any college or university in malaysia can study photography?
any short course?

I think Segi offers this course.. try checking their website

Yeah SEGi do offer this course.

Unisel too.

Why wanna take the course if you can learn from LYN

who here are good enough to teach photography?

Photography need to learn one meh?

I thought just make sure got battery and memory... and if possible some L lenses, then snap snap snap la... And can view back from the LCD... So if no good ma re-take lo...

Sorry for making this noobe statement... at least it is how we stupid people think... For our standard, enought la... But if you want good picture, maybe need to take course la...

By the way, I was told that Japan standard is high... So damn high that so hard to get a degree in photography... I knew someone already can take very good pictures on pre-digital age, but still have to downgrade to diploma because got difficulty to pass...

This post has been edited by TheVoIP: May 12 2008, 12:39 PM

No wonder Japanese girly pics all so damn chun haha I would think so too, the stds of Japanese photographers need to be high, after all Japan is the land of DSLRs

Honestly, it's always better to know the rules before you can bend them. OTOH, creativity is something very individual and cannot be learned from school. You need to look for your own style to create that impact.

For Diploma/Degree in Japan, creativity is also one of the major element in every test. In fact, I think they are asking for too much....

they are the island of asking too much.. just look at their handphones....

just buy some book and read.save more than attend a course

if u are a bumiputra, you can always go to UiTM. they offer degree in photography, though it is not an honorary degree.

then they come out with a degree in photography and can work as a certified professional photographer?

The course must have a lot of project-based modules..

Photography course not sure will it be useful for your future career. Because most photographers are self-taught and learn from books/internet. The only thing that I think is useful, is the black & white photography (where you have to do in a dark room, strong chemical smell). The rest you can learn from the internet/forums.

IMHO, I think this course is just a waste of money. You don't need a cert. to be a photographer anyway. Unless you are keen to become a photography lecturer or something.

This post has been edited by zeist: May 14 2008, 03:45 PM

a waste of money? you sure?

waste of money?
i dun think so...
the thing that actually deserves to be exchange with money is knowledge...
therefore...any knowledge is good and beneficial in one way or another....

A good course in photography (wedding, potrait, studio etc) is as good as spending on a good lens. That is why good courses are never cheap, and cheap/free courses are never good.

Advise needed.

Anyone here who is a photographer? Who works at publishing companies (newspaper, magazines, etc)? Do you all need qualification as in certificates or just a good portfolio to get the job?

(1) You need good pictures (not from PP, or else you will be joke during interview)

(2) The assignments and projects that previously involved. Bring some pictures to show. Use some story to tell them on how you judge on what's important and what's to focus on before you shoot for that occasion. The expected difficulties and how you over come.

(3) Some prizes that you had won. If you can take good pictures, getting at least one tropy a year should not be problem. Usually has certifications from various society. And of course the more difficult and regonised competion will help gain more impact.

While I do not think certificates in photography course make any impact... unless from reputable academic... something like a university from Tokyo... Thier degree standard damn high until my friend have to downgrade to diploma... If you have one, they will knee and pray you also...

This post has been edited by TheVoIP: May 14 2008, 05:29 PM

Sorry, PP?

OK, let me get this clear, does the industry really requires degree/diploma if you're going to be a photographer for publishing companies? Or they rather you have a great portfolio?

PP mean creating the effect using photoshops... rather than actually snap the pictures in original form.

Portfolio of course... unless you were interviewed by idiots la...

By the way, chinese press paid are fxxking low... It will de-motivate you in a way... try English papers first la.... Only fail, then try chinese one...

This post has been edited by TheVoIP: May 14 2008, 05:37 PM

Thanks for the useful tips/infos TheVoIP.

How much can a photographer earn on average let's say for The Star publication?

This post has been edited by ronasdfghjklzxc: May 14 2008, 05:41 PM

Forgot liao... because all my friends there gone already... Dunno who to ask... Around RM2k gao... depends on what post you are asking la... Chinese papers maybe half?

And last time they can have zero-interests-finance if you intended to purchase photography gear for your own. Not sure now still got or not?

ohh... doing a course might help u in improving your photography language. i.e. how to read an image and stuffs.

and of course, improve your english, if you wanna work in an english newspaper.

Ya... you are right... I believe learning all the basic like rule of 3rd blah blah blah might help...

Techniueq like mine no brainer shooting styles (no rules, just shoot what I like) might not work everytime...

This post has been edited by TheVoIP: May 14 2008, 06:20 PM

not only rules of third lah.
like how to read an image...

anyone of you guys here read susan sontag's on photography? or roland barthes' camera lucida?

maybe not roland barthes... but at least susan sontag's book. this is the first book on photography that you should read before holding a camera.

come on!

I did not sell my pictures... so for hobbish & foolish people like me just snap-snap-snap. Most pictures I took maybe not even need to think... hahaha... just use reflexes.. no rules also...

And I only take pictures that I like...

That's the different between a profesional that make money out of it.... and hobbist....

This post has been edited by TheVoIP: May 14 2008, 06:30 PM

Exactly, that's what I thought. By taking a course, least it could help me is in terms of professionalism. In terms of understanding the language of a photograph, etc, etc.

It's like music, a self taught musician might not know how to read musical notes.

i have a very brilliant idea.

Buy Sony Alpha gear, and go to their free courses every month

I heard there is a tutorial interactive DVD that teach you how to learn Photoshop.

I dont know about interactive but can always get those video cd that have photoshop lesson on them like the one they gave out with magazines puchase.

its not perfect buy like all things in life you have to practice, practice, practice again and again....

personally, for me, if you are to get any course to improve your skill or learn about photography, then I would say, better don't... Learn from every photo outing you can get here, and learn from the people you know who has been playing with camera long time ago or maybe some seniors? hmm...

unless, you are taking the course of Photography, for the sake of entering BIG company to be their professional photographer or something relevant, then maybe yes... You might need a certificate to get in...

Whats a "hobbist"? A brother of a hobbit?

jk

Yeah... I agree...

From my experinces, lots of people always tell you bullshit about how to take better picture by mastering the lights etc... Some even tell you that only 50mm is needed! To be frank, I think most of them dun even have ideas on what they mean.

Only from one event that I met a true practical master teach me real secret that might sound stupid to most of you; Get that damn 1D and a couple of L lenses... I now really realise what he met... The power of L lenses really make pictures standout from the rest! The amazing L color, the carity of sharpness and details and smoothness of background blur... And USM to ensure sucess rate of getting sharp pictures... It make you want to take pictures again and again to see its feel-good results... And yes, I think I do need a 1D and I know why. Now I finally started to understand his so-call silly words to many... but turn out to be actually the only practical advise.

This post has been edited by TheVoIP: May 15 2008, 11:46 AM

ya, but in fact, getting a few Ls is a must...

Then follow by 1D....

okok... stop poisoning me... haha...

but back to the topic, seriously, as what I mentioned, unless you need the certificate, else the course is not necessary if you are just for the sake of passion and hobby!

If you're interested in taking up 1-day photography course you can look in photomalaysia.com forums.. there are a couple of photographers conducting sessions on lightings etc

Each session costs like RM300-500.. expensive sial..

engtong class only rm20-30 nia. dont know hows the standard. cheap will never be good?

We are pleased to annouce the dates of the CamPro Series Photographic Workshops as follows:



* March 29th '08, Sat - GUIDE TO PHOTOGRAPHY BY KHEN LIM (RM30.00) [sign up]
1. Basic Photographic Technique
2. How to stand and hold the camera in the proper manner
3. Understanding White balance, Exposure metering, Shooting modes and Photography workflow.
* April 26th '08, Sat - COLOR MANAGEMENT (RM20.00) [sign up]
1. Understanding Colors and Printing
2. Why pictures do not match print output
3. Calibration of Monitors
(Participants may bring their Computers & Laptops for Calibration)
* May 31st, '08 Sat - HOW TO USER FILTERS (RM20.00) [sign up]
1. Types of Filters
2. Polarizers in Photography
3. Other aspects of Filters
* June 28th, '08, Sat - UNDERSTANDING LIGHT (RM30.00) [sign up]
1. Types of light
2. Measurements of light temperature, flash duration & exposure
3. Shadows in photography and ways to reduce or kill shadows
4. Light Shapers to create the pictures

http://www.engtong.com/workshops.htm

This post has been edited by JAYworm: May 15 2008, 12:22 PM

u can check out ted adnan's workshop also , he's using Sony A700

Some of their classes were quite good. I attended one where they brought in a photographer from Europe who was also Broncolor's ambasador who taught about portraiture lighting. He also had a workshop on product lighting and when they showed the prints of his work (no PP), it was amazing!

actually i was indeed referring to ted adnan

have you attended his class before?

I did once and learned quite a lot then

Thanks for all the feedback guys, but like i've mentioned in my earlier post, my desire to take up photography course/module in a professional manner is due to my desire to make photography as my career. So i'll be needing knowledge from every angle and every possibility.

Hmm, will engtong have the same workshops again next year? Just saw this and already missed the first two workshops.

Hmm from what i saw printed on an ad in TheStar, you need a degree in photography to get a job as a photographer for TheStar. thats if i remember correctly lah.was in the papers a few weeks back iianm.