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enriquelee
post Nov 19 2012, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Nov 16 2012, 09:43 AM)
I check with my contractor,
if the use max 5 aircon, don't need to switch to 3 phase, as long as those aircon not ON at the same time.
Means you can switch on living room aircon first then go upstair switch on the rest of aircon one by one, then is OK.
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Yes, you are right in the sense of when you ON any appliances, the initial A can goes up to 6 times higher.
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post Nov 19 2012, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 19 2012, 10:22 AM)
Modern circuit have made some improvement and some even put in current limiter this reducing the rushin current for startup motor. Even if it go up 6x, is only few seconds.
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Yup, just a short while high peak, later it will goes back to the normal A.
That is why usually those contractor will ask the house owner try not to ON a few units of aircond at the same time.
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post Nov 19 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 19 2012, 01:40 PM)
The current rushing is not even over 1sec. Just 0.5 or less. The main fuse won't blow at all. 

All this possibility, I have conduct experiment before.
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It is possible i think, just the chance is super slim.

QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 19 2012, 01:45 PM)
Wonder how can the house owner switch on the same time? Even after power trip, the A/C auto on is also random timed, that was one of the reason the random switch on time was design.


Added on November 19, 2012, 1:47 pmAh well, maybe we have many well to do home owner, target to have lots of high HP a/c switch on, and few hundreds lights switch on daily. Ok to pay for TNB.

Maybe I should buy TNB share already smile.gif
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It is possible if 2 persons in the same house ON the aircond at the same timing. But as i mentioned earlier the chance is super slim.

Or this is one of the reason for contractor to excuse themself if something wrong happened? brows.gif
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post Nov 19 2012, 09:22 PM

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From the way it sounds like paying extra to get a 3 phase wiring is not worth while huh.
Unless the no of appliances is really huge in a house.
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post Nov 19 2012, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 19 2012, 09:25 PM)
Is not sound, is actually not worth it if your appliance are not power hunger.
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post Nov 22 2012, 09:27 AM

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Then we confirm here, 3 phases is not necessary unless under 'special' circumstances. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 22 2012, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 22 2012, 10:04 AM)
The proper way is to check your whole house electrical applicance wattage using. Than total up the wattage. Some not using everydayo, minus out.

Weikee already state that as long as it doesn't over 14,400watt total usage, you don't neeed change to 3phase.
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weikee, is this correct? unsure.gif
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post Nov 22 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 22 2012, 02:26 PM)
If consistan using 14,400 or maybe at 90% 13,000 watt than is good to change to 3 phase, but only just short spike don't need.

BTW, if using 14,400 watt, that is paying RM 5+ per hours,  if use for 3 hours perday that is paying RM 450.00 for just this 3 hours x 30 days. Add with other daily usage, minimal house hold electrical bills will go up to RM 500++
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I see.

That sounds a lot to me. But very likely some other users really paying at this quantum.

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post Nov 24 2012, 10:24 PM

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Yeah, i feel it is kind of high as well.
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post Dec 16 2012, 01:25 PM

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mccool, i feel sorry for you.
Have you find out the cause of fire? If really TNB fault, i think better go TNB by yourself rather than serving letter.
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post Nov 11 2013, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(l3iTi @ Nov 11 2013, 09:58 AM)
Not sure on this, but I guess it's Single Phase.
Cos mine is 3 Phase, I have 3 black box thingy, instead of 1
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You are right, 3 phase will have 3 cut off fuse (Black box thingy), while single phase has only 1.
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QUOTE(Lerner @ Nov 22 2013, 12:47 AM)
Noted. Thanks. I am going for 3Phase then. Easier and feel Safer on the overloading.  blush.gif
Banting Area, Still having 3Phase Promotion? will go over and apply by year end.

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Try to figure out you really need 3 phase or not. Then only make decision to upgrade. The upgrading works is not straight forward and kind of complicated.
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post Aug 29 2014, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 18 2014, 09:50 PM)
Using water heater 24/7? No right? Then no need. You only need to consider 3 phase if you are using 3 air conds all the time.
But 3 phase wiring are quite expensive to do. The good thing is, your wire can last longer since they are not stressed.
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Even using 3 aircond all the time also not necessary to get 3 Phase.
Unless you on them at the same time and all of the aircond is non converter type.
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post Aug 29 2014, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 29 2014, 07:51 AM)
Yup, that's right.
Only some mad people will on every thing at the same time.

Anyway, every January I'm getting some refund, as far as I heard, it is the deposit I put in last time(rm800).
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Ow? Got refund this kind of thing in TNB bill? 1st time hear ler
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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 29 2014, 08:05 PM)
Yup, it is stated as "pelbagai" thumbup.gif
If charge extra, I make noise, if get back money, keep quiet.
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Haha, every one will do the same la.
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post Aug 29 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Aug 29 2014, 10:04 PM)
Let's wait for another 4 months and see.
But you need to fullfill certain condition to get this, if not mistaken it will be prompt payment(now in order to get rm50 CB, every month will pay extra), use above certain limit(so in some sense you need to waste)
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I don't get what you mean. tongue.gif
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Understand now. Haha
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post Sep 20 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 16 2014, 03:06 PM)
Getting Seda? Want to sell back to TNB?
What is the goal you want? If invest to gain money, then you may think again.
I have 2 friends installed this, 1 installed long time ago and his ROI are 7%, another is lower at 3-4%
The rate is getting lower and lower now. So for cooling your house, then go ahead, if trying to make money from it, sorry, wrong tools.
After installing this solar panels(on the right direction to harvest sunlight), you will have a cooler house, your air cond cost also can come down.
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Due to sunlight being absorb by the solar panel?
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post Sep 21 2014, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 20 2014, 01:02 PM)
Yes, that's right. Or can say you got additional layer of roof.
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I see. Interesting fact.
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post Sep 21 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Sep 21 2014, 11:15 AM)
So we need to weight the solar panel installation, what do we want in the end.
Still, why we need to have quota for this? In Malaysia, we are blessed with sunlight > 180 days. Even in the rainy days, we are still getting some sunlight.
Like European countries, they are ditching fired power generation and encouraging people to use green power to generate power.
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So little? That is slightly more than half a year only wor.

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