Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 Cult Heroes, Little impact, but endearing to the fans

views
     
TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 10:59 AM, updated 18y ago

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


I can't remember if I've opened a similar topic before but here goes anyway. Now before everyone names popular choices like Ronaldo, Torres or whoever, keep in mind that to be a cult hero, you aren't the best player. Best players have a huge commercial following while cult heroes are those who aren't the most talented but have endeared themselves to the fans nonetheless. 'Cult' is often the opposite of 'Mainstream'. Oh well, give it a go.

My first pick would be 'Mad' Erik Meijer. Here is why they called him "mad" and why he endeared himself to Liverpool fans such as me despite being a striker and scoring only 2 goals!

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «





Attached image(s)
Attached Image
blinky
post May 15 2008, 11:13 AM

Relax, just trust me.
*******
Senior Member
2,633 posts

Joined: Jun 2005


Jay Jay Okocha?

Robbie Savage?

Roberto Carlos?

Fabien Barthez?
TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 11:18 AM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


Gerry Byrne

QUOTE
Signed in 1955 as an amateur, Byrne went on to make his debut for Liverpool in a 5-1 defeat to Charlton Athletic in the old Division 2.

To say “things got better for him”, would be an ironic statement, as the full-backs cult-hero status came amid excruciating pain in the 1965 FA Cup final against Leeds at Wembley.

Three minutes into the game, Leeds United skipper Bobby Collins caught Byrne with a full-blooded challenge. Byrne not only went onto play the rest of the match with a broken collar bone, but also put in a magnificent display, assisting Roger Hunt for Liverpool’s first of the game with a superb cross.

Bill Shankly, when speaking of Byrne’s courageous display, said "Gerry's collar bone was split and grinding together yet he played on in agony", said Shankly. "It was a performance of raw courage from the boy".

After the game, the Football Association decided to allow teams a substitution in competitive matches. Bert Trautmann, Ray Wood, Roy Dwight and Dave Whelan would argue that there decision was a little overdue.

The versatile full-back was a part of the Shankly side which was promoted from Division 2 to Division 1 and Byrne also picked up 3 Charity Shields (two shared) and, of course, an FA Cup. Nobody could argue he didn’t deserve the latter.




Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 11:25 AM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


One of my favourites has to be EEEEEGGGGOOORRRRRRRR Biscan. Never once complained despite playing out of position and getting loads of stick from fans. Finally blossomed when played in central mid but too late unfortunately to save his Liverpool career. Absolutely loved him to bits.

Still remember him looking absolutely perplexed after side footing the ball into the net against Fulham from 20 yards out.
QUOTE

How I miss moronically chanting "EEEEEGOR" from my seat in the Kop, whilst Biscan paid tribute to Johan Cruyyf trying all kinds of tricks and turns, working desperately hard for the adulation of the fans. If we were lucky - and Biscan started - we would get a wave, acknowledging our pre-match appreciation, whilst usually fondling his man-hood with his other hand.

What was it that made Biscan such a hero, on the Kop; was it is dopey expression, his Stan Laurel hair-cut, his silky-skills in an otherwise limited game-play; was it the images of his 'tackle', in a different sense of the word, against Everton or his strip-tease in the dressing room after the Champions League win?

Memories of being sent off in the Merseyside Derby in 2001 were erased two years later when he made the most remarkable last-ditch tackle of Everton's Tomas Radzinski, when playing 'out of position' (or was he? Even Biscan himself failed to make his mind up on whether he was a center half of a central midfielder). It was a challenge Bobby Moore, Franz Beckenbauer, Paulo Maldini et al would have been bloody proud of.

Remarkably, this eejit from Croatia, signed for, well, too much money, started to show his worth last season. Particularly in our Champions League run. Fans eyes which were rolling at the thought of him gracing Europe's finest stage were popping out of their sockets as he strolled past challenges and made mazy attacking runs into the box, one of which aided towards the winning goal against Deportivo in the group stages.

His Anfield career had been revived. The man who bore uncanny resemblence to Beaker from the Muppets, was showing that he was a rather good footballer after all. In the game against Fulham at Craven Cottage, Igor arrived on to the field to see the game out, as Liverpool were against the ropes with only 10 men. As he ran on from the touchline, looking as though he wished Benitez hadn't woken him up, he and Stephen Warnock played a couple of one-two's and Biscan unleashed an unbelievable strike into the top right hand corner of the goal. He turned away as players jumped on his back. It looked as though he needed confirmation that this wasn't one of his many day-dreams.

Other highlights came against Bayer Leverkusen when, on another tremendous burst from midfield, he slipped through Luis Garcia who slotted the ball into the back of the net. And finally, against Bolton, in a must-win game, Biscan grabbed a late winner, heading a killer ball from Djimi Traore straight into the ground and in past Jaaskelainen.

He left for Panathanaikos and the look on his face at the press-conference was the same as always.

However, Igor will never be adored as much anywhere else as he was by the Kop.






Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
verx
post May 15 2008, 11:26 AM

Soshified Madridista
Group Icon
Elite
3,737 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Kuala Lumpur


I'll chip in a name for Madrid.

Juanito

He wasn't the most talented player but he had a never say die spirit that endeared him to the Bernabeu faithful. Sadly he was killed in a car accident but he is still remembered by the fans. The next time you're watching a Real Madrid match played at the Bernabeu, if you listen closely at the 7th min (since he wore the No 7 shirt) the fans will chant "Illa Illa Illa Juanito Maravilla" to honor his memory.
TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 11:29 AM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


Joey Jones. Anyone remember seeing this banner?

"Joey Ate The Frogs Legs, Made The Swiss Roll, Now He's Munching Gladbach"

QUOTE
Joey Jones was signed by Bob Paisley in July 1975 for just over £110, 000 from Wrexham.

One thing which is rather disappointing about fans' memories of Joey Jones is what he was like as a footballer. Everybody remembers him as the definition of a cult-hero. His connection with the fans was legendary and he constantly gave 100%, entering challenges Roy Keane would never dream of. Few, unfortunately, forget to recall that he was a very stylish full-back - very comfortable in possession and capable of whipping in decent crosses.

After all he achieved in the game; he is just as proud to show-off the infamous banner as he is his medals, not to forget his Liverpool tattoo.

His hard-work, grit and determination is what will always be remembered, though. He gave his absolute all in every performance. The fans connected with him; they felt that if they had the honour to play for their beloved club, they would give as much effort as he does, and he shared the affection. He may not be the greatest player to ever walk on the Anfield turf, but he is a shining example of to a lot of people, as he is up there with the best of them, in my book.

His position as an Anfield legend was helped by a fantastically original banner unfurled in the 1977 European Cup final against AS Roma; "Joey Ate The Frogs Legs, Made The Swiss Roll, Now He's Munching Gladbach". A banner as priceless as every trophy in Liverpool's museum, Joey Jones represented what Liverpool were all about. He was never going to make the back-pages, but everyone who ever saw him play will always remember him.


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
Jason_T
post May 15 2008, 11:34 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
466 posts

Joined: May 2008
Stephane Henchoz?

This post has been edited by Jason_T: May 15 2008, 11:48 AM
TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 11:41 AM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


Okay we got off to a start. Now let's move on to explaining why they were or are cult heroes. Don't want this thread to be full of names with other posters not knowing why they were listed down. Cheers.
StarGhazzer
post May 15 2008, 11:47 AM

太空人
*******
Senior Member
5,355 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cera



Ray Parlour. True Arsenal legend.

Never the most talented player around, but when he's on the pitch he's all over it. Loses the ball more often than he keeps possession, but he always gets it back by sticking a leg in or throwing in a tackle.

Never complained, never whined, never b*tched around with other clubs. Just stuck his head in and played football.

And who could forget the hattrick against Werder Bremen in the UEFA Cup? Or the super curler vs Chelsea in the FA Cup final?

Romford Pele, real gunner. notworthy.gif
corez
post May 15 2008, 11:50 AM

Glory Hunter
*******
Senior Member
2,018 posts

Joined: Oct 2004
From: www.amry.org



Diego Forlan.

Took him like 20+ games to score. His first goals is a penalty and everybody just cheered. Everybody on and off the field likes him.

Confirmed to be a cult heroes when he scored 2 goals at Anfield.

Edited. I guess he wasnt suitable to play in England or with Man Utd because he just keeps scoring in Spain. He did mentioned that he would like a second crack at playing with United again.

This post has been edited by corez: May 15 2008, 11:52 AM
Jason_T
post May 15 2008, 11:53 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
466 posts

Joined: May 2008
Neil Mellor..started 12 games and scored 2 goals..
the most remarkable goal of his will be the 30yards volley against Arsenal on 28 december2004 that sent everyone captured...No one expected him to score..No one!!!

This post has been edited by Jason_T: May 15 2008, 11:55 AM
yngwie
post May 15 2008, 11:57 AM

| Ãøñ'¯|¯ G|v€ Â ÃðmÑ!
*******
Senior Member
3,092 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: |{µð£ð £µmPµ®


QUOTE(corez @ May 15 2008, 11:50 AM)
Diego Forlan.

Took him like 20+ games to score. His first goals is a penalty and everybody just cheered. Everybody on and off the field likes him.

Confirmed to be a cult heroes when he scored 2 goals at Anfield.

Edited. I guess he wasnt suitable to play in England or with Man Utd because he just keeps scoring in Spain. He did mentioned that he would like a second crack at playing with United again.
*
forlan rclxms.gif
and he suddenly comes alive in spain cuz their league suit his playing style. athletico paid 21 million euro for his service.
but eric cantona is my all time cult hero for mu even though i was into mu after watching gary pallister.cool2.gif
MyDevil
post May 15 2008, 12:02 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
7,480 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Moscow 21.05.2008


QUOTE(corez @ May 15 2008, 11:50 AM)
Diego Forlan.

Took him like 20+ games to score. His first goals is a penalty and everybody just cheered. Everybody on and off the field likes him.

Confirmed to be a cult heroes when he scored 2 goals at Anfield.

Edited. I guess he wasnt suitable to play in England or with Man Utd because he just keeps scoring in Spain. He did mentioned that he would like a second crack at playing with United again.
*
Was thinking about Forlan initially but later think, it should be Alan Smith smile.gif

Played out of position in midfield. Wasn't the skillfull lot but his determination to win every balls is top class. Never complained when not playing unlike Forlan who did show his furstration for lack of playing times.

SAF sent a thank you note to him when he joined Newcastle. That shows Smith good character on and off the pitch. thumbup.gif
m o m o
post May 15 2008, 12:03 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


Ian Holloway... even had his own word 'coined'; Ollyism... Played from the 80s - 90s, Holloway started his managerial career at Bristol Rovers in 1996 but were more notable at QPR and Plymouth Argyle, not so much for his tactical acumen, but rather, for his quirky quotes... Three out of four of his offsprings are born deaf due to a genetical defect in him and his wife...


QUOTE
"He's been out for a year and Richard Langley is still six months away from being Richard Langley, and I could do with a fully fit Richard Langley."


QUOTE
"I have such bad luck at the moment that if I fell in a barrel of boobs I'd come out sucking my thumb."


QUOTE
"Paul Furlong is my vintage Rolls Royce and he cost me nothing. We polish him, look after him, and I have him fine tuned by my mechanics. We take good care of him because we have to drive him every day, not just save him for weddings."


QUOTE
"It was lucky that the linesman wasn't stood in front of me as I would have poked him with a stick to make sure he was awake."


QUOTE
"To put it in gentleman's terms if you've been out for a night and you're looking for a young lady and you pull one, some weeks they're good looking and some weeks they're not the best. Our performance today would have been not the best looking bird but at least we got her in the taxi. She weren't the best looking lady we ended up taking home but she was very pleasant and very nice, so thanks very much, let's have a coffee"


TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 12:03 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(corez @ May 15 2008, 11:50 AM)
Diego Forlan.

Took him like 20+ games to score. His first goals is a penalty and everybody just cheered. Everybody on and off the field likes him.

Confirmed to be a cult heroes when he scored 2 goals at Anfield.

Edited. I guess he wasnt suitable to play in England or with Man Utd because he just keeps scoring in Spain. He did mentioned that he would like a second crack at playing with United again.
*
He was also probably the inspiration behind the "no taking off jersey" rule after it took him an eternity to put his kit back on lol. Nah I know, it's because the FA are afraid of what messages players have under their kits.
Jason_T
post May 15 2008, 12:08 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
466 posts

Joined: May 2008
QUOTE(MyDevil @ May 15 2008, 12:02 PM)
Was thinking about Forlan initially but later think, it should be Alan Smith  smile.gif

Played out of position in midfield. Wasn't the skillfull lot but his determination to win every balls is top class. Never complained when not playing unlike Forlan who did show his furstration for lack of playing times.

SAF sent a thank you note to him when he joined Newcastle. That shows Smith good character on and off the pitch. thumbup.gif
*
are we talking about the same smith that threw bottles to fans years ago? shocking.gif
TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 12:09 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(MyDevil @ May 15 2008, 12:02 PM)
SAF sent a thank you note to him when he joined Newcastle. That shows Smith good character on and off the pitch.  thumbup.gif
*
He works his socks off I'd agree but he wasn't an angel on the pitch at least.

QUOTE
Smith has had disciplinary problems throughout his career, and has committed numerous fouls. In total he has been sent off 7 times in the Premier League and has committed 423 fouls in the competition since 2002/03. Smith is therefore the second most prolific fouler in the league behind Kevin Davies (since records of such offences began).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Smith
That being said, there is no denying he has heart.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: May 15 2008, 12:09 PM
MyDevil
post May 15 2008, 12:13 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
7,480 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Moscow 21.05.2008


QUOTE(Jason_T @ May 15 2008, 12:08 PM)
are we talking about the same smith that threw bottles to fans years ago? shocking.gif
*
Not aware of that. When did that happen? hmm.gif

QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 15 2008, 12:09 PM)
He works his socks off I'd agree but he wasn't an angel on the pitch at least.
That being said, there is no denying he has heart.
*
He gave everything for his team even if it means to foul the opponents. He got sent off against us at OT this season.
m o m o
post May 15 2008, 12:19 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 15 2008, 12:03 PM)
He was also probably the inspiration behind the "no taking off jersey" rule after it took him an eternity to put his kit back on lol. Nah I know, it's because the FA are afraid of what messages players have under their kits.
*
Makes you think why they are saying that us 3rd World folks have no freedom of speech ehh?

Anyway, back to the subject at hand...

I was thinking the other day why the League seems to be a little different nowadays... of course, the usual like money, 100% professionalism etc...

What's really missing are the characters in the game... in the 90s we had people like Vinnie Jones and the Crazy Gang, Cantona, Gazza, Fowler, Ginola, Erik Meijer and the likes to lighten things up a little... even the managers got in the act like Egil Olson with his bright and damn right awful yellow boots...

For me, it's just a little too serious nowadays...

I think the Wimbledon Crazy Gang epitomizes cult-ness in the 80s and early 90s... right crazy characters throughout... from the chairman Sam Hammam to the playing staff like Vinnie Jones, Dave Beasant, Dennis Wise... A right laugh really, except when they beat us in 1988.


Attached Image
TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 12:28 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(m o m o @ May 15 2008, 12:19 PM)
I think the Wimbledon Crazy Gang epitomizes cult-ness in the 80s and early 90s... right crazy characters throughout... from the chairman Sam Hammam to the playing staff like Vinnie Jones, Dave Beasant, Dennis Wise... A right laugh really, except when they beat us in 1988.
Attached Image
*
The were a loony bunch indeed. The current team (MK Dons) is a far cry from the Wimbledon of old. Their most talented player to me back then was probably John Fashanu which says a lot about their lack of talent really. What they had though was a desire to win even if it meant winning ugly. Crazy lot. I've heard stories of players crapping in the others gym bag and stuff.
Jason_T
post May 15 2008, 12:30 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
466 posts

Joined: May 2008
QUOTE(MyDevil @ May 15 2008, 12:13 PM)
Not aware of that. When did that happen?  hmm.gif
He gave everything for his team even if it means to foul the opponents. He got sent off against us at OT this season.
*
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/i...and/3269549.stm

2003...before joining mu blush.gif
m o m o
post May 15 2008, 12:36 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


The originator of the Crazy Gang; Samir Hammam...

Sam has achieved a level of notoriety in English football for his unusual antics at matches, frequently walking around the pitchside during games, and his eccentric methods of publicising himself and his players.

Sam Hammam is a signed-up member of Wimbledon's Crazy Gang.

He has threatened poorly performing players with trips to the Opera.

In 1994 he was caught scrawling abusive graffiti in the away dressing room at Upton Park.

When signing Robbie Earle from Port Vale, he locked the midfielder in his study until he signed.

At Cardiff City he became a cult-hero with fans for taking part in their head-patting 'do the Ayatollah' chant.


Famous quote:

"We have to remain the English bulldog SAS club. We have to sustain ourselves by power and the attitude that we kick ass. Before we go down we'll leave a trail of blood from here to Timbuktu." - As owner of Wimbledon, March 1999.


Attached Image
clsiluf
post May 15 2008, 12:36 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,058 posts

Joined: Dec 2006
QUOTE(Jason_T @ May 15 2008, 11:34 AM)
Stephane Henchoz?
*
as duke said, to be cult heroes, they aint the best ... henchoz can say is a good defender, form a solid backline with carragher, hyypia and babbel during the famous 2001 year ... only he keeps low profile ...
TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 12:45 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


Another of my favourites, Titi Camara. He ran his socks off all the time.

QUOTE
Aboubacar Sidiki Camara, more commonly known as Titi Camara (born November 17, 1972 in Conakry), is a Guinean football player who, as of 2005, is playing for Amiens SC.

Camara was once a highly-touted prospect, spending time with Lens (1996–98), Olympique Marseille (1998–99), Liverpool (1999–2000), and West Ham United (2000–03). He signed for the latter team on December 21, 2000, for £1.5 million. A member of the Guinean national team, he played for his country at the 2004 African Nations Cup.

In December 2005 he was linked with the vacant manager's job with his national side, Guinea.

Titi Camara is famous for playing at Anfield against West Ham the morning after the death of his father, scoring the winning goal and then dropping to his knees in front of the Anfield Road stand with tears flowing. Despite his short spell at Liverpool he was seen as a cult figure amongst the supporters and was voted in at a more than respectable 91st position in the 2006 poll 100 Players Who Shook The Kop which was conducted by the official Liverpool Football Club web site. 110,000 Reds supporters worldwide voted for their favourite 10 players of all time. Camara's 91st spot made him the 2nd highest placed African player on the list behind Bruce Grobbelaar, an honour in itself. Ironically, West Ham fans regard Camara as one of the worst players ever to play for the club.





Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
m o m o
post May 15 2008, 02:14 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 15 2008, 12:45 PM)
Another of my favourites, Titi Camara. He ran his socks off all the time.
*
Apart from running around a lot, he did fak all for me...

Houllier's pet obviously... cult status nonetheless...
<Kenji>
post May 15 2008, 02:44 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
345 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
Claude Makelele

scored onli 1 goal after so many years under Chelsea
n that was even a penalty which i think Jose insisted him to take (which he then missed!) but pounced on the rebound to score...
even Mourinho was happy enuff to celebrate with him...
blinky
post May 15 2008, 02:51 PM

Relax, just trust me.
*******
Senior Member
2,633 posts

Joined: Jun 2005


How can you guys forget about Luis?

QUOTE
Replacing his ability as a match-winner, underlined with crucial goals against Juventus and Chelsea. He has been something of a bogeyman for the latter, with decisive goals against them in the 2004–05 UEFA Champions League semi-final second leg and the 2005–06 FA Cup semi-final at Old Trafford, though he has never scored against Chelsea in the league. His positive relationship with the fans is further underlined by the song frequently sung in his honor, to the tune of "You Are My Sunshine." The lyrics are these: "Luis Garcia, he drinks Sangria, he comes from Barca (Barcelona) to bring us joy! He's five foot seven, he's football heaven. So please don't take our Luis away!" Garcia ranked 24th in the 100 Players Who Shook The Kop online poll, with Jamie Carragher and Steven Gerrard being the only current squad players ranked higher.

On August 21st 2007 liverpoolfc.tv published a letter from Luis to the fans to say goodbye and thank them. Garcia later revealed that he wanted to return to Spain at some point and play for Atlético, and on July 2 his agent revealed that a deal was being put in place for a permanent transfer. Garcia signed for around £4m.

Rumours currently abound that Garcia will rejoin Liverpool in the summer of 2008 after admitting that he keeps in touch with Rafa Benitez over his fitness levels, and his failure to secure a starting place at Atletico Madrid.


TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 02:53 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(<Kenji> @ May 15 2008, 02:44 PM)
Claude Makelele

scored onli 1 goal after so many years under Chelsea
n that was even a penalty which i think Jose insisted him to take (which he then missed!) but pounced on the rebound to score...
even Mourinho was happy enuff to celebrate with him...
*
To be fair he is a defensive midfielder, not expected to get a barrow load of goals. Came with a big reputation having been the mainstay in midfield for Real. Still find it funny that Gravesan was supposed to be his "replacement". I don't know if he qualifies as a cult hero. No heard many Chelsea fans talk about him, here or in London.
melt
post May 15 2008, 03:30 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
974 posts

Joined: Jan 2007


user posted image

Smicer

Scoring the equalizer against Milan in the 04/05 to put us level in the most amazing night of the CL final. Didnt do much for us due a succession of injuries. His name have to be mention.
StarGhazzer
post May 15 2008, 03:36 PM

太空人
*******
Senior Member
5,355 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cera



This is becoming a Liverpool thread, where all the players who didn't exactly made it big at Liverpool got mentioned. tongue.gif

I hope Cisse's name doesn't get mentioned. sweat.gif
Or even players like le Tallec and Pongolle doh.gif Those were far too non-influential to be considered as cult legends, although I kinda though Pongolle would make it big with his pace and trickery.

Smicer was definitely one of the cult heroes, while Garcia was a fan favourite even though his stay was relatively short.

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: May 15 2008, 03:39 PM
sang_karim
post May 15 2008, 03:36 PM

:: sάής ЌάЯÎм ::
******
Senior Member
1,557 posts

Joined: Dec 2005
From: Batu Pahat, Johor Status: ..: Y N W A ::.



So many Liverpool player in the list here ... I will add one more .. Djimi Traore biggrin.gif

QUOTE
Traore is one of life's great conundrums. A bit like Brigitte Nielsen, you sometimes wonder what on earth they were put on this planet for, but ultimately you can't take your eyes of them. Djimi was signed by Monsieur Houllier during his time on Merseyside for a mere £500,000.

Djimi didn't really flourish during this time and found his first team chances fairly limited and when he did play he hardly inspired any sort of confidence, defending with all the nouse of a 18 year old smacked off his tits on heroine.

Things got that bad that Everton nearly signed him during Houllier's last season in charge, but thankfully for Liverpool fans, this move didn't materialise. The lowest point in Traore's ill fated career was in the FA Cup Clash against Burnley where he somehow managed to perform the Zidane drag back in spectacular fashion. Unfortunately for him, it was in his own 6 yard box and the hilarious own goal sent Liverpool tumbling out the cup. The words Bambi on Ice don't come even close in trying to describe the debacle.

However, like all Cult Heroes, Djimi showed that he had the cojones when it mattered and months later performed heroically in the Champions League Victory against Milan in Istanbul. His goal-line clearance from Sheva just made you know at the time that it was destined to be Liverpool's night. So Traore has now gone down in history as possibly the worst ever player ever to win a Champions League Medal.
Source
popsoul
post May 15 2008, 03:37 PM

䏿­»é³¥
*******
Senior Member
2,358 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
From: Siberia


Was about to type Titi Camara who ranked 91 in 100 Players Who Shook The Kop.

His goal against Arsenal in 1999-2000 season was splendid. Sadly he's one of the forgotten hero.
maxizanc
post May 15 2008, 03:42 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
5,909 posts

Joined: Jan 2006
From: 06.02.58.44.23.08.03


Donno if my list below is true or not

Wes Brown - A reliable backup during the missing of Gary Neville. Sucks in crossing IMO but still, reliable player. Not complaining sitting on the bench especially after the arrival of Nemanja Vidic. He's not really a good partner of Rio's. That's the only reason why Sir Alex chose Vidic instead of him.

Darren Fletcher - Sell Fletcher!! That's the word i heard from some of United fan 2-3 years ago. Big game player. Like him so much. If only his body is as fit as Vida or Fat Rooney and can run as fast as Ronaldo or Tevez.

John O'Shea - The most un-technical player in United if you ask me.. but hell, from a striker to GK.. 11 position on the pitch that he can play. I'd keep him even though he's not the best from the worst..
MADReaLJL
post May 15 2008, 03:49 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,050 posts

Joined: Mar 2005


QUOTE(maxizanc @ May 15 2008, 03:42 PM)
Donno if my list below is true or not

Wes Brown - A reliable backup during the missing of Gary Neville. Sucks in crossing IMO but still, reliable player. Not complaining sitting on the bench especially after the arrival of Nemanja Vidic. He's not really a good partner of Rio's. That's the only reason why Sir Alex chose Vidic instead of him.

Darren Fletcher - Sell Fletcher!! That's the word i heard from some of United fan 2-3 years ago. Big game player. Like him so much. If only his body is as fit as Vida or Fat Rooney and can run as fast as Ronaldo or Tevez.

John O'Shea - The most un-technical player in United if you ask me.. but hell, from a striker to GK.. 11 position on the pitch that he can play. I'd keep him even though he's not the best from the worst..
*
when u have nutmegged figo, u cannot be the most un-technical player laugh.gif
<Kenji>
post May 15 2008, 03:57 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
345 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 15 2008, 03:36 PM)
This is becoming a Liverpool thread, where all the players who didn't exactly made it big at Liverpool got mentioned. tongue.gif

I hope Cisse's name doesn't get mentioned. sweat.gif
Or even players like le Tallec and Pongolle doh.gif Those were far too non-influential to be considered as cult legends, although I kinda though Pongolle would make it big with his pace and trickery.

Smicer was definitely one of the cult heroes, while Garcia was a fan favourite even though his stay was relatively short.
*
lets hope that Diouf's name wont come out too... brows.gif
corez
post May 15 2008, 04:21 PM

Glory Hunter
*******
Senior Member
2,018 posts

Joined: Oct 2004
From: www.amry.org



QUOTE(maxizanc @ May 15 2008, 03:42 PM)
Donno if my list below is true or not

Wes Brown - A reliable backup during the missing of Gary Neville. Sucks in crossing IMO but still, reliable player. Not complaining sitting on the bench especially after the arrival of Nemanja Vidic. He's not really a good partner of Rio's. That's the only reason why Sir Alex chose Vidic instead of him.
*
Hmm, not sure about Wes Brown due to the wage demand when he hold the club at ransom. Did signed the contract in the end but won't help his standing with the fans as a cult heroes.

One more name in the hat. Ole Gunnar Solkjaer.

Who kicked the ball in the Bayern's Net?
Who kicked the ball in the Bayern's Net?
Ole Gunnar Solkjaer...

No fuss about being on the bench most of his time with us. He even declined to move to Spurs when apparently SAF has agreed with them.
yngwie
post May 15 2008, 04:24 PM

| Ãøñ'¯|¯ G|v€ Â ÃðmÑ!
*******
Senior Member
3,092 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: |{µð£ð £µmPµ®


how about robbie fowler. his 'plaster' is legendary, so does his goals tongue.gif

btw, there are quite a number of others;
andrei kanchelskis from mu's class of 90s
and there is this particular marco negri playing with rangers sometimes ago and scoring goals like no tomorrow(23 in 10 games??). too bad a freak injury to his eyes cut his career.
nakamura with celtic and perugia is a class act....

all of the above had big impact though.... cool2.gif

how about faustino asrilla's stint at newcastle united?

whoopa
post May 15 2008, 04:54 PM

b~o~b~o
*******
Senior Member
7,126 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: in ur base killin your d00dz



QUOTE(corez @ May 15 2008, 11:50 AM)
Diego Forlan.

Took him like 20+ games to score. His first goals is a penalty and everybody just cheered. Everybody on and off the field likes him.

Confirmed to be a cult heroes when he scored 2 goals at Anfield.

Edited. I guess he wasnt suitable to play in England or with Man Utd because he just keeps scoring in Spain. He did mentioned that he would like a second crack at playing with United again.
*
yea a cult hero for man utd .. hahaha we are just so happy when he scored

QUOTE(MyDevil @ May 15 2008, 12:02 PM)
Was thinking about Forlan initially but later think, it should be Alan Smith  smile.gif

Played out of position in midfield. Wasn't the skillfull lot but his determination to win every balls is top class. Never complained when not playing unlike Forlan who did show his furstration for lack of playing times.

SAF sent a thank you note to him when he joined Newcastle. That shows Smith good character on and off the pitch.  thumbup.gif
*
yea alan smith .. he really got alot of spirit in him .. he is willing to play any position

QUOTE(<Kenji> @ May 15 2008, 02:44 PM)
Claude Makelele

scored onli 1 goal after so many years under Chelsea
n that was even a penalty which i think Jose insisted him to take (which he then missed!) but pounced on the rebound to score...
even Mourinho was happy enuff to celebrate with him...
*
er that guys is freaking awesome la .. how can he be not talented ?

QUOTE(corez @ May 15 2008, 04:21 PM)
Hmm, not sure about Wes Brown due to the wage demand when he hold the club at ransom. Did signed the contract in the end but won't help his standing with the fans as a cult heroes.

One more name in the hat. Ole Gunnar Solkjaer.

Who kicked the ball in the Bayern's Net?
Who kicked the ball in the Bayern's Net?
Ole Gunnar Solkjaer...

No fuss about being on the bench most of his time with us. He even declined to move to Spurs when apparently SAF has agreed with them.
*
ole is very good striker la .. his finishing is damn good le bro
e30
post May 15 2008, 04:56 PM

JFT 96
******
Senior Member
1,189 posts

Joined: Sep 2006


duke, i still remember biscan's side footed goal against fulham too. what a goal it was.

my cult hero is Didi Hamman.
TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 04:57 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(e30 @ May 15 2008, 04:56 PM)
duke, i still remember biscan's side footed goal against fulham too. what a goal it was.

my cult hero is Didi Hamman.
*
Our resident German scouser. Amazing how he picked the accent up smile.gif
MADReaLJL
post May 15 2008, 04:57 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,050 posts

Joined: Mar 2005


QUOTE(<Kenji> @ May 15 2008, 02:44 PM)
Claude Makelele

scored onli 1 goal after so many years under Chelsea
n that was even a penalty which i think Jose insisted him to take (which he then missed!) but pounced on the rebound to score...
even Mourinho was happy enuff to celebrate with him...
*
he scored against tottenham in the league last season
<Kenji>
post May 15 2008, 05:22 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
345 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
i think for MU is Park lah... he's so hardworking n run down the pitch chasing the ball like a mad bull...
most of the time he's the player with the highest pitch covered...
we Asians sure support him wan...
Chrisky
post May 15 2008, 06:45 PM

Romanista
*******
Senior Member
4,567 posts

Joined: Jan 2005
From: Singapore



take a break from BPL, shall we ? biggrin.gif

introducing 1 of most beloved n respected 'hero' in Italy : Damiano Tommasi.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «



not only Tommasi is a great player, he is a great man. not even Lazio fans can hate him.

This post has been edited by Chrisky: May 15 2008, 06:47 PM
FollowN
post May 15 2008, 06:55 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
410 posts

Joined: Jun 2005
Paolo Di Canio - A colorful fascist ******* who referee-shoved his way to the FIFA Fair Play award.

QUOTE
Di Canio has been the centre of much controversy throughout his career; pushing over referee Paul Alcock after being sent off for Sheffield Wednesday and more recently, for making Fascist salutes. After making a salute in a match against Juventus in December 2005, he was suspended for one game by the Italian Football Federation and fined 10,000 Euros.

In 2001, he won the FIFA Fair Play Award. The previous December, in a match against Everton, in a noteworthy display of sportsmanship, Di Canio shunned a goal scoring opportunity and caught the ball from a cross instead as the Everton goalkeeper Paul Gerrard was lying injured on the ground after he twisted his knee attempting a clearance on the edge of the box. FIFA described the act as "a special act of good sportsmanship.

m o m o
post May 15 2008, 06:57 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 15 2008, 11:25 AM)
One of my favourites has to be EEEEEGGGGOOORRRRRRRR Biscan. Never once complained despite playing out of position and getting loads of stick from fans. Finally blossomed when played in central mid but too late unfortunately to save his Liverpool career. Absolutely loved him to bits.

Still remember him looking absolutely perplexed after side footing the ball into the net against Fulham from 20 yards out.
*
Igor 'Big Shaft' Biscan was indeed a cult hero at Anfield... too bad Houllier was clueless on how best to utilize him... the nightmare of playing centreback, my...


Jason_T
post May 15 2008, 07:07 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
466 posts

Joined: May 2008
QUOTE(m o m o @ May 15 2008, 06:57 PM)
Igor 'Big Shaft' Biscan was indeed a cult hero at Anfield... too bad Houllier was clueless on how best to utilize him... the nightmare of playing centreback, my...
*
Though Biscan can be considered as cult hero, i think Neil Mellor is a better candidate for cult hero.His volley stil fresh in my mind and thats strike won us the game... rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by Jason_T: May 15 2008, 07:19 PM
TSDuke Red
post May 15 2008, 08:39 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(Jason_T @ May 15 2008, 07:07 PM)
Though Biscan can be considered as cult hero, i think Neil Mellor is a better candidate for cult hero.His volley stil fresh in my mind and thats strike won us the game... rclxms.gif
*
Nah Mellor in my opinion is nowhere near cult hero status. You don't get that honour my scoring just one goal. If you look at the Meijer and Camara examples, you'll see why both of them endeared themselves to the fans. I was sad to see them go. Can't say I feel the same about Mellor.
jam_lennon
post May 15 2008, 10:27 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,156 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
hm.. wat a bout mcallister? the savior of reds at the end of season, but he left after that season.. contract over or being sold?

frank lebouf, a hot-head defender of chelsea, he now a actor @ hollywood, he can speak a very fluent yanky slang english....

nial quinn of sunderland..... most of the people will only reminiscent the goods of kevin philips, but omitted his formidable partner @ the first promoted season. retire due to nasty injury


blinky
post May 16 2008, 10:01 AM

Relax, just trust me.
*******
Senior Member
2,633 posts

Joined: Jun 2005


Rene Higuita

QUOTE
A truly bizarre figure, Colombian goalkeeper René Higuita would probably like to be remembered for the spectacular 'scorpion kick' with which he cleared a goal attempt in a friendly against England in 1995. However, he is just as likely to be remembered for the moment when his unorthodox style of play cost his country dearly, against Cameroon in the 1990 World Cup. Never content to stay in goal, Higuita had ventured outside of the area when it all went wrong and he was dispossessed by Roger Milla (who promptly went on to score the goal that knocked Colombia out of the tournament).



Alexi Lalas

QUOTE
Lalas was an American defender who seemed never to have truly made his mind up as to whether he wanted to be a footballer or a rock star. He dabbled in both, but proved more successful at the former. To date Lalas is the only American to have played in the Serie A, signed by Padova after the 1994 World Cup and playing for them for two seasons. Though his wild red hair and outrageous goatee must have drawn universal looks of horror in the desperately fashion conscious world of Italian football, he acquitted himself well on the field.



Jean-Marie Pfaff

QUOTE
Jean-Marie Pfaff was one of the mainstays of the Belgian national team during their very successful period in the 1980's, which culminated in the Belgians reaching the semi-final of the 1986 World Cup. Though he was an excellent goalkeeper first and foremost, widely recognized as one of the World's best, the secret for his enormous popularity lay in his colorful character. Always prepared to put on a show, 'El Simpatico' was universally loved by the fans. In a testament to the goalie's lasting popularity, Pfaff and his family became the stars of their very own reality-soap on Belgian TV in 2003.



Faustino Asprilla

QUOTE
Of course Tino came with a reputation already, considering he had played for Parma (where he is said to have declared he was a builder to get a visa), back when they were a decent team. He was also a member of the infamous USA 94 national team, which failed miserably after being given the ultimate jinx, being Pele’s dark horses. Amid rumours of drug cartels and betting rings disrupting the dressing room and a dismal defeat to the USA, (I sat in my parents’ bedroom at 2am watching that match and it was truly heartbreaking). It was said that Tino was one of many players who threatened to walk out before the game, and eventually did afterwards.

But to us Colombians he would remain a hero despite that because he also gave us the immense pleasure of being instrumental in a 5-0 demolishing of Argentina in their own backyard, something that we would never have dreamed of. In those days, we didn’t have much access to South American football, and still don’t really, so there were copies of the match on VHS that did the rounds amongst family so we could all see for ourselves.

nickvanhakim
post May 16 2008, 10:16 AM

Getting Started
**
Junior Member
59 posts

Joined: Feb 2006
From: Petaling Jaya


Park Ji Sung...hardworking player...very useful in the closing matches of the season..able to cover at any midfield positions...

This post has been edited by nickvanhakim: May 16 2008, 10:16 AM
TSDuke Red
post May 16 2008, 10:58 AM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


Don't be confused between "cult players" and "underrated players". Cult players have a loyal following of their own even though they may be crap players. Underrated players are those that don't get the recognition they deserve, but cult players do sometimes for reasons other than their footballing abilities. I think Blinky understands the concept judging from his picks.

I remember watching Alexi Lalas for the first time during the 1994 World Cup. He stood out instantly. It's not often you see a red curly haired hippy with a red goatee to boot, marshaling your defence. The only other defender that made a similar impact to me was Hollands John De Wolf who played for Wolverhampton Wanderers.

QUOTE
Nicknamed "Big John", "Rambo", and "De Wolf Man", De Wolf has played for Sparta Rotterdam, FC Groningen, Feyenoord, Wolverhampton Wanderers, VVV Venlo, Hapoel Ashkelon and Helmond Sport.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_de_Wolf


He wasn't someone you would have wanted to come up against I tell ya.





Attached image(s)
Attached Image
blinky
post May 16 2008, 11:20 AM

Relax, just trust me.
*******
Senior Member
2,633 posts

Joined: Jun 2005


Hahahahaha here's one group of footballers that garnered the "Cult Heroes" status in a negative way, and it's amazing you guys didn't mention about them.

QUOTE
Fowler was part of a group of Liverpool players from the mid-1990s who were nicknamed "The Spice Boys" by the press following a series of off-field controversies. The term was coined by the Daily Mail, and arose due to misplaced rumours that Fowler was dating Spice Girl Emma Bunton.[15] The term was subsequently used in a derogatory manner, implying Fowler and colleagues such as Jamie Redknapp, Stan Collymore, David James and Steve McManaman were underachieving playboys.


user posted image
StarGhazzer
post May 16 2008, 03:45 PM

太空人
*******
Senior Member
5,355 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cera



QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 15 2008, 06:45 PM)
take a break from BPL, shall we ?  biggrin.gif

introducing 1 of most beloved n respected 'hero' in Italy : Damiano Tommasi.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

not only Tommasi is a great player, he is a great man. not even Lazio fans can hate him.
*
A true Roma legend. notworthy.gif

I don't watch much Italian football, but this guy caught my eye way back during WC2002. Hard tackling, no nonsense player, not exactly dazzling yet full of spirit. Lovely. And when I found out about his sacrifices for his team, that just propelled him towards the pedestal of legends. In today's world of sport where $$ speaks the loudest, not many players can be like him.
ik3da
post May 18 2008, 11:56 PM

Poisoned, broken, and definitely poorer.
****
Senior Member
545 posts

Joined: Aug 2005
From: Where kiasu/kiasi lives



Just wondering, does Cantona (in case that some people have no idea, Eric Cantona) fits into this list of cult heroes?
m o m o
post May 19 2008, 12:46 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(ik3da @ May 18 2008, 11:56 PM)
Just wondering, does Cantona (in case that some people have no idea, Eric Cantona) fits into this list of cult heroes?
*
Nah, Cantona is a hero to all Utd fans... in fact he even has admirers other than Utd fans...
TSDuke Red
post May 19 2008, 11:31 AM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(ik3da @ May 18 2008, 11:56 PM)
Just wondering, does Cantona (in case that some people have no idea, Eric Cantona) fits into this list of cult heroes?
*
Nah as momo pointed out, he has many admirers who would readily admit he was a really talented footballer. Look at some of the examples i.e. Biscan, Meijer, De Wolfe, Lalas, Higuita, etc. They weren't necessarily the most talented but yet, they had a cult following. The were popular for other reasons i.e. flashy, eccentric, hard working, passionate, etc.
z3171600
post May 20 2008, 10:54 AM

On my way
****
Senior Member
534 posts

Joined: Mar 2008


Not sure about this since I have only becoming MU fan a couple of years. But I think Gabriel Heinze have the status of cult heroes as well, does he? If my memory serves me right, he was quite popular amongst the fan when he arrived.
TSDuke Red
post May 20 2008, 11:10 AM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(z3171600 @ May 20 2008, 10:54 AM)
Not sure about this since I have only becoming MU fan a couple of years. But I think Gabriel Heinze have the status of cult heroes as well, does he? If my memory serves me right, he was quite popular amongst the fan when he arrived.
*
Yes he was popular however you do know what sort of reaction he got when he wanted a move to Liverpool? smile.gif
zickey
post May 20 2008, 11:11 AM

VAPENESTJELUTONG
*******
Senior Member
2,125 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: shah alam / cyberjaya


don't u think dirk kuyt is a cult hero? bashed by the media for lack of goals, terrible first touch but then he still score important goal for liverpool and could be a right back even his natural position is STRIKER
m o m o
post May 20 2008, 04:07 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(zickey @ May 20 2008, 11:11 AM)
don't u think dirk kuyt is a cult hero? bashed by the media for lack of goals, terrible first touch but then he still score important goal for liverpool and could be a right back even his natural position is STRIKER
*
Yeah, I think Kuyt is fast becoming a cult hero for many hardcore Anfield Kopites, even though he has gotten no love from most Asian fans...

I respect his undying effort and enthusiasm to play hard and well for LFC...
MADReaLJL
post May 20 2008, 04:41 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
4,050 posts

Joined: Mar 2005


should be alan smith and heinze.. but the latter one already became a cnut laugh.gif

This post has been edited by MADReaLJL: May 20 2008, 04:42 PM
m o m o
post May 21 2008, 04:58 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ May 20 2008, 04:41 PM)
should be alan smith and heinze.. but the latter one already became a cnut laugh.gif
*
LOL... Heinze isn't exactly your most loyal footballer ehh... have to admit, after Utd's patience with all his injuries, the least he could do is ask for a move abroad or stay at OT...

It's not exactly a bad thing for you guys to lose him or Liv not to have signed him, with his proneness to injuries and all...
Hevrn
post May 21 2008, 07:46 PM

68.99.08
*******
Senior Member
4,017 posts

Joined: Jan 2005
From: Mont Kiara, KL


QUOTE(m o m o @ May 21 2008, 04:58 PM)
LOL... Heinze isn't exactly your most loyal footballer ehh... have to admit, after Utd's patience with all his injuries, the least he could do is ask for a move abroad or stay at OT...

It's not exactly a bad thing for you guys to lose him or Liv not to have signed him, with his proneness to injuries and all...
*
It's him wanting a move to Liverpool of all clubs that made him a Judas of sorts among the United faithful. As a player who've spent years in Manchester he should know pretty damn well that they're our main rivals. Killed his reputation as a former favorite.
TSDuke Red
post May 22 2008, 12:42 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(Hevrn @ May 21 2008, 07:46 PM)
It's him wanting a move to Liverpool of all clubs that made him a Judas of sorts among the United faithful. As a player who've spent years in Manchester he should know pretty damn well that they're our main rivals. Killed his reputation as a former favorite.
*
I'm trying to look at it from his perspective. We would like to think that players that put on our club colours would love the club as much as we do. We would like to believe their loyalty cannot be broke but in the end, aren't most of them just like regular everyday employees? I myself have changed companies four times and I'm sure many others share the same experience. If I'm not happy at my job or keep getting passed over for promotion, I might resign and leave. Heinze wasn't a regular and at his age he wanted to play every week. He wants to win trophies just like how we would like to win awards from our company, be it the "best employee" of the month award of whatever. Would you as an employee not move to a rival company if they offered you a better package? Would you now want your employer to give you a counteroffer?

Again, I'm trying to look at it from the perspective of a regular employee. We cannot assume they all love the club. Some are in it for the paycheck.
navilink
post May 22 2008, 12:54 PM

ã€ãƒ„】
********
All Stars
10,783 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



QUOTE(MADReaLJL @ May 20 2008, 04:41 PM)
should be alan smith and heinze.. but the latter one already became a cnut laugh.gif
*

speaking of cult MU players...i still like Andrei Kanchelskis...recently came to M'sia...
<Kenji>
post May 22 2008, 03:56 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
345 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
is Nolberto Solano counted for NU ?
Hevrn
post May 22 2008, 05:11 PM

68.99.08
*******
Senior Member
4,017 posts

Joined: Jan 2005
From: Mont Kiara, KL


QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 22 2008, 12:42 PM)
I'm trying to look at it from his perspective. We would like to think that players that put on our club colours would love the club as much as we do. We would like to believe their loyalty cannot be broke but in the end, aren't most of them just like regular everyday employees? I myself have changed companies four times and I'm sure many others share the same experience. If I'm not happy at my job or keep getting passed over for promotion, I might resign and leave. Heinze wasn't a regular and at his age he wanted to play every week. He wants to win trophies just like how we would like to win awards from our company, be it the "best employee" of the month award of whatever. Would you as an employee not move to a rival company if they offered you a better package? Would you now want your employer to give you a counteroffer?

Again, I'm trying to look at it from the perspective of a regular employee. We cannot assume they all love the club. Some are in it for the paycheck.
*
If you look at it from his perspective, yeah, its his prerogative. But for a fan, its Judas-like and we'll definitely get on his back. Sad to see him leave in the manner he did, especially after endearing himself to the fans. I guess we'd love to believe that some value loyalty more then money, but in today's world, people like that a hard to come by. Gone are the days of one club players, which is why I love Gary Neville, Scholes and Giggs so bloody much.
m o m o
post May 23 2008, 09:09 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(Hevrn @ May 22 2008, 05:11 PM)
If you look at it from his perspective, yeah, its his prerogative. But for a fan, its Judas-like and we'll definitely get on his back. Sad to see him leave in the manner he did, especially after endearing himself to the fans. I guess we'd love to believe that some value loyalty more then money, but in today's world, people like that a hard to come by. Gone are the days of one club players, which is why I love Gary Neville, Scholes and Giggs so bloody much.
*
It could be for money, no doubt.

But maybe Heinze really wanted to work with Rafa? Take the same perspective again, some people do change companies because they really want to learn more and learn from the best... it's not always about remuneration...

Anyway, off topic d...

Back to the topic...

I am thinking Shaun Goater at Man City... decent record, stayed loyal, crowd favourite... and a funny name too... smile.gif

Steve Bull at Wolves... again, same thing as Goater, AND funny name as well! LOL

This post has been edited by m o m o: May 23 2008, 09:12 PM
disco333
post May 23 2008, 09:13 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
453 posts

Joined: Feb 2008
A lot of players who have aged tend to have 'cult' status. They might be preforming at low levels but still the fans love them. Giggs and Scholes at United, Bergkamp towards to end of his playing career at Arsenal. Fowler springs to mind, Ole at United as well.
navilink
post May 24 2008, 11:10 AM

ã€ãƒ„】
********
All Stars
10,783 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



QUOTE(disco333 @ May 23 2008, 09:13 PM)
A lot of players who have aged tend to have 'cult' status. They might be preforming at low levels but still the fans love them. Giggs and Scholes at United, Bergkamp towards to end of his playing career at Arsenal. Fowler springs to mind, Ole at United as well.
*
Ole is a super sub, baby face killer, and now is a cult hero...woohoo many titles!
yngwie
post May 24 2008, 03:26 PM

| Ãøñ'¯|¯ G|v€ Â ÃðmÑ!
*******
Senior Member
3,092 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
From: |{µð£ð £µmPµ®


QUOTE(navilink @ May 24 2008, 11:10 AM)
Ole is a super sub, baby face killer, and now is a cult hero...woohoo many titles!
*
ole! ole! ole! it's baby face assasin, dude icon_rolleyes.gif
killer will be too violent for a baby faced like him laugh.gif
btw, gary neville isn't exactly atalented to the extent but he is an utility players which will comes good in any team he is in!

This post has been edited by yngwie: May 24 2008, 03:26 PM
navilink
post May 24 2008, 09:24 PM

ã€ãƒ„】
********
All Stars
10,783 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



QUOTE(yngwie @ May 24 2008, 03:26 PM)
ole! ole! ole! it's baby face assasin, dude  icon_rolleyes.gif
killer will be too violent for a baby faced like him  laugh.gif
btw, gary neville isn't exactly atalented to the extent but he is an utility players which will comes good in any team he is in!
*
i see gary neville as a dedicated player... and also...one-club player! wonder why philip neville went to everton...they got argument?
<Kenji>
post May 25 2008, 12:05 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
345 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
QUOTE(navilink @ May 24 2008, 09:24 PM)
i see gary neville as a dedicated player... and also...one-club player! wonder why philip neville went to everton...they got argument?
*
he went there for 1st team football...
Gr3yL3gion81
post May 25 2008, 07:37 PM

\(n.n)/
****
Senior Member
685 posts

Joined: May 2007
From: \(u.u)/


QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 15 2008, 06:45 PM)
take a break from BPL, shall we ?  biggrin.gif

introducing 1 of most beloved n respected 'hero' in Italy : Damiano Tommasi.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

not only Tommasi is a great player, he is a great man. not even Lazio fans can hate him.
*
This player deserves my respect. notworthy.gif
TSDuke Red
post May 26 2008, 10:58 AM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(m o m o @ May 23 2008, 09:09 PM)
It could be for money, no doubt.

But maybe Heinze really wanted to work with Rafa? Take the same perspective again, some people do change companies because they really want to learn more and learn from the best... it's not always about remuneration...

Anyway, off topic d...

Back to the topic...

I am thinking Shaun Goater at Man City... decent record, stayed loyal, crowd favourite... and a funny name too... smile.gif

Steve Bull at Wolves... again, same thing as Goater, AND funny name as well! LOL
*
Good call on "The Goat".

If there is one thing I admire about Steve Bull, it was his loyalty to his club. Not everyday you get selected to the national side while playing in the 1st Division. Even after the World Cup in 1990, he chose to stay with Wolves to help them fight for promotion instead of moving on to a bigger club. Respect that.
SUSSeLrAhC
post May 26 2008, 11:06 AM

★★★7Star★General★★★
*******
Senior Member
5,227 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Anchorage, Alaska



avram grant FTW!
clsiluf
post May 26 2008, 12:03 PM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,058 posts

Joined: Dec 2006
QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 22 2008, 12:42 PM)
I'm trying to look at it from his perspective. We would like to think that players that put on our club colours would love the club as much as we do. We would like to believe their loyalty cannot be broke but in the end, aren't most of them just like regular everyday employees? I myself have changed companies four times and I'm sure many others share the same experience. If I'm not happy at my job or keep getting passed over for promotion, I might resign and leave. Heinze wasn't a regular and at his age he wanted to play every week. He wants to win trophies just like how we would like to win awards from our company, be it the "best employee" of the month award of whatever. Would you as an employee not move to a rival company if they offered you a better package? Would you now want your employer to give you a counteroffer?

Again, I'm trying to look at it from the perspective of a regular employee. We cannot assume they all love the club. Some are in it for the paycheck.
*
means the fans that nick ashley cole as cashley cole are stupid ? nothing wrong with cole move to chelsea because of $$$ ?
TSDuke Red
post May 26 2008, 12:21 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(clsiluf @ May 26 2008, 12:03 PM)
means the fans that nick ashley cole as cashley cole are stupid ? nothing wrong with cole move to chelsea because of $$$ ?
*
You do know what "a matter of perspective" means right? Fans react purely on emotion without giving a thought to the economic impact moving between clubs has on a player. Which fan would not be pissed off if one of their players moves to a rival club? It's purely hypothetical at this point but would you not move to a rival company if they offered to double your salary? You'd at least give it some thought especially when you aren't in love with your current company, no?
m o m o
post May 27 2008, 06:10 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(Duke Red @ May 26 2008, 10:58 AM)
Good call on "The Goat".

If there is one thing I admire about Steve Bull, it was his loyalty to his club. Not everyday you get selected to the national side while playing in the 1st Division. Even after the World Cup in 1990, he chose to stay with Wolves to help them fight for promotion instead of moving on to a bigger club. Respect that.
*
If Bull moved, he could have achieved more IMHO... typical English centre-forward, a beast of a player with the look of a hooligan, what a sight!


navilink
post May 28 2008, 08:50 PM

ã€ãƒ„】
********
All Stars
10,783 posts

Joined: Jan 2003



or how about Paolo diCanio? anyone will remember his attitude pushing the referees....but there's one time when he got the chance to score (no goalkeeper at the goalpost)....but instead he take up the ball, and showed the referee there's someone injured somewhere on the field....that was sooo cool!!
StarGhazzer
post May 28 2008, 10:17 PM

太空人
*******
Senior Member
5,355 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cera



QUOTE(clsiluf @ May 26 2008, 12:03 PM)
means the fans that nick ashley cole as cashley cole are stupid ? nothing wrong with cole move to chelsea because of $$$ ?
*
There's nothing wrong with moving to a club who pays you more, but constantly talking shit and bad mouthing about everyone in the club who nurtured him into the player he is today, just because of a measly 5000/week paycheck is in no way forgivable.

QUOTE(navilink @ May 28 2008, 08:50 PM)
or how about Paolo diCanio? anyone will remember his attitude pushing the referees....but there's one time when he got the chance to score (no goalkeeper at the goalpost)....but instead he take up the ball, and showed the referee there's someone injured somewhere on the field....that was sooo cool!!
*
The irony. Paolo won fair play award, but will always be remembered for his referee abuse and Musolini salutes... tongue.gif

More cult heroes from Arsenal in addition to Romford Pele...

Gilles Grimandi... typical utility player with no fixed position, plays wherever he is asked to, no nonsense tackler, and gave us one of the worse defence pairing alongside Igor Stepanovs. sweat.gif Luckily that makeshift defence was just present for one match. After a short stint in US, he returns as a scout to help us raid Ligue 1. Recently turned down PSG's offer to remain at the Grove. Lovely Gilles, once a gunner, always a gunner.

Oleg Luzhny... damn it the neatly combed, flattened, ahpek hairstyle just cannot be erased from memory. Another utility player whose role was a reserve RB, did nothing spectacular but was pretty decent nonetheless. WOW-ed me once when he skipped past two or three Newcastle defenders in one of the league matches witha lovely dribble. That's probably the only flashy thing Oleg has done, but yeah... another cult hero. Don't think newer fans esp those who jumped onto the bandwagon after our unbeaten season would remember him though.


matyrze
post May 29 2008, 03:23 PM

Historical tears
****
Senior Member
678 posts

Joined: Dec 2007
From: Shah Alam


QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 15 2008, 06:45 PM)
take a break from BPL, shall we ?  biggrin.gif

introducing 1 of most beloved n respected 'hero' in Italy : Damiano Tommasi.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

not only Tommasi is a great player, he is a great man. not even Lazio fans can hate him.
*
OMG..i thought he is already lost somewhere at serie C or arabic gulf or australian league!!long time not hear about him..this article, very touching one...

edit: lor..this story was published in 2005..that's why i checked at wikipedia it says that he is currently at levante

This post has been edited by matyrze: May 29 2008, 03:27 PM
Gr3yL3gion81
post May 29 2008, 03:49 PM

\(n.n)/
****
Senior Member
685 posts

Joined: May 2007
From: \(u.u)/


QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 28 2008, 10:17 PM)
There's nothing wrong with moving to a club who pays you more, but constantly talking shit and bad mouthing about everyone in the club who nurtured him into the player he is today, just because of a measly 5000/week paycheck is in no way forgivable.
The irony. Paolo won fair play award, but will always be remembered for his referee abuse and Musolini salutes... tongue.gif

More cult heroes from Arsenal in addition to Romford Pele...

Gilles Grimandi... typical utility player with no fixed position, plays wherever he is asked to, no nonsense tackler, and gave us one of the worse defence pairing alongside Igor Stepanovs. sweat.gif Luckily that makeshift defence was just present for one match. After a short stint in US, he returns as a scout to help us raid Ligue 1. Recently turned down PSG's offer to remain at the Grove. Lovely Gilles, once a gunner, always a gunner.

Oleg Luzhny... damn it the neatly combed, flattened, ahpek hairstyle just cannot be erased from memory. Another utility player whose role was a reserve RB, did nothing spectacular but was pretty decent nonetheless. WOW-ed me once when he skipped past two or three Newcastle defenders in one of the league matches witha lovely dribble. That's probably the only flashy thing Oleg has done, but yeah... another cult hero. Don't think newer fans esp those who jumped onto the bandwagon after our unbeaten season would remember him though.
*
I remember them. nod.gif

Damn, I'm old. doh.gif
m o m o
post May 31 2008, 01:42 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(Gr3yL3gion81 @ May 29 2008, 03:49 PM)
I remember them. nod.gif

Damn, I'm old. doh.gif
*
They're from the late 90's... you're not old mate...

If you remember the Crazy Gang, Steve Bull etc, you're really getting old... smile.gif
StarGhazzer
post May 31 2008, 08:13 AM

太空人
*******
Senior Member
5,355 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cera



^We're still getting old since we're babies from the 80s. It'll be hard for us to remember anyone from the 80s, so the players from the 90s will be our first exposure to football tongue.gif
giotto
post May 31 2008, 10:04 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,051 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 28 2008, 10:17 PM)
There's nothing wrong with moving to a club who pays you more, but constantly talking shit and bad mouthing about everyone in the club who nurtured him into the player he is today, just because of a measly 5000/week paycheck is in no way forgivable.
The irony. Paolo won fair play award, but will always be remembered for his referee abuse and Musolini salutes... tongue.gif

More cult heroes from Arsenal in addition to Romford Pele...

Gilles Grimandi... typical utility player with no fixed position, plays wherever he is asked to, no nonsense tackler, and gave us one of the worse defence pairing alongside Igor Stepanovs. sweat.gif Luckily that makeshift defence was just present for one match. After a short stint in US, he returns as a scout to help us raid Ligue 1. Recently turned down PSG's offer to remain at the Grove. Lovely Gilles, once a gunner, always a gunner.

Oleg Luzhny... damn it the neatly combed, flattened, ahpek hairstyle just cannot be erased from memory. Another utility player whose role was a reserve RB, did nothing spectacular but was pretty decent nonetheless. WOW-ed me once when he skipped past two or three Newcastle defenders in one of the league matches witha lovely dribble. That's probably the only flashy thing Oleg has done, but yeah... another cult hero. Don't think newer fans esp those who jumped onto the bandwagon after our unbeaten season would remember him though.
*
I watched the whole referee pushing incident by Di Canio, he was actually trying to break a fight between his team mates and opposition. In doing so, he might have raised a few arms and some shoving and the referee saw it as he was part of the fight and red carded him. Di Canio being himself didnt take that too nicely and pushed the referee. Had he just leave the field and appeal the card, the card might have been rescinded.

Gilles Grimandi, the unsung hero of Arsenal. I've always mention his name in the Arsenal thread but nobody here ever gives a damn or even remembers him. He alongside Ray Parlour werent exactly what you call star players. They hardly ever score goals, maybe with the exception of Parlour who always chooses to score some spectacular goal, just from out of the blue. Grimandi on the other hand is a no nonsense player, hardly gets into the limelight, extremely hardworking on the pitch and just keeps going without complaining.

Igor Stepanovs...this SOB will probably go down in Arsenal history as the worst player. Haha. He's slow, doesn't win much headers, mistimes his tackles and will be remembered as 'the defender that concedes 6 goals' in the Arsenal's worst ever defeat to Man Utd. He was that bad that a commentator once said that Arsenal should sell Stepanovs, use that transfer money to buy a plane ticket for one of their targetted player. Of coz Arsenal was really broke at that point, with the new stadium looming.

Oleg Luzhny is abit better. Deputised for Lee Dixon when he was out injured. Also known as Crazy Horse. His tireless runs makes him a second choice at RB. He lacks the attacking or dribbling instincts of a RB but he makes it back with his lung busting runs and tracking. He didn't fare too badly as a Gunner but will always be remembered for his runs. I think he was a sprinter turned footballer.
StarGhazzer
post May 31 2008, 10:11 AM

太空人
*******
Senior Member
5,355 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cera



QUOTE(giotto @ May 31 2008, 10:04 AM)
I watched the whole referee pushing incident by Di Canio, he was actually trying to break a fight between his team mates and opposition. In doing so, he might have raised a few arms and some shoving and the referee saw it as he was part of the fight and red carded him. Di Canio being himself didnt take that too nicely and pushed the referee. Had he just leave the field and appeal the card, the card might have been rescinded.

Gilles Grimandi, the unsung hero of Arsenal. I've always mention his name in the Arsenal thread but nobody here ever gives a damn or even remembers him. He alongside Ray Parlour werent exactly what you call star players. They hardly ever score goals, maybe with the exception of Parlour who always chooses to score some spectacular goal, just from out of the blue. Grimandi on the other hand is a no nonsense player, hardly gets into the limelight, extremely hardworking on the pitch and just keeps going without complaining.

Igor Stepanovs...this SOB will probably go down in Arsenal history as the worst player. Haha. He's slow, doesn't win much headers, mistimes his tackles and will be remembered as 'the defender that concedes 6 goals' in the Arsenal's worst ever defeat to Man Utd. He was that bad that a commentator once said that Arsenal should sell Stepanovs, use that transfer money to buy a plane ticket for one of their targetted player. Of coz Arsenal was really broke at that point, with the new stadium looming.

Oleg Luzhny is abit better. Deputised for Lee Dixon when he was out injured. Also known as Crazy Horse. His tireless runs makes him a second choice at RB. He lacks the attacking or dribbling instincts of a RB but he makes it back with his lung busting runs and tracking. He didn't fare too badly as a Gunner but will always be remembered for his runs. I think he was a sprinter turned footballer.
*
I do remember Gilles, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned him right? tongue.gif
Cheers for the man as he stayed on as a scout and spearheaded our quest to unearth more French jewels.

Stepanovs haha... he may not be the best defender we've ever had under Arsene, but to call him SOB is a bit overboard. But yeah, those who are bashing Sendy endlessly need to watch Igor to know how grateful we are to have the Swiss Tony instead of the Latvian defender.


giotto
post May 31 2008, 10:49 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
3,051 posts

Joined: Apr 2006
QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 31 2008, 10:11 AM)
I do remember Gilles, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned him right? tongue.gif
Cheers for the man as he stayed on as a scout and spearheaded our quest to unearth more French jewels.

Stepanovs haha... he may not be the best defender we've ever had under Arsene, but to call him SOB is a bit overboard. But yeah, those who are bashing Sendy endlessly need to watch Igor to know how grateful we are to have the Swiss Tony instead of the Latvian defender.
*
Haha, i never really intend to call him a SOB, just a figure of speech. Yeah, be thankful we have Sendy instead of Igor.
m o m o
post Jun 1 2008, 04:49 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
399 posts

Joined: Mar 2007


QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 31 2008, 08:13 AM)
^We're still getting old since we're babies from the 80s. It'll be hard for us to remember anyone from the 80s, so the players from the 90s will be our first exposure to football tongue.gif
*
Not everyone was a baby then mate... smile.gif

Some older geezer would also struggle to remember anything before the 90s, simply because back then, football wasn't shown as often... sure, there were weekly football magazine round-up shows, but most 'Live' matches were FA Cups... "Sponsored by Dunhill - Style, Quality, Excellence" ... remember? Ahh, I am old...
StarGhazzer
post Jun 1 2008, 06:04 PM

太空人
*******
Senior Member
5,355 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cera



QUOTE(m o m o @ Jun 1 2008, 04:49 AM)
Not everyone was a baby then mate... smile.gif

Some older geezer would also struggle to remember anything before the 90s, simply because back then, football wasn't shown as often... sure, there were weekly football magazine round-up shows, but most 'Live' matches were FA Cups... "Sponsored by Dunhill - Style, Quality, Excellence" ... remember? Ahh, I am old...
*
Haha... yeah I remember... Dunhill advertisements for FA cup telecasts. Even in the late 90s and early 2000s Dunhill was the one which brought some football action to people without Astro like me tongue.gif
Chrisky
post Jun 1 2008, 07:00 PM

Romanista
*******
Senior Member
4,567 posts

Joined: Jan 2005
From: Singapore



here's a real cult hero for Roma. biggrin.gif

user posted image

Leandro Cufre, an Argentine defender who play for us for 5 years n virtually done NOTHING significant at all for us. but when he left for Monaco in 2006 the ultras marched on the street to bid farewell to him, n call him a legend. the reason : he played every game with full passion n spirit, n this :



LOL. i'm sure no one knows who he is unless those who really follow Serie A. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by Chrisky: Jun 1 2008, 07:00 PM
kobe8byrant
post Jun 1 2008, 07:03 PM

I'm too old for this stuff
********
All Stars
12,275 posts

Joined: Dec 2005
From: KL


Am I the only United fan who liked the ugliest keeper Earth has ever seen - Raimond van der Gouw?
StarGhazzer
post Jun 1 2008, 07:23 PM

太空人
*******
Senior Member
5,355 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Cera



^ Well he's not that ugly to be honest, in fact he looks like a cachexic Jens Lehmann... Tevez is so much worse sweat.gif

van der Gouw is a decent GK, but I'm not sure whether he's a cult hero of MU fans or not since he's not mentioned as often as the other ex-MU players. But I guess he could qualify as a cult hero since he's still a part of the treble team.
disco333
post Jun 1 2008, 07:36 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
453 posts

Joined: Feb 2008
Grimandi will always be remembered especially after he stopped Davids from scoring the first goal at the Emirates albeit illegally.
Hevrn
post Jun 2 2008, 01:31 PM

68.99.08
*******
Senior Member
4,017 posts

Joined: Jan 2005
From: Mont Kiara, KL


QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jun 1 2008, 07:03 PM)
Am I the only United fan who liked the ugliest keeper Earth has ever seen - Raimond van der Gouw?
*
Ugly? Looked like a pretty decent looking bloke to me. Taibi was far worst biggrin.gif
kobe8byrant
post Jun 2 2008, 01:49 PM

I'm too old for this stuff
********
All Stars
12,275 posts

Joined: Dec 2005
From: KL


Aiyo, lads I was merely kidding lah. But seriously, you are looking at his pictures pre-ponytail or post-ponytail? laugh.gif
QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Jun 1 2008, 07:23 PM)
^ Well he's not that ugly to be honest, in fact he looks like a cachexic Jens Lehmann... Tevez is so much worse sweat.gif

van der Gouw is a decent GK, but I'm not sure whether he's a cult hero of MU fans or not since he's not mentioned as often as the other ex-MU players. But I guess he could qualify as a cult hero since he's still a part of the treble team.
*
But in all seriousness, I think he was massively underappreciated. He was a solid deputy to the Schmeichel and when we had Barthez shoved down our throats, he stayed on for a while and played a bulk of games. If Quinton Fortune is worthy of cult hero status (well he should be at least), this lad should definitely be a cult hero.

QUOTE(Hevrn @ Jun 2 2008, 01:31 PM)
Ugly? Looked like a pretty decent looking bloke to me. Taibi was far worst biggrin.gif
*
Now a real cult hero: Jim Leighton who followed Fergie club to club.
sirnanzy
post Jun 2 2008, 01:52 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
360 posts

Joined: Jan 2007


Hehe, Massimo Taibi who famously blamed the grass after he let a ball slipped pass his crotch.

Anyone here remembers John Beresford?
TSDuke Red
post Jun 2 2008, 04:39 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,112 posts

Joined: Sep 2006
From: Earth


QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jun 2 2008, 01:49 PM)
.
Now a real cult hero: Jim Leighton who followed Fergie club to club.
*
I personally thought Jim Leighton to be a decent keeper. He as at the time the Scottish no.1 at the 1990 World Cup as well, to be succeeded later by Bryan Gunn. Speaking of United keepers being cult heroes, I'd have to nominate Les Sealey. Unless I'm mistaken you signed him from Luton Town and he wasn't a popular choice back them but put in some decent performances when Leighton's form began to wane. He has since passed away god rest his soul.

 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0520sec    0.66    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 19th December 2025 - 07:01 AM