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Discussion Beautiful Footbal? Do you really need it?

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post May 2 2008, 11:31 AM

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changing pace and tempo of the game when an opponent pressure out team... actually i felt like football can produce more than one style in one game.. for the first 30 minutes, one team will produce beautiful football while the opponent trying to keep the pace. when the game enters 35 minutes of gameplay, the mood and style usually has changed.. they were in the tempo of scoring goals... total football is needed somehow but when the opponent start to produce their pattern of attacking, no more beautiful football will be practices.. that's why on that time we can see the passes will be given away.. player doesn't really communicate like they way the used before...fast break, tight defenses and more aerial attacks in the game.. in football. 3 points is what u want to earn...
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post May 2 2008, 12:25 PM

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If Arsenal don't play beautiful football, I wouldn't have watched soccer for so many years. It's the beautiful playing style that attracts me most,otherwise, football is plain tedious to watch,isn't it?


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in the modern / commercial era football, it's better to win ugly rather than losing beautifully.
a lot of team are playing ugly in order to progress to the next stage just to earn their fair bit of the lucrative commercial / tv deal.
can't blame 'em though....

btw, i'd like my favourite team to win ugly and bagged the 3 points rather than losing 4 - 3.
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post May 2 2008, 12:33 PM

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if you love beautiful football u just assume football as entertainment.. for me football is my life.. i can't live without football.. i grew up with football.. the game is all about winning and scoring goals.. i cant accept if my team playing beautiful football but losing the game.. it's all about tactic.. sometimes u need to play defensive and sometimes u need to play offensive.. it's all depends on the opponent.. even a team like derby could produce entertaining football sometimes.. as long as u win the game, the way we play is doesn't matter.. there's no award for the most beautiful play team of the year.
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post May 2 2008, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(verx @ May 2 2008, 09:35 AM)
I don't believe that playing entertaining football and winning titles are exclusive to each other. And to just give examples of Barcelona and Arsenal is just showing one side of the coin. Man Utd and Real Madrid are currently top of their respective leagues and they both have played entertaining football this season. It is possible to play good football and be effective at the same time.
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But thats the only title for RM this season maybe. They lost Copa del rey and UCL. As for MU, they have to abandoned their style when facing Barca in UCL. They also lost the FA Cup and CC. For BPL, if Arsenal only concentrate on the league, they might still chasing MU and Chelsea for the title I guess.

For what I am seeing, to play beautiful football, a team must have a big squad, like having equally two good players in every positions. Or else they should concentrate on one title only. To play a short pasess, it requires a lot of stamina. Players must keep running all over the pitch. Fatigue and injury will be a big problem at the end of the season if they're taking part in most of the tournaments.
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QUOTE(bwan @ May 2 2008, 12:45 PM)
But thats the only title for RM this season maybe. They lost Copa del rey and UCL. As for MU, they have to abandoned their style when facing Barca in UCL. They also lost the FA Cup and CC. For BPL, if Arsenal only concentrate on the league, they might still chasing MU and Chelsea for the title I guess.

For what I am seeing, to play beautiful football, a team must have a big squad, like having equally two good players in every positions. Or else they should concentrate on one title only. To play a short pasess, it requires a lot of stamina. Players must keep running all over the pitch. Fatigue and injury will be a big problem at the end of the season if they're taking part in most of the tournaments.
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That's the only title for us yes..but it's also the only one which rewards consistency. Cup games are cup games. And yes while MU abandoned their style in the CL semi final I don't think you can just conclude that playing defensive is the only way to win titles. Milan last season scored plenty of goals. Barca won in 2006. I think if you dig up the statistics of previous winners; majority of them are attacking sides.

As for big squads, that's a requirement if you want to challenge for titles in the modern era regardless of style. And i dunno about short passing requiring more stamina. Long ball teams give the ball away alot and tend to struggle to keep possession. And they generally have to run alot to cover the space. So it all equals out for me.
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I want my team to play beautiful so that i will be entertained. But i'll take the trophies above anything.

Conclusion: trophies > entertainment
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It is always great if the team you support plays beautiful football just like how Liverpool played during the McManaman era. Yes, beautiful football is nice but in the end it is the points and trophy's that matters most.
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Winning is the main objective, and then comes the art of perfecting, which is achieving the objective while doing it gracefully. I view it that way.
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if you hate it when Greece won the cup, you a person that love beautiful football

and i'm one of them
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winning is a must, style is a bonus ^^
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The reason i support United is cos of the football we play. Rival fans maybe cant find themselves to agree with it, but at one point of time, it was undeniable that we were the best side in the league to produce such exquisite style and flair on the ball. Id take beautiful football anyday over results. Thats the way i am. I cant imagine United winning the league Greece-esque. Id never be satisfied cos there'd be nothing to reflect upon. Same reason why i hate to watch chelsea (except against Utd last weekend and Lpool in midweek). Under mourinho they were always playing effective football and i detest that approach, but it worked for em and it brought them trophies. Their style under grant isnt so monotonous so its better.

Like wat verx said, theres a reason why United and Madrid are on top of the league. Goals bring u the points home, and to get goals u gota have that attacking flair. United adopt this approach, and thats why United are on top with only a healthy goal difference. That goal difference is a result of the attackng mindset.

When need requires, United wud definitely revert to the 4-5-1 (ex. Nou Camp). As long as they dont do it on a consistent basis, im already satisfied.

As Queiroz said after winning the title last season, "The neutrals wudve definitely wanted us to win, it would have been injustice to football if otherwise."
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i like the way football style been produce by any team as it is. i'll be bored if all team in this planet play beautiful style or all team play boring style.
every team is unique, some play defensive and some play offensive passing style that's why we enjoy watching football.


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post May 2 2008, 10:14 PM

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beautiful football was what attracted me to the game in the first place and it might sound weird, but i'd rather see arsenal play their beautiful football every week than play boring and win. i watch coz of the game and not just the win...
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QUOTE(kaka91 @ May 2 2008, 10:14 PM)
beautiful football was what attracted me to the game in the first place and it might sound weird, but i'd rather see arsenal play their beautiful football every week than play boring and win. i watch coz of the game and not just the win...
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typical arsenal fans rclxms.gif
I guess most of the arsenal fans love watching soccer because of its aesthetic value.
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beautiful is not just for entertain spot.. but more for a way a player control the ball.. like cantona said.. make the ball happy..

players and the ball will connect to each other.. which side that ball are well suited... which side are the ball will control to the best form... and which side the ball should be place not only flying on the air.. tongue.gif (i dont talk about epl) cuz arsenal have beautiful football too...

sometimes when the team not play good passing.. not good accuracy.. it wasnt beauty.. will make the ball go no where.. some boring...

if we look for our local team a couples years ago, or a long - long time ago blush.gif .. we have selangor, pahang, kelantan, sarawak and penang play beautiful football too.. smile.gif

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why do u think there are so many people around the world watching football while other sports are not as popular..
because football is fun to watch...
if u take away the beauty of the game, its like football with no life..
and thats not football...
there's a reason why capello got fired while winning the la liga in his first attempt..get wat i mean?
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fluid passing and attacking game in a fast pace can be very entertaining..it is more like attracting the opponents to keep up with the tempo..is beautiful football is what i am attracted to? well define what is beautiful football in the first place, is it fluid passing and attacking in a fast pace like what arsenal did..? My answer is no.beautiful football is attractive football in all departments, be it attacking or defending..Arsenal do play fast attacking football but what about defending? sometimes it can be very frustrating to let in simple goal after u score an excellent goal..if u win the game playing beautiful football, u deserve it, but if u win the playing negative football, do u think u will happy in the end when others says that it is just lucky, it is just ur day or ur opponents is off form..can u accept that as a hardcore fans..?..i do agree sometimes we need to accept that trophy is what matter most..and different strategy cater to different match, but to play eye-catching football is one that i am looking forward to..eye-catching in very department...fast attacking with fluid passing, with solid defending as well as good tactics..it comes in a package..
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if u wanna watch beautiful football, then watch joga bonito, nikefootball.com

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QUOTE(whirlwind @ May 2 2008, 08:38 PM)
if you hate it when Greece won the cup, you a person that love beautiful football

and i'm one of them
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I maybe wrong.. but the same way goes to italy when they won 2006 WC. whistling.gif

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