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post May 15 2008, 03:06 AM, updated 18y ago

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so yea as the title says...which software gives the most accurate reading of a proc's temp?
Core Temp or RealTemp?
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post May 15 2008, 06:30 AM

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sor far im referin real temp..its gv more accurate temp compared core temp blush.gif
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post May 15 2008, 07:14 AM

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in my case tho, realtemp shows 5c less than core temp. how about you?
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QUOTE(Ryo @ May 15 2008, 07:14 AM)
in my case tho, realtemp shows 5c less than core temp. how about you?
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now i didnt use the coretemp anymoe doh.gif still primin now..4ghz 445x9 1.29v from real temp idle 37-38c load 54-57c..the temp readin from real temp n smart guardian not too much gap around 2-5c compared lastime when im using DK its almost 10c differ even with coretemp also 10c different sweat.gif
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It is depend on the value of Tjmax for each program.

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realtemp for penryns and coretemp for the remaining procs
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post May 15 2008, 12:23 PM

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real temp will have 5 - 10c different (lower) than Core temp, but as mentioned, the Tjmax oso different by that amount. So, i think not much different. so far, i yet to try smart guardian but i notice that everest and core temp show a same result. So, if i want to feel happy, i'll use real temp tongue.gif
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herm so as far as i can read, RealTemp is more accurate then CoreTemp?

any more other opinions?

i'm using PcWizard and it shows the same reading as CoreTemp for the temperature.

and also the cpu speed is the same as Cpu-Z.

so i thought it was okay.

i'm wrong? cry.gif

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post May 15 2008, 05:25 PM

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i using everest... coretemp.. and real temp.. all showing the same temperature.. ^^
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Depend on your cpu.For penryn,use realtemp.For conroe,use core temp or everest.
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wat bout q6600?
i read tat coretemp also got the wrong tjmax for it.
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I dun think got any software can report the temp accurately. smile.gif

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me ..core temp n realtemp show same result..
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post May 16 2008, 10:16 AM

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yeah, I was wondering abt this as well, when I look at the bios right... waaaa different temp indeed... If the bios reading is more accurate.. getting worried.lol
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QUOTE(Ryo @ May 15 2008, 03:06 AM)
so yea as the title says...which software gives the most accurate reading of a proc's temp?
Core Temp or RealTemp?
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Just remember that software reading of the core temperature is only an approximation, based on the "guess work" of the TjunctionMax. Intel does not publish the Tjunction of any of their desktop CPUs.

Each temperature software base their core temperature calculation on this simple formula:

Core temperature = TjunctionMax - DTS

DTS can be read accurate from the CPU, however, nobody outside Intel knows the true value of the TjunctionMax. Furthermore, the TjunctionMax for each family of CPU, and even different batches of the same family, might be different.

The most accurate way to measure CPU temperature is actually Tcase, but the process of putting a diode on the CPU is not for the average user.

You can read more about this in my guide on "CPU core temperature guide - the basics". The link is in my sig.... smile.gif

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make a small hole on ur hsf and stick a temperature sensor into it to get the "real temp"... haha
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post May 19 2008, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ May 16 2008, 08:07 PM)
make a small hole on ur hsf and stick a temperature sensor into it to get the "real temp"... haha
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ermmmm... is this thread for RealTemp or CoreTemp for intel only?? how bout amd.. coz i'm using amd.. nod.gif

i know amd proc produce less heat than intel, but which one show true temp???
n also amd have a lot bug about temp..


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I'm running NHC. Under heavy load, my Thermal Zone has temperature hell lot higher than core temp.

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post May 24 2008, 12:56 AM

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i'm using coretemp on my c2d.. gives satisfying accuracy..
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i just open everything, coretemp, realtemp, everest, abit uguru, and when the temp got too high, i stop stressing. up till now, the temps shown are all under 55c. yeah, realtemp & coretemp got difference alright, like coretemp is showing 2c-3c lower than realtemp, everest & uguru temp monitoring.

so for me, realtemp is the most reliable.
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QUOTE(Bleed_X @ Jun 4 2008, 03:32 PM)
i just open everything, coretemp, realtemp, everest, abit uguru, and when the temp got too high, i stop stressing. up till now, the temps shown are all under 55c. yeah, realtemp & coretemp got difference alright, like coretemp is showing 2c-3c lower than realtemp, everest & uguru temp monitoring.

so for me, realtemp is the most reliable.
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mine goes the other way around. realtemp is much lower than coretemp

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QUOTE(Ryo @ Jun 4 2008, 06:50 PM)
mine goes the other way around. realtemp is much lower than coretemp
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mine is consistently 5c lower and i found that that is because of the TJMax value, coretemp is 100c while realtemp is 95c, so when i set realtemp too 100c, both r identical
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Jun 4 2008, 07:00 PM)
mine is consistently 5c lower and i found that that is because of the TJMax value, coretemp is 100c while realtemp is 95c, so when i set realtemp too 100c, both r identical
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they calculate the temp based on tjmax...coretemp assumes tjmax at 105 while realtemp at 95....so when u set realtemp to 100 ur current temp reading will increase by 5
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i always set my tjmax at 80c... just a noob q here, what is the recommended safe temps? i alwez keep mine under 65c, or izzit a tad too high?

umm.. overvolt 10% from stock under air cooling is considered ok rite? i know this question should be on a different thread but if anyone can answer, i would appreciate it...

edited: 65 degrees load, not idle. if idle 65 degrees GILA rclxub.gif sweat.gif doh.gif

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post Jun 10 2008, 12:33 AM

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65c is still okay i guess for loads temps smile.gif
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70c is the highest for me.. more than that not recommended.. i try nearly 80c stressing but its just for testing only..
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yeah i believe 70 degrees celcius should be the limit smile.gif
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noob talking.. sorry if i m wrong icon_rolleyes.gif

i m using 2 detector.. core temp and real temp..

diffrent 8-12 c

e.g real temp 40 vs core tem 50 rclxub.gif

then i seting in bios.. when temp reach 60 c got sound warning.. brows.gif

what i got.. real temp is right.. mad.gif
and core temp is wrong.. vmad.gif

and i buying new casing.. new heatsink because of core temp.. vmad.gif

and i love real temp wub.gif

if i m wrong.. sorry doh.gif

edit reply version..

core temp v 0.99.2
real temp 2.70

my rig

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What version of Coretemp & RealTemp you use?
Please use the latest one.

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post Oct 12 2008, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Oct 12 2008, 01:04 PM)
What version of Coretemp & RealTemp you use?
Please use the latest one.

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i download again.. new 1.. still same
latest coretemp

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Windows-Widge...Core-Temp.shtml

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Post screenie here w those monitoring softwares.

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Oct 12 2008, 01:23 PM)
Post screenie here w those monitoring softwares.

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i i sir..

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and for information.. i m seting at bios, temp sound warning at 60 c
and i dont hear any sound

i m happy with this result..
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What version of RealTemp you use??

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adjust the tjmax......
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If he using old version of RealTEmp, adjustment of TJmax is not available.

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Oct 12 2008, 01:41 PM)
If he using old version of RealTEmp, adjustment of TJmax is not available.

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my tjmax 85 85 85 85
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QUOTE(urusnet @ Oct 12 2008, 01:42 PM)
my tjmax 85 85 85 85
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get the latest realtemp version 2.75 and above ....

then u shud get same result edi thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Oct 12 2008, 01:43 PM)
get the latest realtemp version 2.75 and above ....

then u shud get same result edi  thumbup.gif
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sorry bro..

what about i m setting the alarm temp at bios..
its true.. sound when real temp reach 60.. got sound from motherboard
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what mobo u were using anyway?sometimes mothbroard sensor are inaccurate too.like mine
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QUOTE(syahirax @ Oct 12 2008, 01:47 PM)
what mobo u were using anyway?sometimes mothbroard sensor are inaccurate too.like mine
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QUOTE(urusnet @ Oct 12 2008, 01:46 PM)
sorry bro..

what about i m setting the alarm temp at bios..
its true.. sound when real temp reach 60.. got sound from motherboard
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the sound from mobo is refering to ur mobo display cpu temp.... that is cpu temp shown on the software that came with ur mobo....

it doesnt follow coretemp or realtemp software.....
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from my mobo,usually its lower by 10C which inaccurate at all.Core temp should be good and pretty accurate even it beats my asus probe which might have compability issue with 65nm proc.
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QUOTE(syahirax @ Oct 12 2008, 01:47 PM)
what mobo u were using anyway?sometimes mothbroard sensor are inaccurate too.like mine
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maybe bro.. got to learn this.. maybe the sensor wrong

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not "inaccurate", most mobo measure at the CPU surface not internal core.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Oct 12 2008, 01:52 PM)
not "inaccurate", most mobo measure at the CPU surface not internal core.
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owh.. thank for this lesson

latest core temp and latest real temp

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50'c++ on idle.......

u better get a better cooling system or go water cooling.
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Oct 12 2008, 02:11 PM)
50'c++ on idle.......

u better get a better cooling system or go water cooling.
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its normal temps for 65nm quad + its B3 steppings.... its hotter then G0 of course....

even on watercooling also hard to tame those B3s

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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Oct 12 2008, 02:11 PM)
50'c++ on idle.......

u better get a better cooling system or go water cooling.
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yes bro.. i think so
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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Oct 12 2008, 02:27 PM)
its normal temps for 65nm quad + its B3 steppings.... its hotter then G0 of course....

even on watercooling also hard to tame those B3s
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yeah.. my dualie e6600 B2 stepping is a lot hotter than my quadie q9450... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Ryo @ May 15 2008, 03:06 AM)
so yea as the title says...which software gives the most accurate reading of a proc's temp?
Core Temp or RealTemp?
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both can give same result...

both detector must set same Tjmax..

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well, the question is actually wat is the tj. max of ur processor?

till now, people still argue bout the Q6600 GO, 95 or 100?

95 by real temp & 100 by core temp.
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u have to set it if u are using realtemp.
use coretemp and see the tj max value then apply it to realtemp.

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y each program gave me different tem.
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QUOTE(CoolZeero @ Oct 12 2008, 09:29 PM)
y  each program gave me different tem.
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u need to set the tj max value according to ur processor.
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Oct 12 2008, 05:09 PM)
u have to set it if u are using realtemp.
use coretemp and see the tj max value then apply it to realtemp.

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QUOTE(CoolZeero @ Oct 12 2008, 10:29 PM)
y  each program gave me different tem.
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Oct 13 2008, 12:47 AM)
u need to set the tj max value according to ur processor.
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its funny dat hilmiangah just mention it on the previous post & CoolZeero dun even bother 2 read it......... laugh.gif

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well some people wasnt born to read.............
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wat is the tjmax for e8400 e0?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 14 2008, 09:48 AM)
wat is the tjmax for e8400 e0?
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thats the one from allngap rite.....

its a 100.
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Oct 14 2008, 09:50 AM)
thats the one from allngap rite.....

its a 100.
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Normally how many tjmax do u set to monitor ur proc's temp??? Is the settings universal for all procs???
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but at coretemp it says 105c for tjmax. Should i follow urs?
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does EO and CO have diff TJMAx?
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well my coretemp show me 100 and its version 0.99.3

and my last e7200 also have tjmax value of 100 but my last e2180 have the max value of 85.
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i also confused caz eatch program gave different tem.
so which one is rit??
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i think u guys shud compared wit bios 2 get the real tj. max
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 14 2008, 09:48 AM)
wat is the tjmax for e8400 e0?
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like bro hilmi said.... it is 100 thumbup.gif

there is a official publication for it...try serch around ba

QUOTE(Aura @ Oct 14 2008, 10:42 AM)
Normally how many tjmax do u set to monitor ur proc's temp??? Is the settings universal for all procs???
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nope....its not universal...some procs are different tjmax.....

QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 14 2008, 08:08 PM)
i think u guys shud compared wit bios 2 get the real tj. max
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u cant do it that way la sweat.gif
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 14 2008, 08:08 PM)
i think u guys shud compared wit bios 2 get the real tj. max
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how accurate does the bios could be?and how would to do that anyway?
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QUOTE(syahirax @ Oct 15 2008, 02:30 AM)
how accurate does the bios could be?and how would to do that anyway?
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bios uses sensor in mobo? i think so........................
if dats the case the bios temperature shud b consistence wit core 0 temperature in core temp.
if not den adjust the tj. max

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 15 2008, 01:39 AM)
bios uses sensor in mobo? i think so........................
if dats the case the bios temperature shud b consistence wit core 0 temperature in core temp.
if not den adjust the tj. max
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i think it all depends bro,because cetrain motherboard even have problems with 65nm proc,like mine.the bios doesnt accurate at all
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QUOTE(syahirax @ Oct 15 2008, 02:41 AM)
i think it all depends bro,because cetrain motherboard even have problems with 65nm proc,like mine.the bios doesnt accurate at all
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lol.........higher den actual or lower?

later ur processor throttle bck even doesn't reach the tj. max
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Oct 14 2008, 09:08 PM)
nope....its not universal...some procs are different tjmax.....
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Ic ic.... Thx for the tip.... I'll try googling out for Q6600.....
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AFAIK, RealTemp gives the most accurate temperature readings.
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 15 2008, 07:30 PM)
lol.........higher den actual or lower?

later ur processor throttle bck even doesn't reach the tj. max
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lower than actual.like 10++ C.It looks nice in bios to see lower temp but the reality is doh.gif
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post Oct 16 2008, 04:23 PM

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question here...

is these normal??

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im using TRUE 120.. these are the temps on stock core...
even on my I45 CPU temp LED is showing 42c...
is there something wrong here??
hsf are tighten to the max...

when OCed to 4.0ghz 450x9 1.29v, idle temp is around 50c+ and load at 83c...
penin alreadi looking at the temp... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Oct 16 2008, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(casperito @ Oct 16 2008, 04:23 PM)
question here...

is these normal??

Attached Image

im using TRUE 120.. these are the temps on stock core...
even on my I45 CPU temp LED is showing 42c...
is there something wrong here??
hsf are tighten to the max...

when OCed to 4.0ghz 450x9 1.29v, idle temp is around 50c+ and load at 83c...
penin alreadi looking at the temp...  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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43C on stock speed?dont u think thats a bit high.But my stock speed with ultra is around 39/40C too.

This post has been edited by syahirax: Oct 16 2008, 04:44 PM
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post Oct 16 2008, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(syahirax @ Oct 16 2008, 04:44 PM)
43C on stock speed?dont u think thats a bit high.But my stock speed with ultra is around 39/40C too.
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thats the prob... penin alreadi... when OCed to 450x9 1.29v.. the idle temp is @ 50c+ and at load, the temp is 83c...
dunno wats wrong...
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post Oct 16 2008, 07:08 PM

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From wikipedia

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Junction temperature is the highest temperature of the actual semiconductor in an electronic device. In operation it is higher than case temperature, the temperature of the part's exterior. The difference is equal to the amount of heat transferred from the junction to case times the junction-to-case thermal resistance.
Maximum junction temperature is specified in a part's datasheet and is used when calculating the necessary case-to-ambient thermal resistance for a given power dissipation. This in turn is used to select an appropriate heat sink if necessary.


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post Jul 14 2010, 05:09 PM

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in my case core temp show core 0 30c core 1 26c
but real temp show 40c n 36c
by logic real temp is the most accurate
26c its like u have aircond your laptop or pc

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