been on and out in 2 college
previously TOA(TheOneAcademy) and now currently PIA(perak institute of arts)
somehow i'm able to notice something similar in both college,or design college generally speaking

Do you agree that,students who are good in drawing Anime-like stuff will be good in designing?
i've seen alot,that newly enroll students would take anime = graphic design
but in reality they're different things
IMO,maybe it's lack of education bout arts and designing during their high school?
stereotyping has always been happening since form 4 where students are planted with mindset that Art/Vocational class are for the drop-outs
hence,planting a thought that Science class are superior and the career ahead are way alot better than others
indirectly it destroy our country's creative industry.
so it is linked to the issue of "underpaid GD"
however
i'm not to talk about underpaid GD
but rather do students know what they're going through and the difference between anime and design
should we blame the school for lack of education? or the student themselves for not doing enough research?

Discuss
cheers

This post has been edited by yukikaze: May 17 2008, 09:52 AM

well for one, art and design is two different things. if not, they'd just be categorized under art.

i wouldnt start to find correlation between anime and design, bcoz despite "looking" the same, it involves an entirely different process. producing anime is more or reproducing art, it doesnt involve lots of logic process. design, on the other hand, is a very active and involving process, starting from problem identifying to problem solving to production.

and then we talk about the other issue here. how does anime relates to the lack of art-oriented education in schools?

my answer? it doesnt. anime, like any other pop-art culture, is just one of the ways art-prone students to express themselves. bcoz anime dominates our pop-art culture, then anime becomes prevalent as a technique we often see in art students.

but u always see that this doesnt get carried over in design. they still may have a preference of anime/manga style, but not in design. art students may carry the anime/manga influence in their artworks, but definitely not design students.

but then again
anime/manga lovers takes up designing course
bringing anime/manga influence to their design
that's what i see in both college
=)

IMO,yes for those who really know what designing is we could tell the difference
but can the students see it too? and not confuse it with designs

maybe too much naruto and bleach

of course u can't apply anime into design.

etc: interior designer = takkan u design every project and turn your client house into anime disneyland
graphic designer = every piece also anime concept, the boss also goreng u sotong gao gao
architect = every project also anime, ada chance work for looney toon's town

anime can consider about hobby, just like collect model kits, toys or watching movie (horror, action or comedy)
if we apply our hobby into career then it is very dangerous.
sort like most ppl love pc then open pc shop, love play video game open game shop....etc.
career is one of the life saviour. lots of thing hav to put into consideration.
lot of factor to drive a career into sucess not only base what we love, it is base on what market needs.

well like azarimy say, art students may carry the anime/manga influence in their artworks, but definitely not design students.

this is yet another misconception. Just because you draw good manga does not mean you will be a good GD. to be honest manga style is a cancer now. too many kids drawing manga and not learning the right way to draw things. you need to know the basics before you want to throw away the book.

as the above poster mentioned, you can't use manga style on every single thing. can you do an ad campaign for Petronas, Microsoft or Telekom using mnag style ? i dont think so. i think students should learn multiple style so their design style will be diverse. Don't limit yourself to just manga.

personally i think art classes in sekolah have been neglected. when i was in school the teacher does not even teach us the basoc or art. we went to class and bring our art supplies and then waste 2 hours just doing out stuff. when SPM came we did our own ulang kaji ( i have that huge PRESTON buku rujukan back in 1996 - yeah.long time ago). i am a straight A pure science student and i still took Pendidikan Seni in SPM because i love art. most of the teachers were baffled by my choice to take this subject. yes.. even back then people labelled art student as hopeless and bodoh! FOR SHAME

untill teachers see art as on par with math or science, art students will never gain the respect like engineering/medicine students. frankly speaking i'm sick of being treated like a retard just because i am an art student.

justice to arts.. give pendidikan seni the same respect as the one you gave to physics!! damn it!

Most people stick only to what they've studied. One leg kick people nowadays not many since they need a lot of knowledge and experiences, time as well.

no doubt a cancer for design students
out of 10 coursemate i have
8 of them would do their work with manga style
which is somehow irrelevant

and hell yeah
not until high school teachers gave the same respect towards pendidikan seni
it will never be good

lol, that's the least of the problem.

most parents would make sure that their children stick to what the parents have studied. if the parents are engineers, there's 80% chance the children will venture into engineering related courses. and since we produce more and more science-based graduates, we're gonna see less and less emphasis towards arts.

Protective parents must be?

People always have this impression towards Arts & Design field, they would think that aiya those who go for this course will never earn big bucks in future. It is quite true but I differ because I believe if a person is smart regardless of which field the person in, they would still be able to be rich. Working for people memang underpaid but for the sake of experience lare.

Hmm, if the parents own a generation business like Nasi Lemak ker, Kuey Teow ker that one no choice lor. They still earn a lot of money. But not all of them are illiterate.

There was once I went to this coffee shop to tahpao chicken rice, this uncle saw me and asked "Yes, what do you want?, and which part do you prefer?". I stunned for 3 seconds, so I told him "Gimme boneless meat please".

Chicken rice seller speaks English not Engrish sial.

This post has been edited by zeist: May 19 2008, 07:55 PM

couldn't agree more
it's all about the mindset
well which job is not underpaid when you're a freshgrad?
just that GD are low compare to others
no doubt,less demand because not much people understand what's design


still i see alot of high school grads going for GD without knowing anything
somehow i feel,there's a tiny connection with destroying to GD industry

cheers

U could if you're designing for Bleach or Naruto's Creator lolz

I agree with you. Anime is not graphic design! i think anime falls into illustration category. You can't blamed yourself for not knowing which design courses to take. There should have an advisory personal to give the students a clearer picture about what is in Graphic Design. I myself used to draw anime and cartoons in my schooling time. When I enrolled in a Graphic Design college I thought it would further enchance my skills, but it was a total change from my drawing skills (artistic) to a more creative manner in Graphic Design.

I advise art students to look into their most interests field as there are lots of design variety courses to study. Have fun...

wow...nice nice advise...but
hw to it work when we hav to do a design?
do not really understand blurrrzzzsssss
cab xplain sikit ah?