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post May 22 2008, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 22 2008, 01:21 AM)
@hye,
Now U know it matters not - I mean with cards like the UOB ONE Platinum being offered, what would U expect of the banks?  rclxub.gif
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Hahaha .... it was a long debate on that card in the last thread. cool.gif Anyway ... I think you need your beauty sleep for the nite. Don't stay up too late ! rclxub.gif

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post May 22 2008, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ May 22 2008, 07:48 AM)
MBB Petronas Visa cardholder, do you guys receive a brochure highlighting promotions exclusively for Petronas Visa cardholder?
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Yes ... I already did. A few days back, it was the holidays promo this time.


Added on May 22, 2008, 8:48 am
QUOTE(IceBikers @ May 22 2008, 08:16 AM)
i heard applying CC thru agent, the application process is faster than approaching bank. true ar?
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1. If you applied and send the application directly to the bank's card processing centre - fastest.
2. Send it via bank branches - medium / depends on your luck. Banks gather all the documents first they want to send out before they dispatch it to the main branch.
3. Apply via credit card agent who works for the bank - medium / fast / depends on your luck. (Similar to scenario 2)
4. Apply via credit card agent - slowest / medium (and not to mention risky). An unethical agent may sell your personal details to a 3rd party without you knowing it.

My worst experience is dealing with a credit card agent was with SCB's (P**** S********) - the guy lost my application and then act as if nothing happens. I asked him where's my application and he said lost it / didn't get it / all sort of excuses. 2-3 times of follow up and then I gave up.

Another time, it was with a lady (But I can't remember for which bank) - I faxed over the docs and then she said she shifted office and don't want to go back to the old office to pick up the docs. It was difficult to get her in the first place and after strike 3 - you're out!

Thank god I don't have to deal with credit card agents these days + if I do see something like that I won't apply already. So, you still want to apply via agent ?

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post May 22 2008, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 22 2008, 10:43 PM)
I've got to check about the administration cost re using the Credit Card out of MY.  Folks been travelling a lot and I been swiping quite a bit so I might as well use the one that gives me the best rates.  So far, I've been using UOB and the rates seem to be quite alright smile.gif
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Plenty of interesting developments over the last 24 hours I see. Anyway, just let your folks enjoy their holidays but in the meantime, i think you are about to clean your credit card accounts.

I agree with ya - the CL that they offer to you is simply ridiculous. I wouldn't have accept it myself.

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post May 23 2008, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(fikrie @ May 23 2008, 09:08 AM)
Correct me if i'm wrong, doesnt AMEX charge interest the next day after u swipe the card..?? so, it keeps accumulating till the statement date.. m i rite?? dun hav any AMEX, but that was wat my frens told me..
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Nope ... you got your info all wrong. icon_question.gif There's 2 types of AMEX in Malaysia - credit card and debit card (both issued by MBB as they bought over AMEX operations sometime back)

- Credit card version functions similar to a normal typical credit card. You won't be charged interest unless you don't pay in full when the billing cycle comes.
- Charge (edited) card version you need to pay in full. Else you'll be charged a penalty for it (I'm not sure about the interest on the unpaid balance)

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post May 23 2008, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 23 2008, 11:57 AM)
Actually AMEX do offer 2 kinds of card. You got it right for credit card, but not the second one. They only offer credit card and charge card, not debit card.
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You are right about that ... my mistake. Corrected it already.
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post May 24 2008, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(moonstone13 @ May 24 2008, 04:02 PM)
I was wondering if there are a wide selection of choices for fresh graduates who just started to work (without 3-month payslip documentation)?

What about for those with no income statements (say..housewives)?
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For fresh graduates, they can try to apply using 1 month payslip. Probably if they are working for big companies, the banks will see this as lower risk but if they are working for smaller companies then very difficult to get approval.

Banks will ask for any proof of income and this demonstrate the person ability to pay off their expenses. So if that is non-existent then I doubt so any banks will issue this group a credit card.
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post May 24 2008, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(moonstone13 @ May 24 2008, 11:46 PM)
Interesting read up on the direct access card though. I wonder if the rate of success is high with an application with less than 3 months pay-slip.

Thinking of applying a credit card before flying off to attend my very own convocation in August. A credit card would be handy instead of carrying a stack of cash. Will start work with Shell in June/July (depending how fast HR can process my particulars).

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My advise is just try your luck, you may never know if you managed to get 1 pay slip. Just be forewarned, most banks will have in their application form your employer's details and probably one of the info they'll ask is that how long you have been with them. *Hint*

It can't hurt to be patient (just carry cash for your convo) just a little bit longer since you have came this far. Congrats on your convo ! thumbup.gif


On another note .... I wonder if any of the banks are taking notice of all of our complaints in this forum. Some of our CS experiences are horrifying enough and probably the banks would want to take note. unsure.gif
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post May 25 2008, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 25 2008, 12:16 AM)
@hye,
I doubt the banks have personnels on forums to read up on their bad/good CS.  On a separate note, I sent out the letter to Citibank - I also pointed out the issue I had with corresponding with them and not hearing from them [I highlighted a case of which I sent in a letter 7 years ago asking for an explanation when my request for a temporary increase in credit limit was rejected; of which I have yet to receive a reply till now].  I ended my letter telling them I hope I didn't have to wait 7 years for a reply.

Most importantly, I said not to take my 2 page letter as a complain, instead feedback!  laugh.gif
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Very courageous of you to send such letter ! rclxm9.gif One of the answers that I hate so much is whenever the bank rejected your card application, credit limit increase (temporary/permanent), etc (you get the picture). They always blame it on the management - such answers like "The management have decided not to approve your application" or "It's the management's decision" is always the norm. To me this sounds very impersonal + lots of people out there who's well educated and they'll know it's just a lame excuse.

Anyone with similar experiences ?
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post May 26 2008, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 25 2008, 11:15 PM)
@jchong,
Letting us know why our application isn't approved isn't asking them to give us their trade secrets - it could be as simple as:-
1) U aren't earning enough so we can't give U the increase in credit limit
2) U are owing banks too much $ and deem as high credit risk
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Yeah, I agree with ya. We have the right to know as we're not asking about someone else's account! It's ours! vmad.gif I've came across this scenario one too many times in my lifetime.
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post May 26 2008, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 26 2008, 10:56 PM)
*looks at sis's queue*
*looks at her own queue*
*shakes her head*  unsure.gif
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@tinkerbel
Post a picture of yourself and maybe your queue will grow exponentially as well. icon_idea.gif

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post May 27 2008, 07:29 AM

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Is it true that banks would be able to see all the credit cards (and perhaps all our loans) that we own and its credit limit ?

If this is true, is the system updated on a daily basis ? E.g the moment let's say I cancel my card today with one bank, the info would be updated on the fly and the information disappears from other banks view's almost immediately ?
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post May 28 2008, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(babylabbit @ May 28 2008, 06:46 PM)
p/s: n u will get a call back ask why cancel just say something lo ahhaha...dont ever agree again coz they very effective to send u back a new card smile.gif
Strangely the banks never came back to me to offer a new card whenever I cancel their cards. hmm.gif
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post May 28 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(zenquix @ May 28 2008, 10:22 PM)
When I was in retail, Mastercard was more accepted locally as its commission charges were lower than Visa. Not sure whether it is still the case.
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Someone told me it's the same for both VISA and Mastercard these days. Except of course for AMEX and Diners. Anyone here who can confirm this information ?
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post May 29 2008, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Shinichi @ May 29 2008, 10:53 PM)
Hi all,

Isit true that if we put extra money into our credit card, we can cash advance to withdraw the money without any charge?

Thanks.
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Nope ... you'll still be charged for the Cash Advance fee.
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post May 29 2008, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ May 29 2008, 10:57 PM)
@hye,
But no interest will be charged, right?
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@tinkerbel
From my understanding of how Cash Advance works is that it charges you a fee the moment you use the facility which is about (Using HSBC as an example) 5% of the amount withdrawn or a minimum of RM15. (Whichever is higher) In addition they'll charge you a 1.5% per month admin fee from the very day you withdraw the money.

OK ... so assuming you have no retail spending and the amount that you withdraw (Cash Advance) is less than the money that you have deposited, I think you shouldn't be charged the interest. If your "extra cash" is not enough to cover the withdrawal than you'll definitely be charged interest on the difference.
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post May 30 2008, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(Shinichi @ May 29 2008, 11:00 PM)
Hmmm I thought we will not be charged since we owe them nothing?

Anyway what if I were to cancel my card and there are money in it?
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@Shinichi
You can no longer use your card but the bank will not be automatically be refunded to you. Nor will you earn any interest on the extra money that you in your credit card account.

My examples came from some else I know and even I myself kept on receiving the monthly statement from AEON credit card although I have canceled it between 1-2 years ago. It's the same scenario - cancel card but you have overpaid. The bank will keep that money until you ask for a refund.

BTW ... I think I sent a letter to AEON requesting them to refund that cash but for many months they have never replied to my mail. Re affirms my opinion that I would not ever want to apply for an AEON credit card ever again. It's the worst credit card that I've ever used, PERIOD.
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Jun 1 2008, 11:40 AM)
is UOB cc reward points can accumulated like citibank? biggrin.gif
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No ... UOB rewards point are not evergreen. Means, they have an expiry date unlike Citibank.


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QUOTE(sohaix @ Jun 1 2008, 11:46 AM)
i got a questions, im earning more or less 48-50k per annum and i have submitted my pay slips and epf statements to UOB. they gave me a UOB One card with 4k cc limit. i been using this card for about 5 months alreadu and i dont understand why every time i request for a cc limit increase i get rejected. i been working for a year but i dont have a full year EA form. is that the reason why they are reluctant to increase my limit? i spend the max limit just to force them to increase my cc limit but still no results. can anyone give me any tips or tricks to increase my limit? the only reason why im keeping this card is because of the free annual fee and i like the statement date.
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Just to add what David83 mentioned, you could also try to apply from other banks (e.g HSBC, UOB) and see what credit limit they give you. If the alternative banks give you more credit limit then you can consider terminating UOB if they still don't upgrade your credit limit after 1 year.

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post Jun 3 2008, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(*devilelle* @ Jun 3 2008, 02:13 PM)
actually you can call the card centre to ask why if you insist to know the reason
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From my experience, with the exception of CIMB - all other banks will tell you "It's the management decision to reject your application". You can force the CS to tell you but I doubt so they will tell you the reasons or in most cases will the information be available to them via their CS screens that they have in front of them when they are speaking to you.
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post Jun 3 2008, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(yks8845 @ Jun 3 2008, 05:26 PM)
a nood question here, what does those stars dot on citibank credit card front mean ?
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Yeah ... since you mentioned it I wondered why as well ?
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post Jun 4 2008, 09:36 PM

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If I'm not mistaken, I came across a recent advertisement that says EON cc now offer 2% rebate for petrol purchases as well. This puts them on par with DA cards.

Anyone here saw that advert too ? (tinkerbel maybe ? .... active guest here)

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