That's the different between a profesional that make money out of it.... and hobbist....   

engtong class only rm20-30 nia. dont know hows the standard. cheap will never be good?

We are pleased to annouce the dates of the CamPro Series Photographic Workshops as follows:



    * March 29th '08, Sat - GUIDE TO PHOTOGRAPHY BY KHEN LIM (RM30.00) [sign up]
              1. Basic Photographic Technique
              2. How to stand and hold the camera in the proper manner
              3. Understanding White balance, Exposure metering, Shooting modes and Photography workflow.
    * April 26th '08, Sat - COLOR MANAGEMENT (RM20.00) [sign up]
              1. Understanding Colors and Printing
              2. Why pictures do not match print output
              3. Calibration of Monitors
                  (Participants may bring their Computers & Laptops for Calibration)
    * May 31st, '08 Sat - HOW TO USER FILTERS (RM20.00) [sign up]
              1. Types of Filters
              2. Polarizers in Photography
              3. Other aspects of Filters
    * June 28th, '08, Sat - UNDERSTANDING LIGHT (RM30.00) [sign up]
              1. Types of light
              2. Measurements of light temperature, flash duration & exposure
              3. Shadows in photography and ways to reduce or kill shadows
              4. Light Shapers to create the pictures

http://www.engtong.com/workshops.htm

actually i was indeed referring to ted adnan

have you attended his class before?