tak jugak. as long as fans strongly support their team (like barca..on this difficult time)...sponsor still coming becoz they know there's till a huge of potential buyer. (also other clubs like..the kops..milanisti..juvenitti..culers..madridista etc..etc) . even my team lost 10-11 in row..i'm still support my team becoz i'm always believe we'll strike back on the next (or another) season.

as long as you win, your football is beautiful.
if you lose, no matter how beautiful your football is, your club owner stil regard it as ugly

yes, for football sake, we really need beautifull football.. i personally dislike the negative way of playing football and the so called long pass type team (bolton, liverpool, england, greece). they play for the result only.. they did forget that fans pay ticket to be entertained.. i dont think that a true loyal fan will be very dissapointed if their team did'nt win anything but play a good attractive football. it is the manager and coaches job to win matches using good atrractive football. thats what make a difference between coaches. people like sir alex, arsene, rijkaard and a few more know how to make the team play beautifull football. i am pretty sure, that every football players in this world like to play a good football including us, but then again they need to listen on how their manager want they to play. the main culprit that that damage the beautifull football is those manager who afraid that by playing a good football will cost their job. message to all those managers, if you dont know how to make your team win matches by playing beautifull football, for football sake, please resign..

With all due respect you weren't exactly an average side back then. Games between our two clubs were already competitive. You had good players like Jim Leighton, Paul Parker, Gary Pallister, Steve Bruce, Dennis Irwin, Ryan Giggs, Bryan Robson, Paul Ince, Lee Sharpe, Mark Hughes and Brian McClair in the side. Not bad by any stretch of the imagination and I'm sure you'd agree. If not because we were such a strong side back then I would say that your side underachieved in the 80's.

Dude I don't mean to be picky but we aren't "the kops". You won't like it if I called you "the Stretford Ends" right?

giggs and irwin wasn't there yet. ince, mc clair, parker and hughes. yepp.
gary pallister entertain me with his run back to defend the line.  thats it!
agree with you, but liverpool was just too formidable back then 

err.... sorry about the kops.  it was supposed to be the short form of the kopites.