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post Apr 27 2008, 10:23 PM, updated 18y ago

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Which movie that you watch in cinema that the ending is different from your DVD.

Let me start with one movie that has a different ending from the movie and the DVD.

SPL - Sha Po Lang.

Cinema Ending - It ends where Donnie Yen beat Samo Hung.
DVD Ending - Donnie Yen and his family were accidentally killed by Samo Hung .

Never trusted Cinema Film in Malaysia anymore.

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post Apr 27 2008, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Apr 27 2008, 10:23 PM)
Which movie that you watch in cinema that the ending is different from your DVD.

Let me start with one movie that has a different ending from the movie and the DVD.

SPL - Sha Po Lang.

Cinema Ending - It ends where Donnie Yen beat Samo Hung.
DVD Ending - Donnie Yen and his family were accidentally killed by Samo Hung .

Never trusted Cinema Film in Malaysia anymore.
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Perhaps that was the director's cut/alternate ending on the dvd? It's not our Malaysian cinema's fault if the ending is different, it might be the theatrical version.
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post Apr 27 2008, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Apr 27 2008, 10:23 PM)
Which movie that you watch in cinema that the ending is different from your DVD.

Let me start with one movie that has a different ending from the movie and the DVD.

SPL - Sha Po Lang.

Cinema Ending - It ends where Donnie Yen beat Samo Hung.
DVD Ending - Donnie Yen and his family were accidentally killed by Samo Hung .

Never trusted Cinema Film in Malaysia anymore.
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It's because maybe the DVD you bought was the HK version ending...

It's the same for Infernal Affairs. Even if you bought the DVD in Malaysia (Msia edition le), the ending will still be the same : When Andy Lau stepped out of the elevator, he was arrested as a mole for the triads. In the HK version, Andy Lau got away with it - claiming that he found out the real mole (I suddenly forgot his name, sorry sweat.gif) and killed him after the mole killed Tony Leung.

The reason for the different version in this case is because the Malaysian censorship board will not allow a movie where the 'bad guy' gets away with it. In order to please the censorship board, they refilm a different version.

And do you know, because of the Malaysia version ending, they added a new scene in Infernal Affairs III - The police apologized to Andy Lau for mistaking him as a mole and reinstated him (this is so viewers won't get confused as to why he's still in the police force after being arrested in IA I). Whereas in the HK version, there's none because he was never arrested in the first place.

There are several crime movies that have different endings in Malaysia and HK. That's why if my friends go over to HK, I always tumpang them to buy me some of the DVD titles. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 27 2008, 11:38 PM

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Ekin Cheng in Young and Dangerous is a undercover police posing as a triad mole in Hung Hing secret society. The entire part 1-3 has different ending with added scenes of Ekin as policeman. smile.gif
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post Apr 27 2008, 11:39 PM

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anyone remember young and dangerous? ekin cheng suddenly is an undercover cop doh.gif Guess they dont want youngsters watching to join the triads tongue.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 07:45 AM

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You guys remember which part started showing that Ekin was actually a mole? If I'm not mistaken, should be around part 5, is it? I don't remember seeing the additional scenes in the VCDs that I bought donkey years ago.
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:15 AM

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wah this is interesting, keep it coming. we can get the movie once we know there are a few ending.
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post Apr 28 2008, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Apr 27 2008, 11:00 PM)
The reason for the different version in this case is because the Malaysian censorship board will not allow a movie where the 'bad guy' gets away with it. In order to please the censorship board, they refilm a different version.
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How about Hollywood / English movies? e.g. Arlington Road ... I didn't watch it in cinema last time.
Definitely Hollywood studios won't refilm a different ending just to please Malaysian censorship board. Remember Steven Spielberg's Schindler's List? When the board wanted to cut some parts (not really about the ending lah, sorry, off-topic), Spielberg pull it off Malaysian cinemas; he rather it was shown in full, or none at all.

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post Apr 28 2008, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Apr 28 2008, 07:45 AM)
You guys remember which part started showing that Ekin was actually a mole? If I'm not mistaken, should be around part 5, is it? I don't remember seeing the additional scenes in the VCDs that I bought donkey years ago.
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Y&D is retitled as New Police Story. Original poster of them carrying weapons is censored. I think part1-4 all the movies got scenes EKin talking to his police superior as undercover.
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QUOTE(r2t2 @ Apr 28 2008, 09:45 AM)
How about Hollywood / English movies? e.g. Arlington Road ... I didn't watch it in cinema last time.
Definitely Hollywood studios won't refilm a different ending just to please Malaysian censorship board.  Remember Steven Spielberg's Schindler's List? When the board wanted to cut some parts (not really about the ending lah, sorry, off-topic), Spielberg pull it off Malaysian cinemas; he rather it was shown in full, or none at all.
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same with saving private ryan laugh.gif say TAK NAK 2 local censorship rclxms.gif
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post Apr 28 2008, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Apr 28 2008, 10:13 AM)
Y&D is retitled as New Police Story. Original poster of them carrying weapons is censored. I think part1-4 all the movies got scenes EKin talking to his police superior as undercover.
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Sei lor, I don't have any recollection of Ekin talking to his superiors in pt 1-3. I guess the VCDs that I bought last time was the HK version. I do remember seeing Ekin talking to his superior in either pt4 or pt5 tho and yes.. I bought that in Speedy.

Talking bout Arlington Road - it's been ages since I last watched it. Thanks for reminding me of the movie.

Censorship due to 'violence'/'gore' is one thing - refilming the ending is another. Kinda spoils the movie, IMO.
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QUOTE(chibi_tenko @ Apr 28 2008, 11:17 AM)
Sei lor, I don't have any recollection of Ekin talking to his superiors in pt 1-3. I guess the VCDs that I bought last time was the HK version. I do remember seeing Ekin talking to his superior in either pt4 or pt5 tho and yes.. I bought that in Speedy.

Talking bout Arlington Road - it's been ages since I last watched it. Thanks for reminding me of the movie.

Censorship due to 'violence'/'gore' is one thing - refilming the ending is another. Kinda spoils the movie, IMO.
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Well, I remember Arlington Road while watching it on rented VHS (gasp!) coz my sister didn't like the ending .. she said how can the bad guys get away with it, not fair lah .. hahah .. but I think it's a great movie to think about.

Yeap, alternate endings in order to be politically (or is it legally) correct and to please the authority kinda undermined the filmmakers' creativity. Alternate endings on DVDs due to director's and studio creative difference, that's ok lah.
Like that, The Bank Job sure won't be screened here lah, even if the 18-SX scenes were censored. brows.gif

So far, it's like HK movies are the 'victims' - Y&D 1, IA 1, SPL, ...anymore? How about other triads movies, Election (was it shown in local cinemas?)? Jiang Hu leh? (The 'real' bad guys got away with it oso woh ... they should've made Andy & Jacky's characters 'recover' and co-operate with the police to bring down other tai lous, heheh).

I think China also require similar 'goody' endings; I watched Internal Affairs I on China XingKong channel before (Mandarin dubbed), and Andy's character was cuffed in the end too ... and yeah, 1st time I watched Young & Dangerous 1 was on local TV ... the ending was like, what the heck? So abrupt and got discontinuity.

Got double standard or not ah? Ocean Eleven/12/13 kind of Hollywood movies (feel good, not too realistic) can be shown in Malaysian cinemas without modification.

Nice topic, my friends and I often bring this up too when talking about these HK films during lim tehs.
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post Apr 28 2008, 04:41 PM

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If bad guys can't win, how come The Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith got screened here?
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post Apr 28 2008, 04:43 PM

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1st ending : Takashi killed Andy Lau and got away wif it in the end wif the girl.... <-- should be the actual ending by the directing team...

2nd ending : Andy Lau killed Takashi and surrender to the cops that's already waiting outside of the warehouse where the final duel took place.... <-- to please all the Asian Andy Lau supporters (namely HK viewers)
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post Apr 28 2008, 10:01 PM

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Descent have two ending too. cant remember already.
one ending . the heroin got trapped and left to die -british ending
second ending, the heroin manage to escape - american ending.
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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Apr 28 2008, 04:43 PM)
Full time Killer

1st ending : Takashi killed Andy Lau and got away wif it in the end wif the girl.... <-- should be the actual ending by the directing team...

2nd ending : Andy Lau killed Takashi and surrender to the cops that's already waiting outside of the warehouse where the final duel took place.... <-- to please all the Asian Andy Lau supporters (namely HK viewers)
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Eh? I think it's not because they want to please Andy Lau's fans. He died alot of times in his movies, so being killed in the end is nothing. The fact that Takashi got away with it - hence the 'bad guy gets away and the girl'. FTK is about two assassins trying to outsmart (or so I think - never really like that movie) each other. The alternate ending (aka Malaysia) is that Andy killed Takashi and gleefully surrendered himself afterwards.

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post Apr 28 2008, 11:32 PM

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I got a few movies wanna mention as well...

(I) Fearless (extended version) scenes which u dun see in cinema or Malaysia's DVD

- Begining part,Datuk Michelle Yeoh as commitee of olympic council member who try to proposed to bring Wushu as one of Olympic sport.The reason why is bcos of 1 man back in 100 years ago which is Huo Yuan Jia then the stories goes to Jet Li scenes.

- During Huo Yuan Jia's family is been murdered,he left tian jin and went to a Yun Nam village.There is a scene where Jet Li Vs Muay Thai fighter.

- If u still remember Jet Li won in a match which is on a top stage (vs his old rival), jet li gave him the "fist of huo's family book" and end up tat rival become his student.

- At the ending, Datuk Michelle Yeoh end her speech and there is a reporter ask her opinion tat "do u think the olmpic council will approve her proposal,she said it's up to them"


(II) The Punisher (extended version) total time 2 hrs++, malaysian cinema or DVD only 1hr 45mins

- Frank Castle found out the person who betray him which is 1 of the police offcer, his ex-partner/ team mate.End up, he ask ex-team mate to kill himself.

- At the ending, after avenge for his family death. Frank Castle plan to kill himself but stopped after he saw his wife soul which is she's trying to ask him not to do tat.

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QUOTE(b3rnard7 @ Apr 28 2008, 03:32 PM)

(II) The Punisher (extended version) total time 2 hrs++, malaysian cinema or DVD only 1hr 45mins

- Frank Castle found out the person who betray him which is 1 of the police offcer, his ex-partner/ team mate.End up, he ask ex-team mate to kill himself.

- At the ending, after avenge for his family death. Frank Castle plan to kill himself but stopped after he saw his wife soul which is she's trying to ask him not to do tat.
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u know, if the malaysian censorship board gonna ban the punisher, gua sikit pun tak kisah. that film is not worth watching.
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the young & dangerous unnecessarily concluding ho nam as a undercop was seriously bullcrap. in the prequel's storyline, ho nam joined the triads after he got dropped out of school. he never joined the police.
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QUOTE(BurgaFlippinMan @ Apr 28 2008, 04:41 PM)
If bad guys can't win, how come The Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith got screened here?
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Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Comedy, Satire, etc. which don't alarm the board are ok kua. Anyway, if Star Wars movies are banned here, imagine the fans' reaction.

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