so yea as the title says...which software gives the most accurate reading of a proc's temp?
Core Temp or RealTemp?
Core Temp vs RealTemp, which one give an accurate reading?
Core Temp vs RealTemp, which one give an accurate reading?
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May 15 2008, 03:06 AM, updated 18y ago
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so yea as the title says...which software gives the most accurate reading of a proc's temp?
Core Temp or RealTemp? |
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May 15 2008, 06:30 AM
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sor far im referin real temp..its gv more accurate temp compared core temp
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May 15 2008, 07:14 AM
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in my case tho, realtemp shows 5c less than core temp. how about you?
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May 15 2008, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE(Ryo @ May 15 2008, 07:14 AM) now i didnt use the coretemp anymoe |
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May 15 2008, 08:32 AM
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It is depend on the value of Tjmax for each program.
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May 15 2008, 11:16 AM
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realtemp for penryns and coretemp for the remaining procs
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May 15 2008, 12:23 PM
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real temp will have 5 - 10c different (lower) than Core temp, but as mentioned, the Tjmax oso different by that amount. So, i think not much different. so far, i yet to try smart guardian but i notice that everest and core temp show a same result. So, if i want to feel happy, i'll use real temp
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May 15 2008, 04:09 PM
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herm so as far as i can read, RealTemp is more accurate then CoreTemp? any more other opinions? i'm using PcWizard and it shows the same reading as CoreTemp for the temperature. and also the cpu speed is the same as Cpu-Z. so i thought it was okay. i'm wrong? |
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May 15 2008, 05:25 PM
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i using everest... coretemp.. and real temp.. all showing the same temperature.. ^^
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May 15 2008, 08:06 PM
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Depend on your cpu.For penryn,use realtemp.For conroe,use core temp or everest.
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May 16 2008, 04:35 AM
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wat bout q6600?
i read tat coretemp also got the wrong tjmax for it. |
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May 16 2008, 08:43 AM
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Trust your hand
I dun think got any software can report the temp accurately. -pWs- |
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May 16 2008, 10:06 AM
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me ..core temp n realtemp show same result..
in bios |
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May 16 2008, 10:16 AM
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yeah, I was wondering abt this as well, when I look at the bios right... waaaa different temp indeed... If the bios reading is more accurate.. getting worried.lol
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May 16 2008, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(Ryo @ May 15 2008, 03:06 AM) so yea as the title says...which software gives the most accurate reading of a proc's temp? Just remember that software reading of the core temperature is only an approximation, based on the "guess work" of the TjunctionMax. Intel does not publish the Tjunction of any of their desktop CPUs.Core Temp or RealTemp? Each temperature software base their core temperature calculation on this simple formula: Core temperature = TjunctionMax - DTS DTS can be read accurate from the CPU, however, nobody outside Intel knows the true value of the TjunctionMax. Furthermore, the TjunctionMax for each family of CPU, and even different batches of the same family, might be different. The most accurate way to measure CPU temperature is actually Tcase, but the process of putting a diode on the CPU is not for the average user. You can read more about this in my guide on "CPU core temperature guide - the basics". The link is in my sig.... |
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May 16 2008, 07:07 PM
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make a small hole on ur hsf and stick a temperature sensor into it to get the "real temp"... haha
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ermmmm... is this thread for RealTemp or CoreTemp for intel only?? how bout amd.. coz i'm using amd..
i know amd proc produce less heat than intel, but which one show true temp??? n also amd have a lot bug about temp.. |
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I'm running NHC. Under heavy load, my Thermal Zone has temperature hell lot higher than core temp.
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May 24 2008, 12:56 AM
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i'm using coretemp on my c2d.. gives satisfying accuracy..
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i just open everything, coretemp, realtemp, everest, abit uguru, and when the temp got too high, i stop stressing. up till now, the temps shown are all under 55c. yeah, realtemp & coretemp got difference alright, like coretemp is showing 2c-3c lower than realtemp, everest & uguru temp monitoring.
so for me, realtemp is the most reliable. |
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QUOTE(Bleed_X @ Jun 4 2008, 03:32 PM) i just open everything, coretemp, realtemp, everest, abit uguru, and when the temp got too high, i stop stressing. up till now, the temps shown are all under 55c. yeah, realtemp & coretemp got difference alright, like coretemp is showing 2c-3c lower than realtemp, everest & uguru temp monitoring. mine goes the other way around. realtemp is much lower than coretempso for me, realtemp is the most reliable. |
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Jun 4 2008, 07:00 PM) mine is consistently 5c lower and i found that that is because of the TJMax value, coretemp is 100c while realtemp is 95c, so when i set realtemp too 100c, both r identical they calculate the temp based on tjmax...coretemp assumes tjmax at 105 while realtemp at 95....so when u set realtemp to 100 ur current temp reading will increase by 5 |
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i always set my tjmax at 80c... just a noob q here, what is the recommended safe temps? i alwez keep mine under 65c, or izzit a tad too high?
umm.. overvolt 10% from stock under air cooling is considered ok rite? i know this question should be on a different thread but if anyone can answer, i would appreciate it... edited: 65 degrees load, not idle. if idle 65 degrees GILA This post has been edited by Bleed_X: Jun 9 2008, 03:18 PM |
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65c is still okay i guess for loads temps
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70c is the highest for me.. more than that not recommended.. i try nearly 80c stressing but its just for testing only..
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yeah i believe 70 degrees celcius should be the limit
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noob talking.. sorry if i m wrong
i m using 2 detector.. core temp and real temp.. diffrent 8-12 c e.g real temp 40 vs core tem 50 then i seting in bios.. when temp reach 60 c got sound warning.. what i got.. real temp is right.. and core temp is wrong.. and i buying new casing.. new heatsink because of core temp.. and i love real temp if i m wrong.. sorry edit reply version.. core temp v 0.99.2 real temp 2.70 my rig qx6700 x48 dq6 croshair 2gb x 2 800mhz gtx 280 odin 800 watt scorpion xigmantex p80r This post has been edited by urusnet: Oct 12 2008, 01:51 PM |
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What version of Coretemp & RealTemp you use?
Please use the latest one. -pWs- |
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Oct 12 2008, 01:04 PM) i download again.. new 1.. still samelatest coretemp http://www.softpedia.com/get/Windows-Widge...Core-Temp.shtml This post has been edited by urusnet: Oct 12 2008, 01:15 PM |
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Oct 12 2008, 01:23 PM
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Post screenie here w those monitoring softwares.
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Oct 12 2008, 01:36 PM
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Oct 12 2008, 01:38 PM
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What version of RealTemp you use??
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Oct 12 2008, 01:39 PM
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adjust the tjmax......
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Oct 12 2008, 01:41 PM
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If he using old version of RealTEmp, adjustment of TJmax is not available.
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what mobo u were using anyway?sometimes mothbroard sensor are inaccurate too.like mine
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QUOTE(urusnet @ Oct 12 2008, 01:46 PM) sorry bro.. the sound from mobo is refering to ur mobo display cpu temp.... that is cpu temp shown on the software that came with ur mobo....what about i m setting the alarm temp at bios.. its true.. sound when real temp reach 60.. got sound from motherboard it doesnt follow coretemp or realtemp software..... |
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from my mobo,usually its lower by 10C which inaccurate at all.Core temp should be good and pretty accurate even it beats my asus probe which might have compability issue with 65nm proc.
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not "inaccurate", most mobo measure at the CPU surface not internal core.
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Oct 12 2008, 02:11 PM
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50'c++ on idle.......
u better get a better cooling system or go water cooling. |
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Oct 12 2008, 02:11 PM) its normal temps for 65nm quad + its B3 steppings.... its hotter then G0 of course....even on watercooling also hard to tame those B3s This post has been edited by lichyetan: Oct 12 2008, 02:27 PM |
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QUOTE(Ryo @ May 15 2008, 03:06 AM) so yea as the title says...which software gives the most accurate reading of a proc's temp? both can give same result...Core Temp or RealTemp? both detector must set same Tjmax.. thanks all bro here.. luv u all.. i learn something new today.. ![]() credit from me to.. all bro here and speacial to.. hilmiangah lichyetan This post has been edited by urusnet: Oct 12 2008, 03:47 PM |
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well, the question is actually wat is the tj. max of ur processor?
till now, people still argue bout the Q6600 GO, 95 or 100? 95 by real temp & 100 by core temp. |
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Oct 12 2008, 04:09 PM
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u have to set it if u are using realtemp.
use coretemp and see the tj max value then apply it to realtemp. and to urusnet You Are Welcome |
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Oct 12 2008, 09:29 PM
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y each program gave me different tem.
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Oct 12 2008, 05:09 PM) u have to set it if u are using realtemp. use coretemp and see the tj max value then apply it to realtemp. and to urusnet You Are Welcome QUOTE(CoolZeero @ Oct 12 2008, 10:29 PM) QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Oct 13 2008, 12:47 AM) its funny dat hilmiangah just mention it on the previous post & CoolZeero dun even bother 2 read it......... This post has been edited by tech3910: Oct 13 2008, 12:09 AM |
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well some people wasnt born to read.............
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wat is the tjmax for e8400 e0?
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Oct 14 2008, 09:50 AM
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but at coretemp it says 105c for tjmax. Should i follow urs?
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does EO and CO have diff TJMAx?
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Oct 14 2008, 12:30 PM
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well my coretemp show me 100 and its version 0.99.3
and my last e7200 also have tjmax value of 100 but my last e2180 have the max value of 85. |
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i also confused caz eatch program gave different tem.
so which one is rit?? |
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i think u guys shud compared wit bios 2 get the real tj. max
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 14 2008, 09:48 AM) like bro hilmi said.... it is 100 there is a official publication for it...try serch around ba QUOTE(Aura @ Oct 14 2008, 10:42 AM) Normally how many tjmax do u set to monitor ur proc's temp??? Is the settings universal for all procs??? nope....its not universal...some procs are different tjmax.....QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 14 2008, 08:08 PM) u cant do it that way la |
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QUOTE(syahirax @ Oct 15 2008, 02:30 AM) bios uses sensor in mobo? i think so........................if dats the case the bios temperature shud b consistence wit core 0 temperature in core temp. if not den adjust the tj. max This post has been edited by tech3910: Oct 15 2008, 01:40 AM |
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 15 2008, 01:39 AM) bios uses sensor in mobo? i think so........................ i think it all depends bro,because cetrain motherboard even have problems with 65nm proc,like mine.the bios doesnt accurate at allif dats the case the bios temperature shud b consistence wit core 0 temperature in core temp. if not den adjust the tj. max |
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AFAIK, RealTemp gives the most accurate temperature readings.
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question here...
is these normal?? im using TRUE 120.. these are the temps on stock core... even on my I45 CPU temp LED is showing 42c... is there something wrong here?? hsf are tighten to the max... when OCed to 4.0ghz 450x9 1.29v, idle temp is around 50c+ and load at 83c... penin alreadi looking at the temp... |
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QUOTE(casperito @ Oct 16 2008, 04:23 PM) question here... 43C on stock speed?dont u think thats a bit high.But my stock speed with ultra is around 39/40C too.is these normal?? im using TRUE 120.. these are the temps on stock core... even on my I45 CPU temp LED is showing 42c... is there something wrong here?? hsf are tighten to the max... when OCed to 4.0ghz 450x9 1.29v, idle temp is around 50c+ and load at 83c... penin alreadi looking at the temp... This post has been edited by syahirax: Oct 16 2008, 04:44 PM |
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From wikipedia
QUOTE Junction temperature is the highest temperature of the actual semiconductor in an electronic device. In operation it is higher than case temperature, the temperature of the part's exterior. The difference is equal to the amount of heat transferred from the junction to case times the junction-to-case thermal resistance. Maximum junction temperature is specified in a part's datasheet and is used when calculating the necessary case-to-ambient thermal resistance for a given power dissipation. This in turn is used to select an appropriate heat sink if necessary. If you're not sure what that means feel free to ask |
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in my case core temp show core 0 30c core 1 26c
but real temp show 40c n 36c by logic real temp is the most accurate 26c its like u have aircond your laptop or pc mobile intel core2 duo t6500(penryn-3m) |
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