Aug 1 2008, 04:20 PM
QUOTE(chatwarrior @ Aug 1 2008, 03:49 PM)
As you can see from my posts all along, I am trying to caution everyone since the OP made use of this forum to PROMOTE(although he claimed SHARE) a scheme that is highly suspicious and I have also highlighted that the way he(OP) is putting up information here is EXACTLY the same manner how past scams worked. My opinions was being challenged and my point of bringing up that Steven's Corner business in Pandan Indah has dropped being one of the reason they have to go into such a scheme because that is what I have heard from them when I was initially approached to get involved with them. Athough legally speaking, Steven Tea's Garden & Steven's Corner are 2 seperate entities; it's a known fact that this STG scheme is being promoted with the use of history & record of SC, thus strengthen the fact that whoever promoting this STG has not been very sincere or honest(read on to my last paragraph on new findings).
As for personal attacks issue, it is clear it only come from Devil2, a newcomer to support SiliCON when it is clear that no one else in this thread actually trust or feel secure about the scheme. It can be clearly seen that Devil2's existence and behaviour of using personal attacks is in the hope of provoking me into having same behaviour like him so that the moderators can BAN us both. If he can achieve that; than OP and/or STG can safely continue to promote this scheme without any stumbling block.
Why am I so sure of this ? Simple; Devil2 started by challenging me into a bet with stalk mentioned. I reacted by giving him adequate time and chance to prove himself if his bet or challenge is sincere. I asked him just do one simple task first before I waste time or effort falling into his trick(I have heard enough of swindlers supporting such scams calling for bets and challenges in order to fool people into believing them). That is:
Put up his agreement(don't matter to me who did it for him, as long as it is valid, legal and secure to me) here first for all to see BUT as usual, he twist and turn. Isn't this good enough to prove that Devil2 is not a person to be trusted ? So how can we simply trust his opinions in all his messages ?
Latest news here. One of my friend was invited to their marketing session and he was told exactly the same way as our OP promoted; his investment money will be secure because SC has so many years of history, business magazines wrote so favourably about them, they have many new outlets coming up and agreement will be given to him. This is where the whole trick gave way. My friend asked for a copy of the agreement to read first. They are reluctant to show, just said it will be signed when payment is made. My friend insisted that he sees the agreement first. Finally they showed it. After reading through, my friend find some conditions that is totally in favour of the Company, among them, it give the Company full rights to change any condition anytime in the future; and he give the excuse that he don't understand law very well and need to consult his lawyer first. The STG people wasn't so happy and asked why should my friend consult a lwayer when that agreement is actually prepared by lawyer. Then my friend insisted on it and they have no choice but to obliged. FINALLY, when my friend wanted to leave and ask for a copy of the agreement so that he can consult his lawyer, the request was REJECTED. Right away, my friend smell scam. Do I need to write more ?
Again, I wish to caution everyone that from my research and observations, I smelled SCAM and don't ask me to prove it(just read all my old posts in this thread), don't ask me why I don't make a police report or why they are still allowed to carry on buisness. Just remember that when the time comes for police to take action(especially in Malaysia) it's already too late. More people would have lost their money(like SWISSCASH, Sunshine & Seaweed etc). So we just do what we can do now.
I will expect more flaming and personal attacks from someone in the hope that the moderators will close this thread so that it will not bring more awareness to others. I hope the moderators will not close this useful thread.
my oh my, just look at this poor guy, he has been shot down by me and then he try to set up a new thread to redeem his pride, but end up he was shot again in his own thread and now here he comes again, back to this thread to try and save his own ass.As for personal attacks issue, it is clear it only come from Devil2, a newcomer to support SiliCON when it is clear that no one else in this thread actually trust or feel secure about the scheme. It can be clearly seen that Devil2's existence and behaviour of using personal attacks is in the hope of provoking me into having same behaviour like him so that the moderators can BAN us both. If he can achieve that; than OP and/or STG can safely continue to promote this scheme without any stumbling block.
Why am I so sure of this ? Simple; Devil2 started by challenging me into a bet with stalk mentioned. I reacted by giving him adequate time and chance to prove himself if his bet or challenge is sincere. I asked him just do one simple task first before I waste time or effort falling into his trick(I have heard enough of swindlers supporting such scams calling for bets and challenges in order to fool people into believing them). That is:
Put up his agreement(don't matter to me who did it for him, as long as it is valid, legal and secure to me) here first for all to see BUT as usual, he twist and turn. Isn't this good enough to prove that Devil2 is not a person to be trusted ? So how can we simply trust his opinions in all his messages ?
Latest news here. One of my friend was invited to their marketing session and he was told exactly the same way as our OP promoted; his investment money will be secure because SC has so many years of history, business magazines wrote so favourably about them, they have many new outlets coming up and agreement will be given to him. This is where the whole trick gave way. My friend asked for a copy of the agreement to read first. They are reluctant to show, just said it will be signed when payment is made. My friend insisted that he sees the agreement first. Finally they showed it. After reading through, my friend find some conditions that is totally in favour of the Company, among them, it give the Company full rights to change any condition anytime in the future; and he give the excuse that he don't understand law very well and need to consult his lawyer first. The STG people wasn't so happy and asked why should my friend consult a lwayer when that agreement is actually prepared by lawyer. Then my friend insisted on it and they have no choice but to obliged. FINALLY, when my friend wanted to leave and ask for a copy of the agreement so that he can consult his lawyer, the request was REJECTED. Right away, my friend smell scam. Do I need to write more ?
Again, I wish to caution everyone that from my research and observations, I smelled SCAM and don't ask me to prove it(just read all my old posts in this thread), don't ask me why I don't make a police report or why they are still allowed to carry on buisness. Just remember that when the time comes for police to take action(especially in Malaysia) it's already too late. More people would have lost their money(like SWISSCASH, Sunshine & Seaweed etc). So we just do what we can do now.
I will expect more flaming and personal attacks from someone in the hope that the moderators will close this thread so that it will not bring more awareness to others. I hope the moderators will not close this useful thread.
for those who're new to this thread, do read back all the past posting to understand what's going on. dont just read this lame ass mr.chat's so called 'summary'. he'll always crap about this and that without having any concrete facts, and he's just looking for some lame excuses to avoid my challenge. may i know what's the point of putting up an agreement HERE if it's certainly NOT valid as there's no signature or lawyer involve? if he's SINCERE enough, i would be getting his particular by now.
if you want to have such a SIMPLE agreement, then here it is : we bet rm50k on whether STG will survive for 2 years. If they cant then i'll pay you rm50k, if they can then you'll have to pay me rm50k. deal?
if you wanted a proper agreement by LAWYER then just send me your particular! lame duck!
Added on August 1, 2008, 4:24 pm
QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 1 2008, 04:06 PM)
Public out there is not blind or foolish. People have their own judgement after reading information and facts. So if really want to help people stay out from scam out there, then posting information and with critical view and opinion, then people will find a way to judge already.
Just put up facts and real information you have, don't need to have personal confrontation. By then this thread will become more informative to others. A truth is always a truth, a scam remains a scam. Well informed people can easily spot it out. So just put up information you got and critical view is good enough to help poeple out there.
Above is just a general statement, nothing related to STG scheme issue.
sorry bro, i'll have to post another useless post for this lame duck. but anyway, what you say is right, we should be talking about facts here, not just making up some stories just to tarnish STG.Just put up facts and real information you have, don't need to have personal confrontation. By then this thread will become more informative to others. A truth is always a truth, a scam remains a scam. Well informed people can easily spot it out. So just put up information you got and critical view is good enough to help poeple out there.
Above is just a general statement, nothing related to STG scheme issue.
This post has been edited by Devil2: Aug 1 2008, 04:24 PM
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