
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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 18 2008, 03:10 PM)
Maybe 30 or so??

Right now its so dangerous to be bottom fishing. Who knows what will happen tomorrow? MCA to announce press conference?? LOL...

These type of events usually trigger a massive chain reaction.... brows.gif
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Parliment has 222 seats so in order to form a gov with simple majority, 111 seats above are needed by anyone.

PR currently has 82.. They need 30 more...


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QUOTE(AdamG1981 @ Jun 18 2008, 03:16 PM)
The statement listed four areas of dissatisfaction with Abdullah's premiership:

1) That no concrete action had been taken on the issue of illegal immigrants, despite repeated requests by SAPP and other Barisan component parties;

2) That the government had offered no holistic economic solutions to cushion the blow of the sudden hike in fuel prices, which had greatly burdened the people and threatened further hardcore poverty;

3) That not enough attention had been paid to issues raised by the people of Sabah -- poor delivery systems, corruption, wastage, lack of transparency and accountability -- and that SAPP would have failed in its duty as elected representatives if these issues continued to be ignored; and

4) That the people have lost confidence in Abdullah, and that if he can't perform, he should step aside and make way for another leader to take over.


Added on June 18, 2008, 3:17 pm

I agree, everything's possible now. Within UMNO, there are already reports of internal revolts.
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If all hopes are lost, then actually not bad news, but fear factor.

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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Jun 18 2008, 03:42 PM)
Parliment has 222 seats so in order to form a gov with simple majority, 111 seats above are needed by anyone.

PR currently has 82.. They need 30 more...
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By juz making the cut of 112...PR will only hv simple majority but not the 2/3 to control the Parliment.
They need more....at least 40+ for that.

Forming a Gov wif juz simple majority they r not strong enuf to reform & make changes

Guess more things will happened in June 23 when the parliment sits again
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jun 18 2008, 03:50 PM)
By juz making the cut of 112...PR will only hv simple majority but not the 2/3 to control the Parliment.
They need more....at least 40+ for that.

Forming a Gov wif juz simple majority they r not strong enuf to reform & make changes

Guess more things will happened in June 23 when the parliment sits again
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They may prefer another GE ( live or die for BN ).

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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jun 18 2008, 03:50 PM)
By juz making the cut of 112...PR will only hv simple majority but not the 2/3 to control the Parliment.
They need more....at least 40+ for that.

Forming a Gov wif juz simple majority they r not strong enuf to reform & make changes

Guess more things will happened in June 23 when the parliment sits again
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A Simple Majority is enough to make reform and changes....

Since the power of execution lies within cabinet and PM....

Only some form of amendments need 75% agree from parliament...
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Before the weekend, CI might break its support level. I don't think anyone will want to speculate/invest when there's political turmoil.
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QUOTE(keith_hjinhoh @ Jun 18 2008, 03:53 PM)
A Simple Majority is enough to make reform and changes....

Since the power of execution lies within cabinet and PM....

Only some form of amendments need 75% agree from parliament...
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Like u mentioned...only certain issues need 2/3 vote... all these 2/3 vote issues r mainly big & important issue

eg. ammendment of constituition...ammendment of ISA(correct me if i'm wrong)?

There is no point holding the Parliment when you do not have the total control (2/3 majority) of the house. You are always being bogged down by those 49% fella, and this is not too good.

In view of others...holding 51% power is not a strong government.

My 2 cents...

Guess should switch this to Real World Issues thread...getting OT nod.gif

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