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post Apr 23 2008, 05:32 PM, updated 18y ago

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Remember when we said the WCG 2008 Malaysia will run an ACG Qualifiers at the Kick-Off? Anxious to know what games are chosen? Want to go for Singapore? Anticipate no more! icon_idea.gif

WCG 2008 Asian Championship Qualifiers Official Titles
1. DotA All-Stars
2. FIFA Soccer 08(tm)
3. Need for Speed(tm): Pro Street
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HOW TO REGISTER? Simple! rclxms.gif

For INDIVIDUAL Games (FIFA & NFS)
1. Registration starts at 11:00am to 12:00pm at Plaza Low Yat, Boulevard on 30th May 2008, Friday.
2. FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.
3. Slots open: 32 only.
4. For UNDER 18 years old at the time of registration (meaning below 18 years old on 30th May) please download the PARENTAL CONSENT FORM & COMPLETE BEFORE YOU COME FOR REGISTRATION. Form can be downloaded at the my.worldcybergames.com website.

For TEAM Game (DotA All-Stars)
1. Registration starts at 11:00am to 12:00pm at Plaza Low Yat, Boulevard on 31st May 2008, Saturday.
2. FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.
3. Slots open: 16 only.
4. For UNDER 18 years old at the time of registration (meaning below 18 years old on 30th May) please download the PARENTAL CONSENT FORM & COMPLETE BEFORE YOU COME FOR REGISTRATION. Form can be downloaded at the my.worldcybergames.com website.

But WAIT! What about the champions last year? Here's the tough part, the last year's champions will be seeded to the FINALS. Meaning, you must challenge and WIN last year's winners at the end, and if you win, you will represent Malaysia to the WCG 2008 Asian Championship in Singapore. notworthy.gif

Sounds interesting? So, don't miss out this exciting event! thumbup.gif

As usual, any queries, please e-mail to august@in2.com.my

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like the seeded thingy...(1st to post rclxm9.gif)

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post Apr 23 2008, 06:04 PM

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post Apr 23 2008, 08:10 PM

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walao..dota Slots open: 16 only. why ?? m4gi_7 ..how r u oh..long time no see u jor ...
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Dat means have to play wif jali if wanna go to SG.Thx for the info.biggrin.gif
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32 only for the individual games????



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QUOTE(bpwx @ Apr 23 2008, 09:25 PM)
Expect lots of people to berebut-rebut bermatian-matian for the slots for FIFA 08 flex.gif  shocking.gif  rclxub.gif
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You got that right....

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we need to travel to SG to play?

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post Apr 23 2008, 11:23 PM

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wow dota biggrin.gif after 1 year, it come back again. can't wait and wanted to see on that day.
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post Apr 24 2008, 12:09 AM

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hmmm..
dun hav cs 1.6 this time?
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Folks, don't be confused yah, I found so many people confused themselves about this one.
This event is WCG Malaysia 2008 KICK-OFF event. Means that it's a LAUNCH event, NOT the actual WCG Malaysia 2008 yet.

QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 23 2008, 05:32 PM)
But WAIT! What about the champions last year? Here's the tough part, the last year's champions will be seeded to the FINALS. Meaning, you must challenge and WIN last year's winners at the end, and if you win, you will represent Malaysia to the WCG 2008 Asian Championship in Singapore. notworthy.gif
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What if the champions are not able to make it?

QUOTE(razin_iylia12 @ Apr 23 2008, 09:24 PM)
Dat means have to play wif jali if wanna go to SG.Thx for the info.biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bpwx @ Apr 23 2008, 09:25 PM)
Expect lots of people to berebut-rebut bermatian-matian for the slots for FIFA 08 flex.gif  shocking.gif  rclxub.gif
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Carnage ensured.
Angelstarz, can increase the slots for FIFA? Please? icon_question.gif

QUOTE(LuVz @ Apr 23 2008, 10:46 PM)
we need to travel to SG to play?
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This is the qualifier to go to SG. If you win this one then yes, you have to travel to SG tongue.gif

QUOTE(jason991 @ Apr 24 2008, 12:09 AM)
hmmm..
dun hav cs 1.6 this time?
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No in the official WCG Asian championship list as well.
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post Apr 24 2008, 01:32 AM

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i guess peeps will start camping in lowyat plaza on thursday night just to join FIFA xD
heck i might go and camp as well
who knows if nfsps slots will be quite demanding tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gM | Mutsumi-san @ Apr 24 2008, 01:32 AM)
heck i might go and camp as well
who knows if nfsps slots will be quite demanding tongue.gif
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Is this a sign of a make-shift NFSPS all night training camp on the night of the event? hmm.gif

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post Apr 24 2008, 01:38 AM

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if i had a gaming laptop then i would go with the all night training camp
else just play around with my nds till the battery runs dead and go to sleep xD
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wahaha.32 slots for fifa?

i think registration can go up till 64 or even 128 as well..
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QUOTE(gM | Mutsumi-san @ Apr 24 2008, 01:38 AM)
if i had a gaming laptop then i would go with the all night training camp
else just play around with my nds till the battery runs dead and go to sleep xD
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QUOTE(arroyos @ Apr 24 2008, 01:39 AM)
wahaha.32 slots for fifa?

i think registration can go up till 64 or even 128 as well..
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You need to add the word EASILY. laugh.gif
But then, this is Friday we are talking about... hmm.gif
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cheh i thought wanna camp and play at lowyat plaza tongue.gif
since im a gamer "friday" means nothing to me
just give me any day and i'll come xD

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post Apr 24 2008, 09:18 AM

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Chappppp.. cannot increase lah, later nfs oso wanna increase, dota oso wanna increase we play until next month di. lol.

If last year's champion not able to make it, 2nd runner-up will be seeded up to the finals. wink.gif

Team that will be seeded for DotA will be the team that went for ACG last year. smile.gif
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post Apr 24 2008, 11:48 AM

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Thanks for your suggestions.

But this ISN'T WCG 2008 MALAYSIA CHAMPIONSHIP. this is just a ACG Qualifiers, which is why it is smaller scale compared to the Malaysia Championship scale.

We're not cramming 128 players into 32 slots, we're just having a ACG Qualifiers in smaller scale smile.gif For those who cannot manage to get a slot for ACG Qualifiers, you can still join WCG Malaysia Championship in August and stand a chance to win a spot to go to Germany for Grand Finals smile.gif

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so the seeded team should be RoA right? i heard this from my friend 1..
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QUOTE(lazychai @ Apr 24 2008, 03:17 PM)
so the seeded team should be RoA right? i heard this from my friend 1..
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so does is mean mkvl-roa is seeded ? brows.gif
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QUOTE(guardioo @ Apr 24 2008, 09:38 AM)
nah..u got no life
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 24 2008, 10:23 AM)
Chappppp.. cannot increase lah, later nfs oso wanna increase, dota oso wanna increase we play until next month di. lol.

If last year's champion not able to make it, 2nd runner-up will be seeded up to the finals. wink.gif

Team that will be seeded for DotA will be the team that went for ACG last year. smile.gif
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QUOTE(bpwx @ Apr 24 2008, 11:42 AM)
Well, there's definitely MORE Fifa players which was why we suggested to have more slots for fifa.... For DOTA, to get 16 teams is to get about 80 total players ( 16x5) which is quite alot la so I think its fair.....Last year, WCG had about 128 FIFA players, but now you're cramming everything into 32 slots.....From what we saw last year, despite the fact FIFA had the most slots which was 128, it was the FIRST game to finish up its slots, while the other games' slots took ages to finish up.... But at the end of the day, if you all insist of mantaining only 32 slots of FIFA then go ahead, just expect a little bit of carnage....  icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 24 2008, 11:48 AM)
Thanks for your suggestions.

But this ISN'T WCG 2008 MALAYSIA CHAMPIONSHIP. this is just a ACG Qualifiers, which is why it is smaller scale compared to the Malaysia Championship scale.

We're not cramming 128 players into 32 slots, we're just having a ACG Qualifiers in smaller scale smile.gif For those who cannot manage to get a slot for ACG Qualifiers, you can still join WCG Malaysia Championship in August and stand a chance to win a spot to go to Germany for Grand Finals smile.gif
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QUOTE(bpwx @ Apr 24 2008, 12:49 PM)
Yes I do know that it's NOT the Malaysian Championship, but definitely the same people who's joining the Malaysian Championship will want to join this WCG kick-off as well due to the competitive nature in us Malaysians  icon_idea.gif  rclxms.gif  hmm.gif which was why I thought it was better to increase the slots, but yea, we're submitting to your decision nod.gif Well, no matter whether it's small scale or big scale, I'm guessing it's still gonna be an exciting event!!  rclxms.gif  flex.gif
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having 32 slots more better than having 0 slot nod.gif
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mean KS unable to join for that dota tourney lor
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 24 2008, 10:23 AM)
Chappppp.. cannot increase lah, later nfs oso wanna increase, dota oso wanna increase we play until next month di. lol.
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LOL, good point laugh.gif

QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 24 2008, 10:23 AM)
Team that will be seeded for DotA will be the team that went for ACG last year. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ChoboNope @ Apr 24 2008, 02:44 PM)
so does is mean mkvl-roa is seeded ?  brows.gif
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This is what I was wondering as well.


QUOTE(guardioo @ Apr 24 2008, 05:21 PM)
mean KS unable to join for that dota tourney lor
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Not that their are not unable to join. It actually mean KS need to start the tournament from group stage and if they made it to the finals, they need to win against whoever is seeded to the finals, in order to represent Malaysia at Asian WCG.

Clearer? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kujaboyde @ Apr 24 2008, 04:36 PM)
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having 32 slots more better than having 0 slot  nod.gif
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 24 2008, 10:23 AM)
Chappppp.. cannot increase lah, later nfs oso wanna increase, dota oso wanna increase we play until next month di. lol.

If last year's champion not able to make it, 2nd runner-up will be seeded up to the finals. wink.gif

Team that will be seeded for DotA will be the team that went for ACG last year. smile.gif
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angelstarz rocks ! rclxms.gif

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I think with the limited resources from the organizer, the proposal to increase the current proposed FIFA slot from 32 to 64 or 128 would cause a "organizing stress" to them.

Moreover, its easier to handle small amount of players in maintaining a successful tournament.

Btw, the WCG:Asian 2008 did not have any RTS listed. Can the M'sia organizer reflect this to WCG:Asian?

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QUOTE(bpwx @ Apr 24 2008, 09:44 PM)
Yea... 2 slots also better than 0 slot.... Next tourney, we just have 2 slots  thumbup.gif
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im ok with that.. but u ask la urself.. flex.gif
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QUOTE(arroyos @ Apr 24 2008, 06:01 PM)
forza ftw!  blush.gif

angelstarz rocks !  rclxms.gif
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a question for the organizers,
are we playing with the updated rules or playing it with WCG SEC rules?
i dont mind playing with SEC rules though icon_idea.gif xD
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Please play with the SEC rules as the WCG08 rules for FIFA08 is not fully updated i guess...they are still using previous year's rules sigh
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SEC rules FTW!!! xD
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whoops forgot to add
WCG made changes in their official rules
source: http://www.worldcybergames.com/6th/fun/Not...no=N08042410000

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QUOTE(na21m @ Apr 25 2008, 01:20 PM)
No Starcraft?
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I think that is obvious enough.

Rules TBC, definitely a new set, but we're still "localizing" it. smile.gif
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For your information , last year Dota ACG champion was team RoA. Now team RoA have merge with team mKvL that is us mKvL-RoA. Does it mean we get seeded?
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QUOTE(Gamma2K @ Apr 25 2008, 08:22 PM)
For your information , last year Dota ACG champion was team RoA. Now team RoA have merge with team mKvL that is us mKvL-RoA. Does it mean we get seeded?
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i think that would only count if 3 of the original members are in the current team.
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what about the rules n regulation? which will be used? care to add?
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 25 2008, 04:24 PM)
I think that is obvious enough.

Rules TBC, definitely a new set, but we're still "localizing" it. smile.gif
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dont understand this, Invince_Z ?
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ooo...got it.didnt read that post blush.gif thanks bro smile.gif

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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Apr 27 2008, 01:13 PM)
ooo...got it.didnt read that post blush.gif thanks bro smile.gif
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how to get a slot for dota ? @.@"
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 23 2008, 05:32 PM)

For TEAM Game (DotA All-Stars)
1. Registration starts at 11:00am to 12:00pm at Plaza Low Yat, Boulevard on 31st May 2008, Saturday.
2. FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.
3. Slots open: 16 only.
4. For UNDER 18 years old at the time of registration (meaning below 18 years old on 30th May) please download the PARENTAL CONSENT FORM & COMPLETE BEFORE YOU COME FOR REGISTRATION. Form can be downloaded at the my.worldcybergames.com website.

As usual, any queries, please e-mail to august@in2.com.my
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QUOTE(-XioNG-| @ Apr 27 2008, 05:38 PM)
how to get a slot for dota ? @.@"
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read that.. smile.gif
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how much the fees for dota?31 may register and when gonna play?Is it play after paid?
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QUOTE(tDs-IS @ Apr 28 2008, 04:00 AM)
how much the fees for dota?31 may register and when gonna play?Is it play after paid?
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i believe its free.. as stated 1st come 1st serve biggrin.gif
i dun mind to sell my slot tongue.gif but prepare la alot money laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kujaboyde @ Apr 28 2008, 04:35 AM)
i believe its free.. as stated 1st come 1st serve biggrin.gif
i dun mind to sell my slot tongue.gif but prepare la alot money laugh.gif
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how much are we talking brows.gif
no la, i wanna play fair and square kekeke whistling.gif
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Tournament will be held on the 30th & 31st for individual games. And 31st for DotA.

No registration fees required.
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 28 2008, 11:49 AM)
Tournament will be held on the 30th & 31st for individual games. And 31st for DotA.

No registration fees required.
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Good decision for that.

Btw, hv the date for WCG.MY final been comfirmed yet?
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erm..angelstartz,if over 18 yearold...can join ma?and no prize?
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QUOTE(Ice`WeNz @ Apr 28 2008, 08:36 PM)
erm..angelstartz,if over 18 yearold...can join ma?and no prize?
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Every Malaysian can join lor.If ur under 18 u need to get ur parents signature at the parental consent form.If its for 18+ then i still cannot join WCG lah.
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QUOTE(kakaroak @ Apr 29 2008, 04:17 PM)
got pes2008???
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WCG got FIFA08 lah not PES2008.Sry dude.
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QUOTE(kujaboyde @ Apr 29 2008, 05:04 PM)
got got.. fast fast register.. 1st come 1st serve
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Whatever games also got right? Just come and you will get it..

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QUOTE(Ice`WeNz @ Apr 29 2008, 09:31 PM)
erm....prize is how many ?dint yet know?
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They dint tell yet.Even the rules they dint tell yet.
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prize is rm1000 1st prize 2nd prize rm2000

3rd prize rm3000

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prize is rm1000 1st prize 2nd prize rm2000

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and get free 1 handphone for joining...good luck all suckers!
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QUOTE(Umbalakiki @ Apr 30 2008, 09:49 PM)
prize is rm1000 1st prize 2nd prize rm2000

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Tengok his signature: "Sell cabal gold 1 million = rm3 please pm me"

Kid doing business..

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can 1 foreigner wit 4 local ppl join dota ??
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QUOTE(accelerator7 @ May 1 2008, 12:15 AM)
Tengok his signature: "Sell cabal gold 1 million = rm3 please pm me"

Kid doing business..

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when will u guys post the rules????wanna get rdy lor.
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hmm most probably same rules like wcg official rules
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tats mean 31st may go low yat plaza on 11am then can do the registration ?
will if fulled when reach ?? O.o
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ Apr 23 2008, 05:32 PM)
...............For UNDER 18 years old at the time of registration (meaning below 18 years old on 30th May) please download the PARENTAL CONSENT FORM & COMPLETE BEFORE YOU COME FOR REGISTRATION. Form can be downloaded at the my.worldcybergames.com website.............

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wcg malaysia national finals got dated
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QUOTE(gM | Mutsumi-san @ May 11 2008, 03:41 AM)
wcg malaysia national finals got dated
15th-17th august 2008
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uh i havent got my mag yet huhu
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QUOTE(kujaboyde @ May 12 2008, 02:06 PM)
so whats the purpose? just wanna adv games?
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There are no further information about WCG Malaysia 2008 inside the issue, although there’s an advertisement about the upcoming WCG Malaysia 2008 Kick-Off event. I don’t know whether other local game magazines has the same badge on their covers or not. Will check on that later today.

http://multiplay.lowyat.net/2008/05/12/wcg...agazines-cover/


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so bro
i want to register my team for the WCG asian qualifier
how eh? biggrin.gif
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so bro
i want to register my team for the WCG asian qualifier
how eh? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ May 12 2008, 03:31 PM)
so bro
i want to register my team for the WCG asian qualifier
how eh? biggrin.gif
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Read at the front page lah. shocking.gif shakehead.gif doh.gif blink.gif
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counter strike got ah?
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where i want to register my team??
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where i want to register my team??
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is for 16 first team only?
if got more than 16 team kene halau eh?
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is for 16 first team only?
if got more than 16 team kene halau eh?
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For TEAM Game (DotA All-Stars)
1. Registration starts at 11:00am to 12:00pm at Plaza Low Yat, Boulevard on 31st May 2008, Saturday.
2. FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.
3. Slots open: 16 only.
4. For UNDER 18 years old at the time of registration (meaning below 18 years old on 30th May) please download the PARENTAL CONSENT FORM & COMPLETE BEFORE YOU COME FOR REGISTRATION. Form can be downloaded at the my.worldcybergames.com website.



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Tapi front page tarak tulis the updated and finalized RULES for all games... sad.gif
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Don't know whether finalize or not (I think not yet) : http://my.worldcybergames.com/tournament/games
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Chap faster go ask them and confirm la! GOGOGOGO tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chapree @ May 13 2008, 12:58 AM)
Don't know whether finalize or not (I think not yet) : http://my.worldcybergames.com/tournament/games
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oh neos
what am i suppose to do with my pgr4 lulz?
jual balik =/
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Game Type: Circuit
Courses : Portland International Raceway, Festival GP/Willow Springs, Short Track B/Infineon, GP Track/Chicago Airfield, Airport Long/ Autopolis, GP Track (*Each Course may be modified by the WCG committee. Players will be informed before the tournament of any such modifications)
Car Settings
Visual Upgrades are allowed.
Personal save files are NOT allowed.
WCG provided save file must be used for car setting.
Cars may be tuned before racing each course.
Graphic settings such as “motion blur” can be set using external utilities.
Car: Only the Bonus Lamborghini Lmp 640 is allowed
Personal save files are not allowed. Provided WCG save file must be used.
Race Mode Options : Circuit
Track Direction : Forward
Laps: 5 (all tracks once)
Weather: Clear
Number of AI: 0
Cameras: Any
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what time the registration for FIFA??
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Dear gamers sekalian,

Minta maaf, we still updating the webbie, a lot of news belum up lagi. So just bear with us for another week ok. Berbanyak updates to put up. BTW, the rules are up n finalized, for ACG qualifiers, we will use the same rules for Fifa and NFS. For DotA, rules, TBC.

oh, and Chap, thanks for the coverage biggrin.gif yup, WCG MY Champ date has been announced but we couldn't update and officially release on our website becauseeeeeeeee..................... doh, website still updating tongue.gif

Thanks thanks.
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Dear gamers sekalian,

Minta maaf, we still updating the webbie, a lot of news belum up lagi. So just bear with us for another week ok. Berbanyak updates to put up. BTW, the rules are up n finalized, for ACG qualifiers, we will use the same rules for Fifa and NFS. For DotA, rules, TBC.

oh, and Chap, thanks for the coverage biggrin.gif yup, WCG MY Champ date has been announced but we couldn't update and officially release on our website becauseeeeeeeee..................... doh, website still updating tongue.gif

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QUOTE(angelstarz @ May 13 2008, 10:08 AM)
Dear gamers sekalian,

Minta maaf, we still updating the webbie, a lot of news belum up lagi. So just bear with us for another week ok. Berbanyak updates to put up. BTW, the rules are up n finalized, for ACG qualifiers, we will use the same rules for Fifa and NFS. For DotA, rules, TBC.

oh, and Chap, thanks for the coverage biggrin.gif yup, WCG MY Champ date has been announced but we couldn't update and officially release on our website becauseeeeeeeee..................... doh, website still updating tongue.gif

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Aha, your welcome. biggrin.gif

But the rules seems to reflect many of the older European Championship / proto-rules instead of the latest set by ICM. I believe a number of pple already point this out to you, so we hope that it can be changed to the latest one so everybody can focus straight to Cologne, without the need of retraining after WCG.my Grand Finals. nod.gif

I also emailed Naka about this one. wink.gif
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Yeah..its the same for fifa..it seems like last year rule is used compare to the latest SEC 1.There will be no more changes on the rule??
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alright, i will see what i can do. will email u the details as soon as i can =)

i will double check with the Fifa Head Referee for the GF and ICM, see what solution that they can come out with.

So if there's any changes, i will let you all know as soon as possible.

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I wonder which rules will they ACG08 use for FIFA08? Are they using the old rules (FIFA07 rules) or the newly updated SEC08 rules? huh.gif
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QUOTE(NakA @ May 13 2008, 10:54 PM)
alright, i will see what i can do. will email u the details as soon as i can =)

i will double check with the Fifa Head Referee for the GF and ICM, see what solution that they can come out with.

So if there's any changes, i will let you all know as soon as possible.
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Thanks Naka
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AT THE MOMENT,

Long Balls are forbidden. There is a tolerance zone located few meters before the middlefield line. However, after their own middlefield, the player is allowed to use this combination.

Only short corners and long crosses outside of the goalkeeper area (5m) are allowed.

Players on both sides have to use ‘WCG Multi-tool’ to set difficulty level. ‘WCG

As for the teams, you can use whatever teams that's available, either internation or club biggrin.gif

There will be some changes to Fifa's rules, as long as i get the info, i will let you all know.
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how about nfs? the rules posted no official wcg rules
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i already finalised all the final rules, i sent it to june, so i believe soon or later it will be updated..

except for FIFA*might have some changes*, but other games mostly are finalised.
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alright, i will see what i can do. will email u the details as soon as i can =)
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Thanks Naka. Hope the FIFA08 rules will follow the latest and updated rules which are also currently used by international competitions worldwide, particularly the SEC08 rules. I'm sure the ACG08 will be using the recent rules as well and we don't hope to have 2 different rules during WCG Kick Off and also during the ACG08 in SG. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(NakA @ May 14 2008, 11:53 AM)
i already finalised all the final rules, i sent it to june, so i believe soon or later it will be updated..

except for FIFA*might have some changes*, but other games mostly are finalised.
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Game Type: Grip
Courses: Autopolis – GP Circuit, Chicago Airfield – Airport Long, Infineon – GP Circuit, Willow Springs – Short Circuit B, Texas World Speedway – GP Circuit A (*Each Course may be modified by the WCG committee. Players will be informed before the tournament of any such modifications)
Car Settings:
Personal save files are not allowed.
WCG provided save file must be used for car setting.
ONLY the Porsche 911 Turbo using ONLY the preselected shared Blueprint provided in the WCG save file Career is allowed.
Cars maybe tuned from the in race menu before each race.

Race Day Options: Grip
Challenge Race Day: NO
Difficulty: Elite
Number of Laps: 5
Game Type: Unranked
AI Opponents: OFF
Collisions: OFF
Min. Players: 3
Private Race: Yes
Other controllers, Steering Wheel allowed
Graphic settings such as “motion blur” can be set using external utilities.
Personal save files are not allowed. Provided WCG save file must be used.




WCG NFS Save v1.1 :http://www.worldcybergames.com/6th/2008/Ga...S_Save_v1.1.zip

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Wah,i never knew Coca Cola sponsor WCG as the official drink.Free drinks yay!!! tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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Last week d, still no confirm rules on fifa08??
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So far, no =)
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My advise is just train according to SEC 08 rules since its the most reliable rules and it is also used in CGS 08 as well.



Anyway anyhow just train the basic stuff so that even the rules might been change so drasticlly it wont affect your gameplay too much.



But judging from how WCG is, the chances for such thing to happen is very low. ^^
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btw, got cs1.6 for ACG? o.o
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No, there is no CS for ACG. Thx
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What does ACG stands for? I thought ACG stands for Asian Cyber Games xD

This should be AWCG, Asian World Cyber Games right?
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then is there cs1.6 for this WCG Kick Off on 30th and 31st at lowyat?
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QUOTE(unfaithful @ May 23 2008, 04:05 PM)
then is there cs1.6 for this WCG Kick Off on 30th and 31st at lowyat?
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answer for ur question on page #1
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hmm.. just wanted to know is there any chances for cs1.6 to be in the kick off. since it says MORE GAMES UPDATES SOON. blush.gif
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first of all,
the kickoff is more towards the asian championship qualifiers
the "more games updates soon" was meant to be xbox games
which i doubt its gonna be added anytime soon since its just 6 days away from the event
probably there will be a freeplay booth catering all the games for audience to try out
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Note to the organisers regarding Dota.

With the recent release of 6.52c , Icefrog has managed to fixed some imperfections in the 6.52 version which is incidentally what is written in the rules and I assume will be used if no announcement is done to change it ourselves.

This is the link to the latest Asian Dota Championship rule set for the regular season where as one of the head admins , I personally had a hand in drafting it :

ADC Season 2 Rules

To make it easier to comprehend , its basically using the same rules as the published ACG Dota Rules with the following differences :

1. Each team will have the chance to ban 4 heroes now instead of 3 in the current rules. So basically both teams will be allowed to take out 4 heroes from the pool of heroes before drafting starts. This will work based on a 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 format. This can be seen by simply typing -xl in the new map and the default mode set by the creator is 4 bans for each side.

2. The usage of the map 6.52c as the map for the tournament instead of 6.52. This change is in my opinion a must as the creator of the map has addressed several known and unknown issues in the 6.52 map which in our opinion makes the game more stable for tournament play. As the rules stated that the latest stable map version will be used in tournaments, 6.52c is the latest stable map

Attempts to reach the administration of ACG in Singapore has not been successful over the past few weeks. As the rules above will surely be implemented over time as it is in total adherence to the spirit of the rules and the default mode of banning set by the creator of the map, I hope the change above can be implemented in the qualifiers that is to be held next week where change number 2 is much more crucial.

Any queries about this can be directed through pm or communicated through My-Gaming Lim the SMM Dota tournament head marshal.

On a side note , since Dota presents a huge chance for Malaysia of grabbing honours for the nation in this prestigious Asian E-sports tournament , I am seeking assistance in securing the following teams automatic berths and seedings into the brackets :

1. Team Kingsurf from Johor
2. Team w4si from Perak
3. Team Ice from Penang
4. Team mKvL from KL
5. Team Cybertime-Gov from KL

All 5 teams has proved over the past year as possessing the teamwork and skills to prove they are heads and shoulders above the rest in the field, signs of them putting more work than anyone else in the game. Though the organisers stressed the importance of fairness in allowing teams to register on a first come first serve basis , but it is not fair in my opinion for even 1 of these potential medal winners for the nation in ACG actually missing a spot to qualify just because 11 other teams actually woke up at 6 am to get themselves registered before they can (an exaggeration but you get the point).
I was with team Cybertime 1 when they cruised to the finals of ACG Dota last year and I overheard one of them mentioned that it is much easier to reach the finals for ACG than it was for them to do so in any Malaysia competition. This is just how good we are at Dota and I think our top teams deserve to at least be given a fair chance to properly qualify in next week's qualifiers without any untoward incidents happening to them from the "first come first serve" basis of registration like the one i mentioned above.
Any pre-register work such as the setting of the latest time (which will be determined later) to be there to secure an auto berth or payment of a fee to secure a spot in the 16 team bracket can be arranged with me through pm and I will gladly ensure the teams mentioned above follow them through.

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then if the above teams are that worried not to get registered, do what the other teams do then
wake up at 6am then start a campfire
if they cant do that, then try harder
if a listed above teams ask for autoberth, then why cant others?
is there fairness in that?
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post May 24 2008, 02:49 PM

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There is a reason to be concerned as 3 of the 5 mentioned teams are from outstation and a team of 5 has much more logistics issues than say a Fifa player.

With Dota tournaments easily breaking the 30 team mark in Klang Valley alone even with a fee charged nowadays , there might be a chance that random teams which are just lucky to be there early enough might just sneak into the 16 qualifier spots over say a team which is a known top 2 in Malaysia (team Hybrid for CS for example) who arranged bus tickets from Johor to participate in this event missed out on the chance due to some technical issues that could occur on that day.

I would never doubt the teams I mentioned above will certainly appear in the vicinity before the registration starts at 11pm that day. But the way the registration is worded creates a slight chance that the unthinkable may just happen at that day itself. In CS terms it will be to deny Team Hybrid , in Fifa terms it will be to deny Si Jali and of course in NFS terms it will be to deny Chapree the chance to participate in this qualifiers for one of the top events of the year.

I actually have a team from Sabah which traditionally did well at the local scene but do not want to risk flying their whole team down due to this slight chance of being denied participation on that day itself.

If the aim of this qualifiers is to select the best team and players to represent our nation in this international event, some more efforts are need to be done to ensure the selection will be based on the best possible pool of 16 we can get.

And in my book , there is not much fairness if any one of the above incidents that I bolded happened to any of their respective games which will certainly be regarded as a disaster in their respective communities.

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2. FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.

which fair to everyone..and yes im from sabah too smile.gif



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QUOTE(underminer @ May 24 2008, 02:49 PM)
There is a reason to be concerned as 3 of the 5 mentioned teams are from outstation and a team of 5 has much more logistics issues than say a Fifa player.

With Dota tournaments easily breaking the 30 team mark in Klang Valley alone even with a fee charged nowadays , there might be a chance that random teams which are just lucky to be there early enough might just sneak into the 16 qualifier spots over say a team which is a known top 2 in Malaysia (team Hybrid for CS for example) who arranged bus tickets from Johor to participate in this event missed out on the chance due to some technical issues that could occur on that day.

I would never doubt the teams I mentioned above will certainly appear in the vicinity before the registration starts at 11pm that day. But the way the registration is worded creates a slight chance that the unthinkable may just happen at that day itself. In CS terms it will be to deny Team Hybrid  , in Fifa terms it will be to deny Si Jali and of course in NFS terms it will be to deny Chapree the chance to participate in this qualifiers for one of the top events of the year.

I actually have a team from Sabah which traditionally did well at the local scene but do not want to risk flying their whole team down due to this slight chance of being denied participation on that day itself.

If the aim of this qualifiers is to select the best team and players to represent our nation in this international event, some more efforts are need to be done to ensure the selection will be based on the best possible pool of 16 we can get.

And in my book , there is not much fairness if any one of the above incidents that I bolded happened to any of their respective games which will certainly be regarded as a disaster in their respective communities.
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1st come 1st serve do test a team or a gamer characteristic which is:


1. Determination
2. Passion
3. Discipline



It maybe not related to gaming skills but it is a show of characteristic. For to be a great gamer must have a good character as well.


You do point out some good point but if you put me in that spot I'll definitely be camping out at the counter. Thats show i really really REALLY wanted the spot ^^


Off the record, i heard some players already plan to camp out. Are you willing to join them? ^^
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@ underminer
like i said before, if a team is worried about their participation
then come earlier, like a day or 2 days before or a week
that shows how determine a team is
if u say technical difficulties happen during their travel plan
then its their fate
they just have to accept the fact
u wanna discuss about msian gamers fate?
theres plenty of those story especially last year for most of the msian gamers to the wcg grand finals last year @ seattle
they cant do a thing about it and they accepted it in the end

to be sure about participation, come earlier
camp if u must
thats the only solution
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Question here
So i just need to go down lowyat on saturday and camp to register?
and if there are 16 teams earlier then me i would not be able to register??
so is it about who reaches there 1st?

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QUOTE(BinnYZai @ May 24 2008, 09:42 PM)
Question here
So i just need to go down lowyat on saturday and camp to register?
and if there are 16 teams earlier then me i would not be able to register??
so is it about who reaches there 1st?
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Yup the 1st 16 to reg for DOTA will compete.
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QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ May 24 2008, 10:25 PM)
Yup the 1st 16 to reg for DOTA will compete.
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ic thx man
Wat time u think i need to be there to ensure a place 4 my team LoL?
lowyat open wat time any1 know haha

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QUOTE(BinnYZai @ May 24 2008, 10:34 PM)
ic thx man
Wat time u think i need to be there to ensure a place 4 my team LoL?
lowyat open wat time any1 know haha
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lol well this one is really up to who wants it more.


Those who wants it more will b there earlier.


The shop in Lowyat open around 10AM.


But the doors opened earlier.


So just come as early as possible ^^
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suddenly, i just feel the kick off is unorganize.
this is not testing
1. Determination
2. Passion
3. Discipline

this is about how well you organize the event.
i do understand they worried about team that registered never attend, but if a team really late, why dont just disqualified them, a team imho need to be punctual.
thats the matter of the crowd i think organizer worried about, without a time schedule when to play 1st?you camp there whole day??

but of coz, mutsumi, sometimes you just talking some nonsense about msia gamers to states, i wouldnt like to be harsh, but if you use ur brain, getting visa to states is pain in the ass, but getting a bus from others states to kl doesnt need visa.

oh well, organizer decide all, i just watch only...
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QUOTE(guardioo @ May 25 2008, 01:38 AM)
suddenly, i just feel the kick off is unorganize.
this is not testing
1. Determination
2. Passion
3. Discipline

this is about how well you organize the event.
i do understand they worried about team that registered never attend, but if a team really late, why dont just disqualified them, a team imho need to be punctual.
thats the matter of the crowd i think organizer worried about, without a time schedule when to play 1st?you camp there whole day??

but of coz, mutsumi, sometimes you just talking some nonsense about msia gamers to states, i wouldnt like to be harsh, but if you use ur brain, getting visa to states is pain in the ass, but getting a bus from others states to kl doesnt need visa.

oh well, organizer decide all, i just watch only...
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Yup it might be because organizer might have limited time,limited space,limited pcs, limited resources,limited budget and etc etc.


So they come up with this rules.


But a team and a player imho should do whatever it takes to participate no matter what if they really had the DETERMINATION,PASSION and DISCIPLINE.


In my early days as a gamer i travel a lot from my hometown Kuantan to KL. I use my own money which i save during my school days to practice at cc because i dont have any pc at my house. And i still come early 1 hour to any tourney although its not 1st come 1st basis. During CGS last year where it was suppose to be 1st come 1st basis i check the website every hour every day to register to get that spot. I fly back often from Indonesia to Malaysia just to participate for WCG Asia 06, WCG Malaysia 06, CEL Games 07,WCG Malaysia 07 and CGS 07. And most of the time the tix are expensive bcoz last min flight and the prizes i won didnt even cover up the cost. And i quit from pursuing my studies in medicine because i wanna go to WCG Grand Final in USA. The only reason im doing this is because i wanted it soooooooooooo badddddddddd.


So what if have to camp? So what if have to wait another year to get a chance to go to WCG Grand Final? So what if your poor? So what if you dont have the time? So what if you live far far away? So what if you dont have family support? SO WHAT?


If you think that its too hard to achieve your dream, then just quit. Life is about facing obstacles everyday and face it with guts.


Just a lil bit of prob and ppl are complaining. So far la, so sikit la, so this la, so that la,no tourney la, have to pay la,no this game la,no that game la,this tourney sux la bcoz dun have that game la, that tourney sux bcoz the prizes no class la,not worth it la,organizer not organize la.


This is the reason y gamers in Malaysia cant compete overseas. Because they are not willing to go that far. Not determine enough. Not passionate enough. Only know to give excuses.


So if you wanna play, if you wanna go to Singapore, if you wanna have the honor representing Malaysia, if you wanna compete with the best in Asia, if you wanna be in all the gaming magazine and some newspapers, if you wanna make your family and frens(and gf) proud then just fu*king come to Lowyat next week.


It doesnt matter if the tourney is 1st come 1st serve basis or unlimited slot or free or have to pay or whateva they might come out.


You want it or not thts all.


I bet many ppl gonna post sumthg back to me and say this and that or whteva. Just post lor.


I'll still be there at Lowyat. I'll be going to Lowyat next week. I'll still be there supporting my frens although im not playing until the final.


But are you?


So i'll end this post with a quote from my favorite motivator:



"Orang lain buat duit, kita buat alasan"

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QUOTE(guardioo @ May 25 2008, 01:38 AM)
suddenly, i just feel the kick off is unorganize.
this is not testing
1. Determination
2. Passion
3. Discipline

this is about how well you organize the event.
i do understand they worried about team that registered never attend, but if a team really late, why dont just disqualified them, a team imho need to be punctual.
thats the matter of the crowd i think organizer worried about, without a time schedule when to play 1st?you camp there whole day??

but of coz, mutsumi, sometimes you just talking some nonsense about msia gamers to states, i wouldnt like to be harsh, but if you use ur brain, getting visa to states is pain in the ass, but getting a bus from others states to kl doesnt need visa.

oh well, organizer decide all, i just watch only...
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so if getting a bus from other states to kl is that "easy" then whats the big problem then?
face problem?
bus broke down? take another bus, is it that hard?
no money for another ticket? then go back home and cry to your mommy
face the reality that u cant handle that much pressure and problems then overcome it next time
then regarding visa to the states, if someone cant have it then they have to accept it
are u telling me that if they cant get visa, then they camp at the embassy waiting for a miracle?
thats more bullcrap and it might earn a butt kicking out of the embassy due to time constraints
gamers last year face the facts that they cant get the visas and move on
same thing happens if peeps cant get into the qualifiers next week, u still move on with life
players need to play a part and do what they can to get a spot, if they cant do that then tough luck
so if ur saying that the organizers are not doing their job well, u think u can do a better job then?
if not then just shutup and watch, they know what they are doing
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Let's hope no gamers do stupid stuff just to get the slots.
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Well it seems like there's sort of arguments here huh..

Always... there are complaints.. I wonder why? PPL will never get satisfy? Is that right?

ya ya Forza, you demand a lot. =p

For example, remember back in 3 years ago, gamers paid for joining WCG.. So there are complaints, oh expensive this and that, why have to pay? WHY? SO... ok fine, after that year, it became FREE.. and still not satisfy?

Always organizer tries to do everything to fulfill the gamers' needs for this and that, and there's always some people who still don't appreciate.. i wonder why...

i really speechless for that..

Sometimes, organizer really want to do something in order to satisfy everyone, but for sure theres something going on, you see. NEVER, never have no problems at all. well well... haha..

By the way, this is just part of my opinion =)

If anyone has better solution, then just go email about it

Anyway, i do believe there will be a time schedule coming out soon before the Kick off..
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first of all, jali, i never complaint about no tourney.
and 2nd, mutsumi, i kinda feel like u like a so called act pro in gaming community like that.
if you think you really went to singapore wcg and be a marshall and proud of it, yea, go for it.
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so if getting a bus from other states to kl is that "easy" then whats the big problem then?
face problem?
bus broke down? take another bus, is it that hard?
no money for another ticket? then go back home and cry to your mommy
face the reality that u cant handle that much pressure and problems then overcome it next time
then regarding visa to the states, if someone cant have it then they have to accept it
are u telling me that if they cant get visa, then they camp at the embassy waiting for a miracle?
thats more bullcrap and it might earn a butt kicking out of the embassy due to time constraints
gamers last year face the facts that they cant get the visas and move on
same thing happens if peeps cant get into the qualifiers next week, u still move on with life
players need to play a part and do what they can to get a spot, if they cant do that then tough luck
so if ur saying that the organizers are not doing their job well, u think u can do a better job then?
if not then just shutup and watch, they know what they are doing


yea, cry to my mommy, i never face much pressure, im staying in kl, if you dunno anything, you better shuddap.
getting a visa its not all on organizer side, US embassy is looking at ur personal income and ur family income status too.
wat for they camp at embassy? you no brain or wat? organizer can organize thing for you, but what gamers need to do is move thier ass on.
i never asking much, i just strongly disagree of 1st come 1st serve basis, you may let gamers know registration info earlier, 1st come 1st server basis via internet registration look more better, but 1st come 1st serve basis travelling to KL without a confirm spot, so, jali...use ur mind, if there is a tourney you wanna join, it locate in europe, it 32 player 1st come 1st serve basis, would you thinking of going there? we all can talk, you say you might, but i could even say, taking flight for 24 hours to get there without a confirm spot, you wont so stupid and do that.

player need to play a part?? be what part?? show gamers got no life, camp early morning in lowyat?? show the lifeless?show how "otaku" gamers are?

organizer do know that they doing, im not saying they dunno, just you dunno how to use ur brain. im just giving suggestion, as you see, i never say the organizer stupid, i say it dis-organize, without a confirm play time, what time would player would be play, if player from others states, dun even know wat time they play, and if final on sunday?monday got work?what time they should buy thier ticket?? i saying the dis-organize regarding this.

and you know what, i would like to shutup, but i cant, coz when i see brainless ppl, seriously....but yea..i can do better than in2....every event obviously got ppl complaint, but i confirm i can done better than in2.
shoot me if u can, i believe if you never done a big event b4, you better keep your hand off the keyboard though.

btw, i never see naka post, regarding ur issues, it is confirm human like to complaint, but just the matter of how you guys reduce the event complaint.
you may get complaint from host, gamers, clients or even press for not arranging stuff from them, but if really organize well, there is no much complaint about that, if gamers complaint about fees so expensive, first of all, there is not much gamers complaint regarding the fees issues. obviously everyone would think of instead paying money, i prefer get it free, dun tell me you doesnt have the same thinking, at least i rather pay, when i pay something, i obviously expect a return of better service or product.
but i think in2 wanted see the crowd actually.

so, it come to jali so-called passion, it need passion, u can save money even, but halo, not for unconfirmed spot, i think ppl from others states even sabah or sarawak, prefer confirmed a spot and pay money instead of camping outside lowyat to get unconfirmed spot, you will know, there always so called 1st come 1st basis, but it never successful, might as well consider of if there others states player coming, why dont getting a spot for them.

well, naka i am certainly not flaming you, i would rather see jali and mutsumi saying gamers need passion, they do need, bcoz they staying kl and not others, you know...if you saying word like, "too bad, move to kl next time" "stay in kl next time" "just come camp and rent a room early", there is so "SAMI-VELLU" thinking, dun use the toll la if u dun like, dun stay in malaysia la if you dun like.
consider the age of gamers dude, saving money and getting hotel here from others states, or you never thinking out of the world? just living in ur own world?


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QUOTE(guardioo @ May 25 2008, 02:19 PM)
first of all, jali, i never complaint about no tourney.
and 2nd, mutsumi, i kinda feel like u like a so called act pro in gaming community like that.
if you think you really went to singapore wcg and be a marshall and proud of it, yea, go for it.
yea, cry to my mommy,  i never face much pressure, im staying in kl, if you dunno anything, you better shuddap.
getting a visa its not all on organizer side, US embassy is looking at ur personal income and ur family income status too.
wat for they camp at embassy? you no brain or wat? organizer can organize thing for you, but what gamers need to do is move thier ass on.
i never asking much, i just strongly disagree of 1st come 1st serve basis, you may let gamers know registration info earlier, 1st come 1st server basis via internet registration look more better, but 1st come 1st serve basis travelling to KL without a confirm spot, so, jali...use ur mind, if there is a tourney you wanna join, it locate in europe, it  32 player 1st come 1st serve basis, would you thinking of going there? we all can talk, you say you might, but i could even say, taking flight for 24 hours to get there without a confirm spot, you wont so stupid and do that.

player need to play a part?? be what part?? show gamers got no life, camp early morning in lowyat?? show the lifeless?show how "otaku" gamers are?

organizer do know that they doing, im not saying they dunno, just you dunno how to use ur brain. im just giving suggestion, as you see, i never say the organizer stupid, i say it dis-organize, without a confirm play time, what time would player would be play, if player from others states, dun even know wat time they play, and if final on sunday?monday got work?what time they should buy thier ticket?? i saying the dis-organize regarding this.

and you know what, i would like to shutup, but i cant, coz when i see brainless ppl, seriously....but yea..i can do better than in2....every event obviously got ppl complaint, but i confirm i can done better than in2.
shoot me if u can, i believe if you never done a big event b4, you better keep your hand off the keyboard though.
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Nope i still be goin to europe. Bcoz you donno how much i want it. Those who know me know i m willing to do it.


The date has been stated Friday and Saturday 30th and 31st May. Registration on Friday 11am. How come donno?


Gaming is part of life. Gaming is life.


Shoot me if you can too, i believe if you have never sacrifice to join a tourney, if you have never win a tourney, if you have never have the heart to be a champ, you better keep your brain in your head.


And i aint talking bout no tourney. I m talking bout ppl giving such brilliant excuses which they thought might make them look so good.


But in the end, its just excuses.
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certainly, i doenst know how much you want, becoz i doesnt know you much in real life.
i do join tourney, i do win some tourney b4, yea, i never be a champ, if you really have the heart for gaming, i never stop you and salute, everyone have thier own thinking, but a local tourney making it so hard for malaysian, what come the international tourney? as asia wcg surpose to host final in malaysia, why would it back to singapore coz of organizer doesnt prepare well.

sorry jali, just i disagree with ur thinking of gamers should done all thier can to join the tourney, we do appriciate organizer having tourney, but not tourney like this.

i could even tell you, previously i get a spot for ut2k4 for my team for going singapore for gxl season 1. becoz we qualify it.

my passport expired that time, and the prize just rm400, after seperate and travel to singapore plus staying in hotel, we fork out more than what we earn, i never complaint though, i went and change the passport, if you think tat really cheap, staying 150sgd per night is not cheap.

so jali, who giving so called brilliant excuses to make them look good?
who giving excuses anyway?
i doesnt even play fifa, dota or warcraft3. it just voicing out opinion.

im not even joining the awcg, i just point out the weakness, a person who doesnt join they tourney complaint about how bad is the organizer,

if you really seen any tournament, please just take a look all the oversea small tourney...early registration and not first come first serve, how can you expect a time schedule of first come first serve???

oh yea, i salute organizer expecting slot to be full, and salute they can giving time schedule without team confirmation, u doesnt need to accept my opinion, coz its just a forum for us to voice out the safisfaction and disatifaction, eventhough rules applied.

oh btw, if you wonder why i shooting mutsumi? one of CS player doesnt get visa and others move on, yeap, but they even prefer to play with correct teammate just they no choice. organiser can help thing done only..but not all.

well, jali u giving wrong word.
"Gaming is part my of life. Life is gamble" where just for jali, i never say you crazy in quitting education, if earlier, i rather advise you not to do so? you taking gaming as a career, i just wish u luck.

if u looking at dota/cs competition in local, there is plenty of others state clan even travel and play. bcoz they know they able to play.

im not shooting you, as u already taken gaming as ur career, im just shooting organizer.
well, you shooting me bcoz of im not taking part of tourney or wat? if there is a game of my choice, i luv to join.

also, im joining the tf2 tourney in subang square, yes..it required registration fees, earlier was 5v5, i do take initiative to join the tourney, and i didnt complaint the subang square tf2 tournament. you can look at the prize though, it not much at all.

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QUOTE(guardioo @ May 25 2008, 02:19 PM)
first of all, jali, i never complaint about no tourney.
and 2nd, mutsumi, i kinda feel like u like a so called act pro in gaming community like that.
if you think you really went to singapore wcg and be a marshall and proud of it, yea, go for it.
yea, cry to my mommy,  i never face much pressure, im staying in kl, if you dunno anything, you better shuddap.
getting a visa its not all on organizer side, US embassy is looking at ur personal income and ur family income status too.
wat for they camp at embassy? you no brain or wat? organizer can organize thing for you, but what gamers need to do is move thier ass on.
i never asking much, i just strongly disagree of 1st come 1st serve basis, you may let gamers know registration info earlier, 1st come 1st server basis via internet registration look more better, but 1st come 1st serve basis travelling to KL without a confirm spot, so, jali...use ur mind, if there is a tourney you wanna join, it locate in europe, it  32 player 1st come 1st serve basis, would you thinking of going there? we all can talk, you say you might, but i could even say, taking flight for 24 hours to get there without a confirm spot, you wont so stupid and do that.

player need to play a part?? be what part?? show gamers got no life, camp early morning in lowyat?? show the lifeless?show how "otaku" gamers are?

organizer do know that they doing, im not saying they dunno, just you dunno how to use ur brain. im just giving suggestion, as you see, i never say the organizer stupid, i say it dis-organize, without a confirm play time, what time would player would be play, if player from others states, dun even know wat time they play, and if final on sunday?monday got work?what time they should buy thier ticket?? i saying the dis-organize regarding this.

and you know what, i would like to shutup, but i cant, coz when i see brainless ppl, seriously....but yea..i can do better than in2....every event obviously got ppl complaint, but i confirm i can done better than in2.
shoot me if u can, i believe if you never done a big event b4, you better keep your hand off the keyboard though.

btw, i never see naka post, regarding ur issues, it is confirm human like to complaint, but just the matter of how you guys reduce the event complaint.
you may get complaint from host, gamers, clients or even press for not arranging stuff from them, but if really organize well, there is no much complaint about that, if gamers complaint about fees so expensive, first of all, there is not much gamers complaint regarding the fees issues. obviously everyone would think of instead paying money, i prefer get it free, dun tell me you doesnt have the same thinking, at least i rather pay, when i pay something, i obviously expect a return of better service or product.
but i think in2 wanted see the crowd actually.

so, it come to jali so-called passion, it need passion, u can save money even, but halo, not for unconfirmed spot, i think ppl from others states even sabah or sarawak, prefer confirmed a spot and pay money instead of camping outside lowyat to get unconfirmed spot, you will know, there always so called 1st come 1st basis, but it never successful, might as well consider of if there others states player coming, why dont getting a spot for them.

well, naka i am certainly not flaming you, i would rather see jali and mutsumi saying gamers need passion, they do need, bcoz they staying kl and not others, you know...if you saying word like, "too bad, move to kl next time" "stay in kl next time" "just come camp and rent a room early", there is so "SAMI-VELLU" thinking, dun use the toll la if u dun like, dun stay in malaysia la if you dun like.
consider the age of gamers dude, saving money and getting hotel here from others states, or you never thinking out of the world? just living in ur own world?
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guardioo has some good points here, in my opinions. i mean regarding the unconfirmed spot for gamers that come all the way for other state.

well,its a sacrifice that they need to make actually.but perhaps organiser can take note of this issue? if not this time, maybe in future organiser can come out with a better registration method...
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In any competition or tourney not just in gaming but other thing as well, the champion is always the person who want it the most.


If you really want it, then you are willing to travel, willing to train for hours, willing to sacrifice some luxury time and etc etc.


If wanna talk about the 1st come 1st serve basis that the organizer introduce, well i believe there are reason behind it as well.


Talking about the time schedule and everything, i dont think its a big prob as long as everyone come early. The reg starts at 11am-12pm. Most probably they will start it rite after the Friday prayers and lunch.


So it will start around 2pm and end up maybe around 8-9pm. The rest of the game will be played on the next day. Since it already stated that the slot is limited, the time of each respective game can be predicted as well. Finishing of 32 players and 16 teams in 2 days is not that cramping of time at all.


Now the prob is how many pcs are located for each game. If there are more then it would be faster. if less, well since its 2 days then can still have time for it.


In2 is not the 1st time to organize WCG. And i believe with their exp such thing has been thought thru. Plus we should give credit to them because they take note of every complaint that everyone has been making and they tried to improve year after year.


1st it was about the gaming fee. Then its about the prizes. Then its about sending the 1st runner up to Grand Final which they did in 05 but after that they couldnt support it. And now making a qualifier for WCG Asia although they dont have to since they can always choose last year champion.


But to be fair and to encourage more competitive healthy gaming scene in Malaysia they still do it. This show how In2 are really listening to everybody.


But sometimes there are things which i feel are useless to listen too. Like ppl complaining why no this game la or why so far la, or the date is not nice la, i have to work la and etc etc.


All of this cannot be accomodate for everyone. There will always be flaw in anything that we do. A good suggestion is always appreciated. But things like on the above is too much. Just because a team or a player is from outstate they should rethink about everything. My own teammates some are not even from KL but i dont see they complaining about this in the thread. They will still come earlier. The only think they ask is about the FIFA rules thats all.


Although it would be nice that its not 1st come 1st serve basis but it shouldnt be something ppl find point to argue about. Or asking for exemption just bcoz they are outstation. If afraid that unthinkable might happen so dont take Konsortium. You definitely wont reach KL if you took that bus for sure.


If they think that people are afraid that others might come earlier, its your own fault. You should have come more earlier than them. The solution is so simple but ppl are complaining like it such a big thing.


So if you really are a pro gamer, just be prepare for the worst. Thats how many great people in the world achieve success. Ppl like Donald Trump expect the worst everytime he go into a deal. Dont believe me? Read his book. I read it.


And you dont see those great gamers in Malaysia posting things like this asking this and that or complaining this and that. Because they just dont care. Because whatever it is about the tourney, they will still come and win it. Because they prepared for it. Somehow its funny to me that those who make the loudest noise never win.



So whatever the organizer might come up such small things like this later on, deal with it. If have to pay, just pay if you wanna play. If have to come early, then just come early if you wanna play. If have to rent a hotel, then just rent it if you wanna play. If have to whatsoeva later on, then just do it if you wanna play.



Summore seeing from this that ppl are complaining about such small issues, it shows how well In2 manage the situation that they have solve all big issues that might ruin a tourney. They have solve all issue that those who just like to look at the flaw of the organizer have to complain about such small things.


But i do hope the organizer will look into this since its the 1st time they introduce 1st come 1st serve. Previously it was unlimited. Maybe next time organizer can do a separate qualifier in Sabah or Sarawak which allow them to confirm at least a spot.


So again guys, its all about who wants to play more. Its still about:

1. Dedication
2. Passion
3. Discipline


Those who will be there early at the counter, have this trait. Doesnt matter if their in game skills are not good or not. They willing to sacrifice because they are dedicated, they are passionate about the game and they are discipline for being early.


So dont blame anyone for your losses. Blame yourself for your own fault.


So i end my karangan with a poem which inspire me a lot:


If you think you are beaten, you are.
If you think you dare not, you dont.
If you like to win, but you think you cant,
It is almost certain you wont.


If you think you'll lose, you're lost,
For out of the world we find,
Success begins with a fellow's will---
Its all in the STATE OF MIND.


If you think you are outclassed, you are,
You've got to think high to rise,
You've got to be sure of yourself before
You can ever win a prize.


LIFE's BATTLES DONT ALWAYS GO
TO THE STRONGER OR FASTER MAN,
BUT SOON OR LATE THE MAN WHO WINS
IS THE MAN WHO THINKS HE CAN.




I hope everyone else can understand the meaning of this poem and together we will become a better and stronger gaming community ^^
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Claps jali nice 1 totally back u up!
Ur words Inspire others to realise their dream!!
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this thread become AWCG kopitiam pulak hahahahaha



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QUOTE(Rin @ si_jali @ May 25 2008, 08:27 PM)
But i do hope the organizer will look into this since its the 1st time they introduce 1st come 1st serve. Previously it was unlimited. Maybe next time organizer can do a separate qualifier in Sabah or Sarawak which allow them to confirm at least a spot.
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Good essay Jali. There are a lot of issues that we all need to think about to be honest. Organizer always trying their best to accomodate everyone, however, things won't just go smoothly. There's always an issue comes up from no where.

There's once, back in year 2005 or 2006, there's qualifier in Sabah and Sarawak and also other states in Msia. But i personally think it did not work out well. Or else, it will be a qualifier since then.

By the way, i will update the organizer about this =)

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well said jali...!!!
n u too nitron!!!
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Ok. After the discussions among everyone and the management, there's a new solution for this.

ALL gamers can COME FOR THIS QUALIFIER! You all can register your team or yourself for the games that you want to play. After that, we will do balloting. Fair enough. No complains. We will pick or even the gamers whoever wish to pick can come up to the stage and pick as well. We will pick till the slots are full. That's it.

Whichever way, for sure i know there's complains. People will say "oh my god, i come all the way here, and end up i can't get a slot?" This is fully depends on your luck now. Don't like first come first serve? So this is the only way we can accomodate EVERYONE !

Don't tell me, "oh why cannot open more slot?" Well, well, like i said, if we can, for sure we will do it, you really think we like complains so much? Do you really think we are so free, everyday just listen to complains, you all have to know that, we do what we can do, we do our best for you all. For sure there's some reasons behind that does not allow us to do it, and it is not necessary for us to point out what's this and that to you all one by one.

Leave your feedback again or complains or whatever you want.

I will go through.

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waah...
u all can be a good motivater ( in gaming) in the near future...xD
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http://my.worldcybergames.com/article/read...rs-registration

UPDATED!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ May 26 2008, 12:10 PM)
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so, r u blaiming me for the complain??or so called feedback?

i rather not saying much of jali karangan, this is his career, if gamers inspire from his karangan, let it be, not like i can stop ppl from gaming, as gaming is part of life.

there is not much complain? in whole thread, the post till now, you only see im the one who only posting, i still thinking why cant just doing online registration?
if max slot is 16, you may open few slot for online registration and others slot first come first server or the way u choosing for balloting.
or heck, just all the way go for 1st come 1st server or balloting, like i say, i dont care, as i doesnt play any of the game in awcg, so...you can create or make anything you like, or even cancel the game take long time, i even support that.

i never think you very free naka, i do know u got other event, if ur company just depend on wcg itself, ur company already bankrupt.
i doesnt need ur explanation, you doesnt need to point out tis tat one by one, obviously either from in2 management, from main sponsor management or even venue host.
i wouldnt know, im not you..

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QUOTE(NakA @ May 26 2008, 10:12 AM)
Ok. After the discussions among everyone and the management, there's a new solution for this.

ALL gamers can COME FOR THIS QUALIFIER! You all can register your team or yourself for the games that you want to play. After that, we will do balloting. Fair enough. No complains. We will pick or even the gamers whoever wish to pick can come up to the stage and pick as well. We will pick till the slots are full. That's it.

Whichever way, for sure i know there's complains. People will say "oh my god, i come all the way here, and end up i can't get a slot?" This is fully depends on your luck now. Don't like first come first serve? So this is the only way we can accomodate EVERYONE !

Don't tell me, "oh why cannot open more slot?" Well, well, like i said, if we can, for sure we will do it, you really think we like complains so much? Do you really think we are so free, everyday just listen to complains, you all have to know that, we do what we can do, we do our best for you all. For sure there's some reasons behind that does not allow us to do it, and it is not necessary for us to point out what's this and that to you all one by one.

Leave your feedback again or complains or whatever you want.

I will go through.
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i seriusly dont think this is the right solution!

what u guys trying to do here is PURELY on INCREASING the CHANCE for outstation gamers to play in this acg prelim and not solving that issue at all.

So now no point gamers come early to register. Even gamers have infinity passion for the game, now i purely depends on my lady luck to have a chance to play in this acg prelim.

If we calc properly..this method surely will generate more risk compare to the first come first serve basis.

Even the best gamers in malaysia now face the chance to miss out this prelim..and god bless malaysia squad in upcoming acg.

just a piece of opinions from an inexperience part time gamer here..

no offence to in2, naka and to whom it may concern.

fyi, i m not fighting this for my own..i m not joining this acg prelim as well.

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yeah!!!good type registration...hope good gamer cant get spot..
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i really do not think lucky draw would be a good idea 2 choose teams 2 compete in the qualifier also , if the number of people registering is high , and those good players might really miss out a spot 2 compete.. , after all the point of this qualifier is to choose the "best" to represent the country for acg rite ? well juz my opinion though blush.gif
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QUOTE(syahril206 @ May 26 2008, 12:48 PM)
yeah!!!good type registration...hope good gamer cant get spot..
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yeah and the registration process became from the bestest to the bestoooooooooost biggrin.gif
its now a gamble instead of a waiting game
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QUOTE(gM | Mutsumi-san @ May 26 2008, 01:24 PM)
yeah and the registration process became from the bestest to the bestoooooooooost  biggrin.gif
its now a gamble instead of a waiting game
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so mutsimi..now no need to do camping redi la..

boleh bangun tidur lambat sikit ya.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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LUCKY DRAW???!!!!!!!!!!

huahhahhahahhahhhahhahhaha..lawak nyeeee.......sangat2 lawak..SO damn funny!!! huhahhahaha rclxm9.gif

how bout, all the previous champ also join the lucky draw??are u (the champ) dare guys?? hmm.gif
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lol it would be fun to do this lucky draw.


The pros is ppl do not need to worry to come early and afraid that the slot will finish. Everyone can register.


But the cons is it is base on luck. It would be the 1st time such reg method ever implemented.


So whoever have been praying more to God will get the spot. So there will be more ppl goin to mosque,church,temple and etc etc... which is quite good also.. lol


Just maintain the 1st come 1st serve basis. At least it is base on the effort of the player and not purely base on luck.
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QUOTE(morusa @ May 26 2008, 02:09 PM)
LUCKY DRAW???!!!!!!!!!!

huahhahhahahhahhhahhahhaha..lawak nyeeee.......sangat2 lawak..SO damn funny!!! huhahhahaha rclxm9.gif

how bout, all the previous champ also join the lucky draw??are u (the champ) dare guys?? hmm.gif
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forza? join the draw man! hahah..
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QUOTE(arroyos @ May 26 2008, 01:45 PM)
so mutsimi..now no need to do camping redi la..

boleh bangun tidur lambat sikit ya.. thumbup.gif    thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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i'll wake up at 11am then take my sweet time to go to lowyat biggrin.gif
now that the chances of being in the tournament drops, might as well lay back and relax abit
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the 1st come 1st serve basis, that one i have no comments..but of coz some gamers not satisfy...everybody has their own opinion.. cool2.gif

but, for lucky draw.even Si_Jali dowan..lalallallalala whistling.gif

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1 question...for dota after registration/lucky draw then 12.30pm start right? Da tourney need 1 day to finish or 2 day(Sunday)?

About the 1st come 1st serve basis...its not that good. Then maybe that day it will be overcrowded and what if all reach early and all will rush to do the registration..but if lucky draw also not bad..since most of the dota teams are casual gamers(my assumption). But for those team outside of kl/selangor then maybe they wont come lo..

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QUOTE
1. All team leaders are to come on 30th May, Friday between 6pm to 7pm to register for their teams
3. All registrants are to come at 11:30am to Plaza Low Yat (Outdoor) on 31st May, Saturday, where we will pick the lucky 15 teams (+1 team last year's champion).

source: http://my.worldcybergames.com/article/read...rs-registration

something to add, shouldnt it be like 32+1 champ for individual?
and 16+1 champ for team?
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if lucky draw basis...then, i will not join this tournament..it is just wasting my time to take leave n go there n suddenly didnt get spot..boring2..


the rest of u, have fun!!! n GOOD LUCK!!!<---- since the spot base on luck!!huhaahhahahah!!


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I'm giving my 2 cents *keeeetcheeeng*

Scrap all this lucky draw or first come first serve BS. Since there are 32 slots, give 16 slots to the best top 16 gamers/teams based on performance in all gaming competition organised by the organiser.

I've stumbled upon a reality show before about a situation similar like this. What the organiser for that event did was having speed rounds to see who can qualify for the slots. Players are required to play their own game with very short time limits to qualify.

Probably that would solve the remaining 16 slots.

If this goes on, we might not have the best player representing our country for AWCG.

OR worse we might see a thread called "<WTAuction> Slot for AWCG" on the day itself.
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lol
i kinda speechless, but i think organiser thought is ballot, voting via crowd voice.
I would like to see WTS slot for AWCG itself.
if just based on lucky draw, kinda unfair to all gamers, i do prefer twenty06 advise by given slot to gamers/teams based on performance in all gaming competition organised by the organiser.
or just first come first serve, at least some effort of going early.( where you make a brilliant registration, when ppl compare 2 choices of registration, obviously goes to 1st come 1st serve basis)

but hell, tis is much more funny than i thought, nice 1 organiser, please just go ahead with ballot system, you making my day.

anymore input for organiser guys?

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yup agree with twenty that the objective is still to pick the best for the country.




lol whatever it is start pray more,fasting if u must and do more good deeds this week.
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kindly donate money to myanmar and china for those who lost thier home and family.

donate money to whose needed.

fasting is not necessary, but do appriciate all the food you eat, whatever u order, finish it.

crap, we going morale class now?
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Was planning to stop replying after looking at the "camp out" idea which makes very good sense considering the system we had in place at the beginning.

With this lucky draw idea being brought up , even passion , discipline and determination will not be enough to secure your spot anymore.

Totally agree with twenty06 idea. Let the top 16 of individual and top 8 for Group games in skill be automatically placed in the brackets and let the other half be on first come first serve basis / lucky draw. That way , a balance can be attained between both ideas and the top players will still be representing Malaysia in the end.

For Dota , a simple check on this year's threads of tourneys in this forum can give you a rough idea of who the top 8 is. If you want to save time , just contact me through pm and I will give you a summary of all those results (Yes, I keep them for seeding purposes to advise organisers on seedings on their own tournaments.) and if need be , a recomendation of the 8 teams to be seeded directly into the brackets.

As 1 of the organisers of the of last years ACG qualifiers for Dota , we actually invited teams that has done reasonably well in tourneys to participate in order to save time and to ensure the quality of teams in our limited brackets. We called each team to confirm their participation before entering them into the brackets.

In the end , 15 teams of which half of those are from outstation made it to Cybertime OUG despite the 2 day notice given from us and the winner an almost foregone conclusion. As expected the dominant team of that time, Cybertime 1 (ROA) won in a pulsating final and represented Malaysia to 2nd place in ACG last year.

No complaints were uttered throughout in the whole event because of the diverse teams and fairness in the process of picking the teams that deserved to be there.

Given a chance , we would gladly help out in ensuring the system is implemented again . But since its under the a different management team now, I surely hope that no less effort is being done to ensure the best team represent Malaysia this time and claim that Asian Champion Title which is rightfully ours.
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This Should be the most interesting ACG qualifier yet ... lucky i stop playin edi coz i am not tat sortta lucky guy ^^ Gamers start Showering in Holy Water rclxms.gif drool.gif

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QUOTE(underminer @ May 27 2008, 01:10 AM)
Was planning to stop replying after looking at the "camp out" idea which makes very good sense considering the system we had in place at the beginning.

With this lucky draw idea being brought up , even passion , discipline and determination will not be enough to secure your spot anymore.

Totally agree with twenty06 idea. Let the top 16 of individual and top 8 for Group games in skill be automatically placed in the brackets and let the other half be on first come first serve basis / lucky draw. That way , a balance can be attained between both ideas and the top players will still be representing Malaysia in the end.

For Dota , a simple check on this year's threads of tourneys in this forum can give you a rough idea of who the top 8 is. If you want to save time , just contact me through pm and I will give you a summary of all those results (Yes, I keep them for seeding purposes to advise organisers on seedings on their own tournaments.) and if need be , a recomendation of the 8 teams to be seeded directly into the brackets.

As 1 of the organisers of the of last years ACG qualifiers for Dota , we actually invited teams that has done reasonably well in tourneys to participate in order to save time and to ensure the quality of teams in our limited brackets. We called each team to confirm their participation before entering them into the brackets.

In the end , 15 teams of which half of those are from outstation made it to Cybertime OUG despite the 2 day notice given from us and the winner an almost foregone conclusion. As expected the dominant team of that time, Cybertime 1 (ROA) won in a pulsating final and represented Malaysia to 2nd place in ACG last year.

No complaints were uttered throughout in the whole event because of the diverse teams and fairness in the process of picking the teams that deserved to be there.

Given a chance , we would gladly help out in ensuring the system is implemented again . But since its under the a different management team now, I surely hope that no less effort is being done to ensure the best team represent Malaysia this time and claim that Asian Champion Title which is rightfully ours.
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cool . . . . mayb underminer can give us a summary here if possible ?? notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(twenty06 @ May 26 2008, 02:44 PM)
I'm giving my 2 cents *keeeetcheeeng*

Scrap all this lucky draw or first come first serve BS. Since there are 32 slots, give 16 slots to the best top 16 gamers/teams based on performance in all gaming competition organised by the organiser.

I've stumbled upon a reality show before about a situation similar like this. What the organiser for that event did was having speed rounds to see who can qualify for the slots. Players are required to play their own game with very short time limits to qualify.

Probably that would solve the remaining 16 slots.

If this goes on, we might not have the best player representing our country for AWCG.

OR worse we might see a thread called "<WTAuction> Slot for AWCG" on the day itself.
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Eddy, you're the SMARTEST! thumbup.gif

I'm still WAITING for the confirmed rules for FIFA08 though.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(twenty06 @ May 26 2008, 02:44 PM)
I'm giving my 2 cents *keeeetcheeeng*

Scrap all this lucky draw or first come first serve BS. Since there are 32 slots, give 16 slots to the best top 16 gamers/teams based on performance in all gaming competition organised by the organiser.

I've stumbled upon a reality show before about a situation similar like this. What the organiser for that event did was having speed rounds to see who can qualify for the slots. Players are required to play their own game with very short time limits to qualify.

Probably that would solve the remaining 16 slots.

If this goes on, we might not have the best player representing our country for AWCG.

OR worse we might see a thread called "<WTAuction> Slot for AWCG" on the day itself.
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Eddy, GOOD !!! i agree with your idea
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Eddy, GOOD !!! i agree with your idea
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Bro, lucky or not lucky is another thing but putting the whole qualifier at a risk of not even a top gamer is picked, it makes no difference to have a qualifier at all. Just send the previous champs are enough then but if like what Eddy said, half of the spots are given to top gamers based on seedings then it would be much better since at least there are 16 GOOD gamers in the qualifier instead of a probability of only rookies playing the qualifier in the end, it would be too easy and boring for si_jali lolz. After all, the top gamers in Msia definitely deserve their places in tourneys IF only the qualifiers are really intended to find Msia's BEST gamers.

By the way, i've heard that the FIFA08 will not be patched too?? If this is really true, then i would be really speechless. Do the organizers have any idea that a patched version is totally different than an unpatched version? Also, using the FIFA07 rules? I wonder how the champ that represents Msia to play in SG will play like if he's playing on a gameplay with rules that are totally different than the ACG Finals..

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QUOTE(twenty06 @ May 26 2008, 03:44 PM)
I'm giving my 2 cents *keeeetcheeeng*

Scrap all this lucky draw or first come first serve BS. Since there are 32 slots, give 16 slots to the best top 16 gamers/teams based on performance in all gaming competition organised by the organiser.

I've stumbled upon a reality show before about a situation similar like this. What the organiser for that event did was having speed rounds to see who can qualify for the slots. Players are required to play their own game with very short time limits to qualify.

Probably that would solve the remaining 16 slots.

If this goes on, we might not have the best player representing our country for AWCG.

OR worse we might see a thread called "<WTAuction> Slot for AWCG" on the day itself.
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I think this is the best solution so far. Having a Lucky Draw to pick participants doesn't sounds right for a QUALIFIER. It looks like the most luckiest people get to represent Msia for AWCG. If it were to be the luckiest player to play against Jali, might as well cancel the qualifier and straight away send Jali there. If for me to vote between 'first come first serve' or lucky draw BS, i will go for 'first come first serve'. At least the players will fight for their spot rather than just waiting to be lucily participated.

While for twenty06's idea, it is quite fair because those top players get to participate and the others can participate as well. What i can suggest here is to place the top16 of last year's WCG first into the qualifier. Then cancel those names if they didn't register on friday and open the slot to public.

Anyway, this is just my suggestion. I have no intention in criticizing the method of doing qualifier. I just want the best for the gamers around.


Thank You !
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What does ACG stands for? I thought ACG stands for Asian Cyber Games xD

This should be AWCG, Asian World Cyber Games right?
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Yeah,wasnt ACG the acronym of Asian Cyber Games?Shouldnt everyone be mentioning WCG Asian Championship or just WCG AC?But back to the important issue,it is Tuesday already and I hope that angelstarz or NakA is carefully reading all latest posts and opinions by other gamers and shall consider to implement twenty06's idea for this competition. biggrin.gif rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
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If the seedings method were to be use in fifa,there are many competitions we can use for the seedings.What i suggest is we take the top16 of ALL competitions last year. We do have a summary or players overall performance based on every competition in 2007. I suggest if the seedings method were to be used,that will be a very good guideline to refer to as that seedings involve EVERY competition last year.

2007 fifa overall ranking can be found here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/534217/+20
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why dont you all passed the seeding to organiser?
if that the new game? then of course based on 1st come 1st basis.

obviously i doesnt know much seeding for fifa and nfs and dota
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Yeah,wasnt ACG the acronym of Asian Cyber Games?Shouldnt everyone be mentioning WCG Asian Championship or just WCG AC?But back to the important issue,it is Tuesday already and I hope that angelstarz or NakA is carefully reading all latest posts and opinions by other gamers and shall consider to implement twenty06's idea for this competition. biggrin.gif  rclxm9.gif  thumbup.gif
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I thought this qualifer is held to choose the best team to represent Malaysia and fight for the country pride? Now is become like the lucky guy only able to join this qualifier? So this qualifier is held to choose the most lucky guy in the country to represent Malaysia? Mean a pro team/gamer that very skillful but because they are not lucky enough so they are unable to join, at last the most lucky guy that without skill win it and represent our country to show out all his "noob" skill to all our neighbour country? This got what different with throwing our country name into the dust bin? Luck or Skill?

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i think they nid to compete with the strongest team in malaysia before they represent our country lor.....
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I have no idea why there's always this and that. ALWAYS ! So, tell me, what's next, WHAT ? I will go through again, since it's on this FRIDAY. I will see what i can do, the decision is not on my hand tho.

I know lots ppl saying organiser is stupid, oh how can they do this? Some must be thinking, if me organise, i sure can do it better. Don't deny, and say oh, i never think so. I BET YOU DO!

However, we already try our best to do everything, its everything ya. Why will we change first come first serve? WHY ? think about it... after change, another issue pops out, So, now, what's now?

I am not trying to offence anyone, but put yourself on our shoes, think about it..

A said this, B said that? HOW? If i follow A, B will piss off, and complain, if i follow B, A will say this and that? How to satisfy everyone? Is there any way to do so? If you do, tell me please.

I did see eddy's suggestion and thank you for that. but if we do that, i swear, there will be people complain again, for sure. Maybe they will be like, hey this is not fair, that's previous year and so on.. you see, either way, sure there's complaints. SO I THINK in SHORT BETTER stick back to FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, is that BETTER? or you all prefer some other thing again. Just say it out.

p/s:Gamma2k, you really think a lucky one can win a game, when he is a noob? Well, i can never deny sometimes u need luck for some competition. BUT IF he is really a noob, do you think he has the skills to win? If that noob will be able to win our previous year's champion. Then he is not a noob tho..

Thank you all, and have a good one =)


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I have no idea why there's always this and that. ALWAYS ! So, tell me, what's next, WHAT ? I will go through again, since it's on this FRIDAY. I will see what i can do, the decision is not on my hand tho.

I know lots ppl saying organiser is stupid, oh how can they do this? Some must be thinking, if me organise, i sure can do it better. Don't deny, and say oh, i never think so. I BET YOU DO!

However, we already try our best to do everything, its everything ya. Why will we change first come first serve? WHY ? think about it... after change, another issue pops out, So, now, what's now?

I am not trying to offence anyone, but put yourself on our shoes, think about it..

A said this, B said that? HOW? If i follow A, B will piss off, and complain, if i follow B, A will say this and that? How to satisfy everyone? Is there any way to do so? If you do, tell me please.

I did see eddy's suggestion and thank you for that. but if we do that, i swear, there will be people complain again, for sure. Maybe they will be like, hey this is not fair, that's previous year and so on.. you see, either way, sure there's complaints. SO I THINK in SHORT BETTER stick back to FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, is that BETTER? or you all prefer some other thing again. Just say it out.

p/s:Gamma2k, you really think a lucky one can win a game, when he is a noob? Well, i can never deny sometimes u need luck for some competition. BUT IF he is really a noob, do you think he has the skills to win? If that noob will be able to win our previous year's champion. Then he is not a noob tho..

Thank you all, and have a good one =)
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Well personally i know exactly how organizing a big event can be really hard but also frankly i'm saying that if you guys change it to a LUCKY DRAW system, it is in no way that you're improving things but instead putting the whole meaning of the event into the bin. It's very very normal that there will be definitely some people who protest, it's impossible if everyone will agree on a single thing. So listen to the majority, ignore the 1-2 people who think differently.

Think reasonably and fairly, taking half of the spots (16 out of 32) and give them to the Top Gamers based on current seedings is a brilliant step. As i said those top gamers who already fought and performed well previously deserved to have their spots while others still have their 16 spots, so it's not unfair. This method is the best because the qualifier will still have at least 16 of Msia's best performers to compete which i think these people obviously and definitely have more experiences than newbies. Think again and it's a wise choice, especially if Msia really wants to pick the best ones to fight in the Finals in SG.

Thanks for the notice and considerations. Btw, can we (FIFA gamers) be enlightened on what is the finalized and confirmed FIFA08 rules please?
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Just Wondering who are the Majority people?i see most of them are the same people posting?

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Besides, pre-registration? How it works? Can tell me? so whoever 32 register first, then the slots close? So, ppl at that time can say, oh my internet not working? oh i am busy that time? oh i am not at home that time?

Good one on seeding as well. So that means Msia always having same gamers roll and roll, i fight you, you fight me. What if there's a good one, actually he stands a chance to join, but, because seeding, he missed out? So this isn't fair to him as well. There's nothing fair to be honest. It's just that you scare you lose a chance? You can't represent Msia? What about others? If that's the case, only 16 ppl stand a chance?

What happen if you are the one who's not in the seeding? How will you feel? I am a normal player, i trained and try my best, but i only have 1/16 possibility to get a slot. Think about it, those who post all the times are the one who's on lowyat. I do believe there's ppl who's not on there too. So is this fair to those who's not on lowyat? Ok, you may say they are noob, beginner or whatever? But are you not a noob before? PPL Join just because they want to gain more experience, but even this little chance, you also don't give ppl, so is this call fair? And the so called TOP PPL like you all, every year also seeding, is it fair as well? Then might as well, we don't need to have WCG Qualifier for National Championship? Seed you all, that will be enough. Isn't that right? So we can send best of the best to Germany this year, don't need to bother about those "NOOB" or whatever it is.

Upset about In2? Why do In2 want to organize this? The reason is because In2 wants to let everyone has a chance to join eventhough they know they cannot accomodate a lot of ppl, but at least they try. If not, why will they bother? They can just send Jali, Forza and etc over to SG, why they want to find trouble themselves and let ppl complain about them being stupid? Ridiculous? Do you think organizer will feel nice? It's like Hey, you this gamer, you are so stupid, do you feel nice? do you? i am asking you! whoever you are...

You all think about it, don't just know how to complain. Every reasons have their own pros and cons. You all just keep telling me about the advantage of seeding? what about disadvantages? Do you all really ever think about that? Don't tell me there's none.. it's f*king bullshit if you tell me that..

Before Eddy posted about the seeding, why there's no one mention about that? Well, i did not say Eddy's suggestion is not good, however, what's the point? Like you all said, choose best of the best? Or should i just say it's just a selfish thought about ownself? Why do i only see those who knows themselves confirm get a slot one keep posting about seeding? Can i refer that as selfish? Can i? If not let me know pls, i wud love to accept ur feedback.

Thanks and above is just my opinion, welcome to discuss about it, and it's nothing related with In2 at all. =)
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to be fair...why need to do the draw? and y need to limit the spot up to 32 only? n y need to do the seeding? n y seed the last champion automatically to final?

just do "open slot" registration.

so every new player, noob, taiko gamers, professional gamers, all can join this prelim!!

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Besides, pre-registration? How it works? Can tell me? so whoever 32 register first, then the slots close? So, ppl at that time can say, oh my internet not working? oh i am busy that time? oh i am not at home that time?

Good one on seeding as well. So that means Msia always having same gamers roll and roll, i fight you, you fight me. What if there's a good one, actually he stands a chance to join, but, because seeding, he missed out? So this isn't fair to him as well. There's nothing fair to be honest. It's just that you scare you lose a chance? You can't represent Msia? What about others? If that's the case, only 16 ppl stand a chance?

What happen if you are the one who's not in the seeding? How will you feel? I am a normal player, i trained and try my best, but i only have 1/16 possibility to get a slot. Think about it, those who post all the times are the one who's on lowyat. I do believe there's ppl who's not on there too. So is this fair to those who's not on lowyat? Ok, you may say they are noob, beginner or whatever? But are you not a noob before? PPL Join just because they want to gain more experience, but even this little chance, you also don't give ppl, so is this call fair? And the so called TOP PPL like you all, every year also seeding, is it fair as well? Then might as well, we don't need to have WCG Qualifier for National Championship? Seed you all, that will be enough. Isn't that right? So we can send best of the best to Germany this year, don't need to bother about those "NOOB" or whatever it is.

Upset about In2? Why do In2 want to organize this? The reason is because In2 wants to let everyone has a chance to join eventhough they know they cannot accomodate a lot of ppl, but at least they try. If not, why will they bother? They can just send Jali, Forza and etc over to SG, why they want to find trouble themselves and let ppl complain about them being stupid? Ridiculous? Do you think organizer will feel nice? It's like Hey, you this gamer, you are so stupid, do you feel nice? do you? i am asking you! whoever you are...

You all think about it, don't just know how to complain. Every reasons have their own pros and cons. You all just keep telling me about the advantage of seeding? what about disadvantages? Do you all really ever think about that? Don't tell me there's none.. it's f*king bullshit if you tell me that..

Before Eddy posted about the seeding, why there's no one mention about that? Well, i did not say Eddy's suggestion is not good, however, what's the point? Like you all said, choose best of the best? Or should i just say it's just a selfish thought about ownself? Why do i only see those who knows themselves confirm get a slot one keep posting about seeding? Can i refer that as selfish? Can i? If not let me know pls, i wud love to accept ur feedback.

Thanks and above is just my opinion, welcome to discuss about it, and it's nothing related with In2 at all. =)
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Naka, seeding for e.g (FIFA players) doesnt come to us easily. All the players battled it out the whole year just to improve their ranking. Come one man! Yes we are all once a noob! But we fought our way up till what we are now today!! The same things those GOOD one that u mentioned, they have to go through this period when they first join competitve gaming tourney! If they are good , they will make their way through the seeding, bringing down so called PRO , seeded gamers now. Its not saying we not giving them chance to gain experience, but this was we went through as well last time!

If u are really GOOD, why give a damn to those seeded gamers.. seeded gamers ? SO? doesnt mean u cant beat them down!!

and naka, as i can recalled...there is so far no tourney that auto gurantee a spot for the seeded gamers / top16 or watever it is....correct me if i m wrong.So even we are seeded, we still have to go register for e.g WCG.MY....

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Naka, seeding for e.g (FIFA players) doesnt come to us easily. All the players battled it out the whole year just to improve their ranking. Come one man! Yes we are all once a noob! But we fought our way up till what we are now today!! The same things those GOOD one that u mentioned, they have to go through this period when they first join competitve gaming tourney! If they are good , they will make their way through the seeding, bringing down so called PRO , seeded gamers now. Its not saying we not giving them chance to gain experience, but this was we went through as well last time!

If u are really GOOD, why give a damn to those seeded gamers.. seeded gamers ? SO? doesnt mean u cant beat them down!!
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QUOTE(morusa @ May 28 2008, 09:39 AM)
to be fair...why need to do the draw? and y need to limit the spot up to 32 only? n y need to do the seeding? n y seed the last champion automatically to final?

just do "open slot" registration.

so every new player, noob, taiko gamers, professional gamers, all can join this  prelim!!
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why need to do the draw? NO NEED!

y need to limit the spot up to 32 only? LIMITED TIME! ACCEPTABLE

y need to do the seeding? NO NEED!

y seed the last champion automatically to final? I ALSO DONT KNOW!


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luckily i'm not playing laugh.gif
to those who are disappointed, forget this and train hard wcg national final smile.gif
play wutever u haf to play, do wutever u haf to do...if u do it properly, any solutions by them will be going ur way...by then, u wont complain and see it as a problem anymore...
competition is near, stop reading this topic and train hard for it...to those who post here more than practicing, i can tell u...you're not going to win smile.gif
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Naka, firstly, thanks for being the one helping bringing the message to In2.

Here's my input as an old-timer in the scene.

The pro-Tennis and pro-Badminton circuits face the same situation as what In2 is facing right now. They need to maintain the quality of their tournaments on the Open circuit, yet at the same time, allow new blood into the scene to prove themselves so that they have the opportunity to challenge with the best.

How do they do it? Their solution is a balanced mixture of seedings as well as slots opened to unknowns in the scene. Not different from the "50% seeds 50% open to public" idea that some enlightened forumers are championing here.

Their system evolved over 100 years into its current format because it satisfied the majority (including proven good players, unknowns up-and-coming players, sponsors, quality of tournament). History can be a great teacher. Why not try a proven system? You won't go wrong, trust me wink.gif

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QUOTE(kujaboyde @ May 28 2008, 09:53 AM)
why so many y on badan bagus post?? LOL
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QUOTE(luige @ May 28 2008, 09:54 AM)
luckily i'm not playing laugh.gif
to those who are disappointed, forget this and train hard wcg national final smile.gif
play wutever u haf to play, do wutever u haf to do...if u do it properly, any solutions by them will be going ur way...by then, u wont complain and see it as a problem anymore...
competition is near, stop reading this topic and train hard for it...to those who post here more than practicing, i can tell u...you're not going to win smile.gif
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HAHA..thats right!

I am lucky as well,caused not playing tooo laugh.gif


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QUOTE(arroyos @ May 28 2008, 09:59 AM)
cis! badan bagus tak ada sini lar..
chapp ooooohhhh chapp..where are u!


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HAHA..thats right!

I am lucky as well,caused not playing tooo  laugh.gif
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right.. thanks NakA for helping hehe

but no point flaming please.. and seeding is not an option, why would i want to have a qualifiers if i do seedings? if i invite so called 'pro-gamers' it's pretty sore for the people who'd trained hard and be ready for this rite? if we do seedings for the 'pro-gamers', how sure are you that THESE are the best of the best? the gamers could very well have stopped playing for 1 month, and standard dropped, and in the mean time, we have this gamer who'd trained for the past year, and just because he hasn't join or won any WCG competition, he's not allowed to join. Fair? And how sure are you that these 'seeded' people is going to win when they go to Singapore?

the main reason why we implemented this balloting idea is because we want to be fair to everyone, everyone has a chance to register and has a chance to get a slot.

and, if we still go on with the first come first serve basis, can you guarantee that all the 16 or 32 slots are filled with the so-called 'pro-gamers'? Everyone thinks they are pro, everyone thinks they're good enough.

We're trying to accommodate everyone here with everything we have. Think about it. We give you computers to play, we provide you with whatever you need, and we are going to pay for your trip if you win. Tell me, if you win, who is going to be famous? definitely isn't going to be me. who is going to get the prize money if you win in Singapore? You gamers happily take your money, and we, all we get are complains from you. Now, tell me, what is fair?

Life isn't fair, get over it.


Added on May 28, 2008, 10:26 amBTW, some changes on the timings for DotA registration, please update yourselves.

http://my.worldcybergames.com/article/read...on-wcg-kick-off

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It's alright angelstarz.

Winds Gel, maybe you have your point there. But i think you still don't really get my point. However, forget about that.

Let's see, to be honest with you all, all i can see, most of you, majority from WInds? Correct me if i am wrong? and only one from myFes that's keep talking about this seeding thing? AND also, is it just only FIFA players who just keep mentioning about Seeding? Where's NFS ppl? come on stand out, dont shy, oh, how about Dota players too? Come on... ?

So now my question is, Winds+myFes = Whole Fifa community in Msia? Is that right? If so, ok maybe you have the right to represent all of them talk about this. I am not saying you don't have the right. OK, maybe you all really have your point there, BUT think about it ya, its suggested by only Winds and one and only myFes player about this, therefore i personally think this is not majority ya, what do you guys think?

Ok, even let's say it's majority, so we agree about the seeding, then what will happen next? Can anyone tell me? If you can, i seed you. But it's ok, i bet many of you don't. SO, next if there's any ppl look at the forum and see oh, winds+1 and only myFes's suggestion and made in2 change their mind, it looks to me, well, i think quite BIAS? So is it In2 bias? From a view of an outsider, HELL YA, its definitely Bias.. So if let's say any Gaming Media finds out this, what will they say?

OH HEADLINE, BAGUS SEKALI!! Msia Organiser Bias ~ and what will happen to In2? do you guys know? you have no idea what will happen, cos' in your mind is only hey who cares who organise, as long as i get the slot and i can play, THATS IT. Correct me if i am wrong. For Ppl who organize event, must look on a bigger picture on what we can do, what we cannot do? It's not as simple as, hey i want this, then ok you get it.

Like what angelstarz said, "the gamers could very well have stopped playing for 1 month, and standard dropped, and in the mean time, we have this gamer who'd trained for the past year, and just because he hasn't join or won any WCG competition, he's seeded. Fair?"

For example, have a look at this, http://multiplay.lowyat.net/2007/10/27/wgt...-day-1-summary/ ..

Let me just kind of post it out,
Apart from that, a shocking upset happened to [W|nDs]Leoninho, the player who eliminated the WCG Malaysia 2007 champs, [W|nDs]Si_jali during the last CGS Malaysia Qualifier. He lost 2 - 1 to an unknown player with the nick, ChowSengSong (Stephen Chow, lol). It is indeed a shocking news to everybody.

So should we seed this ChowSengSong that out from no where? Did he really have a good ranking before?

So let's say we put it back to first come first serve now, for sure also Winds+myFes players, no doubt, as you all said in previous post, sure camp at registration, and somemore you all so dedicated, isn't that right? So therefore, come out with a better way, which everyone stands a chance.

AND you want best of the best? SO like i said, if there's someone who can beat JALI, who's previous year champion, Top 4 in WCG GF year 2005, and so on, I PERSONALLY DO BELIEVE he got some F*king skills ! and Not just based on LUCK. Is that clear enough my friends??

Thanks and as usual, welcome to drop your feedback once again.
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bro, how bout me?

im not pointing the seeding,

i just give opinion that i dun like this ballot thing...

just do open slot registration..even WCG up to 128..atleast jsut do open slot registration maybe up to 64..thats all..


btw, its only opinion lah..haihz..both side, organizer n player should understand each other..but, organizer should understand more, becoz the one who are participating is the gamers..not the organizer..
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QUOTE(NakA @ May 28 2008, 10:50 AM)
It's alright angelstarz.

Winds Gel, maybe you have your point there. But i think you still don't really get my point. However, forget about that.

Let's see, to be honest with you all, all i can see, most of you, majority from WInds? Correct me if i am wrong? and only one from myFes that's keep talking about this seeding thing? AND also, is it just only FIFA players who just keep mentioning about Seeding? Where's NFS ppl? come on stand out, dont shy, oh, how about Dota players too? Come on... ?

So now my question is, Winds+myFes = Whole Fifa community in Msia? Is that right? If so, ok maybe you have the right to represent all of them talk about this. I am not saying you don't have the right. OK, maybe you all really have your point there, BUT think about it ya, its suggested by only Winds and one and only myFes player about this, therefore i personally think this is not majority ya, what do you guys think?

Ok, even let's say it's majority, so we agree about the seeding, then what will happen next? Can anyone tell me? If you can, i seed you. But it's ok, i bet many of you don't. SO, next if there's any ppl look at the forum and see oh, winds+1 and only myFes's suggestion and made in2 change their mind, it looks to me, well, i think quite BIAS? So is it In2 bias? From a view of an outsider, HELL YA, its definitely Bias.. So if let's say any Gaming Media finds out this, what will they say?

OH HEADLINE, BAGUS SEKALI!! Msia Organiser Bias ~ and what will happen to In2? do you guys know? you have no idea what will happen, cos' in your mind is only hey who cares who organise, as long as i get the slot and i can play, THATS IT. Correct me if i am wrong. For Ppl who organize event, must look on a bigger picture on what we can do, what we cannot do? It's not as simple as, hey i want this, then ok you get it.

Like what angelstarz said, "the gamers could very well have stopped playing for 1 month, and standard dropped, and in the mean time, we have this gamer who'd trained for the past year, and just because he hasn't join or won any WCG competition, he's seeded. Fair?"

For example, have a look at this, http://multiplay.lowyat.net/2007/10/27/wgt...-day-1-summary/ ..

Let me just kind of post it out,
Apart from that, a shocking upset happened to [W|nDs]Leoninho, the player who eliminated the WCG Malaysia 2007 champs, [W|nDs]Si_jali during the last CGS Malaysia Qualifier. He lost 2 - 1 to an unknown player with the nick, ChowSengSong (Stephen Chow, lol). It is indeed a shocking news to everybody.

So should we seed this ChowSengSong that out from no where? Did he really have a good ranking before?

So let's say we put it back to first come first serve now, for sure also Winds+myFes players, no doubt, as you all said in previous post, sure camp at registration, and somemore you all so dedicated, isn't that right? So therefore, come out with a better way, which everyone stands a chance.

AND you want best of the best? SO like i said, if there's someone who can beat JALI, who's previous year champion, Top 4 in WCG GF year 2005, and so on, I PERSONALLY DO BELIEVE he got some F*king skills ! and Not just based on LUCK. Is that clear enough my friends??

Thanks and as usual, welcome to drop your feedback once again.
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Naka, as u have bring in the name of MyFeS, i have no other way than to reply this.

Bring up the name of MYFES member that agree with seeding now? WHO ? ME ??

I believe what i commented all this while is about the registgration method..i never bring in any sugggestion on to implement seeding , give places to top 16? or watever..i did mentioned only on how the players fought for the seeding in previous years!!!!!!

COme man ,naka..lets get things accurate.now we are not talking about anyone that able to beat jali is being lucky or watever! we are saying gamers are now depending purely on luck in PARTICIPATING, not WINNING!!!.. MENYERTAI dan bukan MEMENANGI !!

Honestly , i felt offended with your remarks on winds n myfes. Yea.u didnt flame or condemn us directly.MyFeS personally never think we represent the whole fifa community at all. However 2 years back, i would say basically the whole fifa community is only myfes n winds. And all this time, myfes personally continuosly searching new talent and trying to improve the gaming scene here. we support all the tourneys , we travel outstation and etc just to participate in tourneys.and now i felt we are like being blame when we are just trying to voice out our opinions here..

Bro Gel said just now, history can be a good teacher. Why the previous tourneys we dont have this problems? Yes ppl may complain this n that..but this it worst ..event are not even starting yet.the very first thing, REGISTRATION is giving problems redi..HOW la BRO??

Alrite.we are here after all just to make things better.after all i am not participating this time. i gotta to reply this just because myfes name is in!

peace naka...
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QUOTE(morusa @ May 28 2008, 11:06 AM)
bro, how bout me?

im not pointing the seeding,

i just give opinion that i dun like this ballot thing...

just do open slot registration..even WCG up to 128..atleast jsut do open slot registration maybe up to 64..thats all..
btw, its only opinion lah..haihz..both side, organizer n player should understand each other..but, organizer should understand more, becoz the one who are participating is the gamers..not the organizer..
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Bro how about me ?

i also want to give oppinion

if just say like u suggest open the slot more to 64 instead who is going to pay for the extra expenses ?like pc?space?table,staff and etc ? rclxub.gif

you paying bro?? if so i think in2 might consider that nod.gif

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So listen to the majority, ignore the 1-2 people who think differently.

Think reasonably and fairly, taking half of the spots (16 out of 32) and give them to the Top Gamers based on current seedings is a brilliant step.
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1. [W|nDs] Si_Jali : 23 points (-)
2. [W|nDs] Vin: 22 points (-)
3. [W|nDs] Loon4tiC: 16.5 points (-1)
4. [MyFes] Warrior: 15.5 points (+1)
5. [MyFes] Solidsnake: 10 points (-1)
6. [W|nDs] Al3x: 9.5 points (-1)
7. [MyFes] Arroyos: 8.5 points (-)
8. [W|nDs] Maxsim: 7.5 points (+3)
9. [MyFes] Zietoo: 6 points (-1)
10.[MyFes] Houlivgan: 5 points (-1)
10.[W|nDs] Lleoninho: 5 points (-1)
12.[MyFes] Sildes: 2.5 points (-1)
12.[W|nDs] Des: 2.5 points (-1)
12.[Tornado] Seed: 2.5 points (new)
12. Brot: 2.5 points (new)
12.[W|nDs] Rei: 2.5 points (new)
17.[W|nDs] Juan: 1.5 points (-3)
17. Kayren: 1.5 points (-3)

Based on his post, majority, therefore i have no choice but includes you, and from what i can see in the forum, majority = Winds+myFES which is you. I am not saying you talk about seeding or what. So if based on what he said for "Think reasonably and fairly, taking half of the spots (16 out of 32) and give them to the Top Gamers based on current seedings is a brilliant step" then might as well straight away give all to Winds+myFes ?

QUOTE(arroyos @ May 28 2008, 11:21 AM)


COme man ,naka..lets get things accurate.now we are not talking about anyone that able to beat jali is being lucky or watever! we are saying gamers are now depending purely on luck in PARTICIPATING, not WINNING!!!.. MENYERTAI dan bukan MEMENANGI !!

Honestly , i felt offended with your remarks on winds n myfes. Yea.u didnt flame or condemn us directly.MyFeS personally never think we represent the whole fifa community at all. However 2 years back, i would say basically the whole fifa community is only myfes n winds. And all this time, myfes personally continuosly searching new talent and trying to improve the gaming scene here. we support all the tourneys , we travel outstation and etc just to participate in tourneys.and now i felt we are like being blame when we are just trying to voice out our opinions here..

Bro Gel said just now, history can be a good teacher. Why the previous tourneys we dont have this problems? Yes ppl may complain this n that..but this it worst ..event are not even starting yet.the very first thing, REGISTRATION is giving problems redi..HOW la BRO??

Alrite.we are here after all just to make things better.after all i am not participating this time. i gotta to reply this just because myfes name is in!

peace naka...
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Based on his post, majority, therefore i have no choice but includes you, and from what i can see in the forum, majority = Winds+myFES which is you. Ok maybe i did misunderstand and did offend you, i do apologize for that. But however, KALAU you tak nak MENANG, KENAPA KAU MAULAH MENYERTAI? Then what's the meaning of COMPETITION? Join but don't want to win? Where's the Spirit? Then might as well don't join, give the slot for ppl who really want to MENANG?

At first, ppl complain about First Come First serve, alright, we give face, then we change, and now? ppl complain again, SO, IF WE CHANGE again? can you 101% guarantee me there won't be anymore ppl complain? well well..

I do not wish to create problem or what here, i wish to help out as well, but i just stated out the fact why we cannot? If we can, you really think we will be so free sitting here, looking at lowyat, drink coffee, and waiting for reply? By right, we can even don't care about it.



QUOTE(colincsf @ May 28 2008, 11:30 AM)
Bro how about me ?

i also want to give oppinion

if just say like u suggest open the slot more to 64 instead who is going to pay for the extra expenses ?like pc?space?table,staff and etc ?

you paying bro?? if so i think in2 might consider that
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QUOTE(colincsf @ May 28 2008, 11:30 AM)
Bro how about me ?

i also want to give oppinion

if just say like u suggest open the slot more to 64 instead who is going to pay for the extra expenses ?like pc?space?table,staff and etc ?

you paying bro?? if so i think in2 might consider that
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hehehe..nice one bro colincsf... notworthy.gif

thats y i mention this =

btw, its only opinion lah..haihz..both side, organizer n player should understand each other..but, organizer should understand more, becoz the one who are participating is the gamers..not the organizer..

sorry lah, i dun have money to pay sad.gif ..organizer try to think how to get sponsor then..hahhaha .. rclxub.gif thumbup.gif whistling.gif but, since lack of sponsor then, organizer should not keep shooting back gamers opinion..just give nice explaination, n state y..i believe they will understand..dun figth fire with fire lah..haihz...

and dont be sarcastic also.. thumbup.gif
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as NFS player, i dont have any comment, i just think who started the 1st come 1st serve spot problem..before this i dont read any..if not mistaken, anglezstar posted on end of april and now week before kick-off all these pops out..

if u say u all wanna give feedback, i suggest organiser open feedback section to gamers so they got chance to give their opinion whatsoever within 1week..after 1 week, no more opinion/feedback/complain will entertain cos u gamers already given chance to do so. of coz not for this kick-off, for next time maybe..


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QUOTE(morusa @ May 28 2008, 11:41 AM)
hehehe..nice one bro colincsf... notworthy.gif

thats y i mention this =

btw, its only opinion lah..haihz..both side, organizer n player should understand each other..but, organizer should understand more, becoz the one who are participating is the gamers..not the organizer..

sorry lah, i dun have money to pay sad.gif ..organizer try to think how to get sponsor then..hahhaha .. rclxub.gif  thumbup.gif  whistling.gif but, since lack of sponsor then, organizer should not keep shooting back gamers opinion..just give nice explaination, n state y..i believe they will understand..dun figth fire with fire lah..haihz...

and dont be sarcastic also.. thumbup.gif
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yea yea same same i also give oppinion on ur oppinion only dun angry yea notworthy.gif

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oh, what a good reason, why would have a qualifier if we doing seeding?
not we doesnt see the big pictures, is you doesnt really see gamers thinking which think is fair.
In every tourney, obviously there is a qualifying stage, and if there is a qualifying stage, and few star players joining, there will be seeding to diffrent group is just to elimate the not-so good player in tournament.
If the players from open registration join the game, they could even beat the seeding players if they are good.

So they able to choose the best players to final. But dear organiser, we never say you stupid, i only mention mutsumi, but not organiser.

If you bringing the internet compare travel from other state to Kuala Lumpur.
Internet down there is always another alternative connect to internet, but sorry, there is no others registration alternative but travelling to KL.
You should think which is more convinience.
Eventhough friday is near and there is not much change can do, but at least we need to point out to inform you to correct the mistake in future.

IF you really like to prefer a system, gamers can create own ranking system, despite on CS/FIFA/NFS/DOTA which won on recognize tournament.

so we able to have the seeding system next time rather than 1st come 1st serve by travelling to KL or ballot system.

and halo, there not only fifa players recommend seeding, there is more.
Underminer do represent dota community, yet most of dota player doesnt nor great in english, or should say thier explaination not as good like what you type.

Life isnt fair we do know that, but just a tournament you making it so complicated.
not we making it complicated but the way you making is complicated.

And i doesnt want to comment much about the win of unknown players.
The gamers who won so many tournament, and trained hard compare to those who trained for 1 whole year, i strongly believe we prefer the gamers who won few tournament before due to pressure handling.

But halo, we comment about the registration, you can see the thread actually about registration, why dont done nicely next time, if you can?
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yea yea same same i also give oppinion on ur oppinion only dun angry yea  notworthy.gif
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dear guardioo,

next time dont listen to mutsumi..he like to make things worst and he's gay

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you are a organiser, you can always change the seeding slot as what you think is possible.

4slot or 8 slot is possible, not necessary 16 slot all for winds or myfes.
you just choose the top4 or top 8?

it all about how you think our side, i do think about u cant open more slot, due to equiment and PC and time constraint.

getting a seeding system is to save ur time, as a skill player can beat a non so good player in a short time, remove 1 of your stress.

and i never ask you to create more and more slot, i just asking to choose the right registration...

but tis is out of topic of course, we all talking about internet/email registration, and here lead the seeding, which another problem that you never or you didnt face.

so, just go ahead with ballot system, bring more ppl go and cheer u up, you will get selected.
the voting by the crowd voice as they mention.

if you change to seeding system sure there is complain, which i think of 3 is,
why system keep changing, and why there suddenly have seeding, or why so little seeded slot.

so...NakA, im not sure whether you work in in2 or wat? do point out, if you think point system is necessary, just tell us, even upcoming WCG gonna be easy for you for having seeding.

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QUOTE(NakA @ May 28 2008, 11:40 AM)
Top 18 Malaysian Fifa Ranking (based on 2007 CELGAMES, WCG, CGS and WGT)
1. [W|nDs] Si_Jali : 23 points (-)
2. [W|nDs] Vin: 22 points (-)
3. [W|nDs] Loon4tiC: 16.5 points (-1)
4. [MyFes] Warrior: 15.5 points (+1)
5. [MyFes] Solidsnake: 10 points (-1)
6. [W|nDs] Al3x: 9.5 points (-1)
7. [MyFes] Arroyos: 8.5 points (-)
8. [W|nDs] Maxsim: 7.5 points (+3)
9. [MyFes] Zietoo: 6 points (-1)
10.[MyFes] Houlivgan: 5 points (-1)
10.[W|nDs] Lleoninho: 5 points (-1)
12.[MyFes] Sildes: 2.5 points (-1)
12.[W|nDs] Des: 2.5 points (-1)
12.[Tornado] Seed: 2.5 points (new)
12. Brot: 2.5 points (new)
12.[W|nDs] Rei: 2.5 points (new)
17.[W|nDs] Juan: 1.5 points (-3)
17. Kayren: 1.5 points (-3)

Based on his post, majority, therefore i have no choice but includes you, and from what i can see in the forum, majority = Winds+myFES which is you. I am not saying you talk about seeding or what. So if based on what he said for "Think reasonably and fairly, taking half of the spots (16 out of 32) and give them to the Top Gamers based on current seedings is a brilliant step" then might as well straight away give all to Winds+myFes ?
Based on his post, majority, therefore i have no choice but includes you, and from what i can see in the forum, majority = Winds+myFES which is you. Ok maybe i did misunderstand and did offend you, i do apologize for that. But however, KALAU you tak nak MENANG, KENAPA KAU MAULAH MENYERTAI? Then what's the meaning of COMPETITION? Join but don't want to win? Where's the Spirit? Then might as well don't join, give the slot for ppl who really want to MENANG?

At first, ppl complain about First Come First serve, alright, we give face, then we change, and now? ppl complain again, SO, IF WE CHANGE again? can you 101% guarantee me there won't be anymore ppl complain? well well..

I do not wish to create problem or what here, i wish to help out as well, but i just stated out the fact why we cannot? If we can, you really think we will be so free sitting here, looking at lowyat, drink coffee, and waiting for reply? By right, we can even don't care about it.
Thanks colin =)
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I DIDNT SAY MENYERTAI DAN TAK NAK MEMENANGI ....OF COURSE FIRST STEP IS TO REGISTER ,GET A SPOT..TAK ADA SPOT HOW TO EVEN THINK OF MENANG..

STILL U DIDNT GET IT RIGHT..I MEANT GAMERS NOW NEED LUCK JST TO GET A SPOT..

COMPLAINTS FOR SURE WILL BE THERE..WITH COMPLAINTS THEN ONLY THERE IS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENTS...WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT THE COMPLAINTS IS ANOTHER THING...

NAKA, WHICH ONE DO U THINK WILLL CREATE MORE COMPLAINTS???

HISTORY SAID IT, WHEN FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS WAS OUT, HOW MANY COMPLAINTS ? THEN HOW MANY COMPLAINTS NOW WITH THE SUPPER LUCKY DRAW METHOD ???

A WELL PROJECT MANAGER/ EVENT PLANNER SHOULD KNOW HOW TO MINIMISE THE COMPLAINT..WHICH WAY TO TAKE IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE COMPLAINTS AND ETC..

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ??????????????????????????

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i think we stop 1st for lunch time..

what do u guys think??


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QUOTE(kujaboyde @ May 28 2008, 12:12 PM)
i think we stop 1st for lunch time..

what do u guys think??
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Yes! forza! i love you..haha..

nice suggestion..makan mana bro? nak join..
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i think we stop 1st for lunch time..

what do u guys think??
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makan kat kenduri abang Forza..hahhaahaha

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dear kujaboyde,

he not only make thing worst, i wont be start shooting him if he posting something that so brainless.

he gay?nah? i doesnt like a body attack regarding family and what they like?

i only feddup when he having so many brainless stupid comments.
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QUOTE(arroyos @ May 28 2008, 12:14 PM)
Yes! forza! i love you..haha..

nice suggestion..makan mana bro? nak join..
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QUOTE(morusa @ May 28 2008, 12:14 PM)
anti climax..hahhaha thumbup.gif

makan kat kenduri abang Forza..hahhaahaha
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QUOTE(angelstarz @ May 28 2008, 10:20 AM)
right.. thanks NakA for helping hehe

but no point flaming please.. and seeding is not an option, why would i want to have a qualifiers if i do seedings? if i invite so called 'pro-gamers' it's pretty sore for the people who'd trained hard and be ready for this rite? if we do seedings for the 'pro-gamers', how sure are you that THESE are the best of the best? the gamers could very well have stopped playing for 1 month, and standard dropped, and in the mean time, we have this gamer who'd trained for the past year, and just because he hasn't join or won any WCG competition, he's not allowed to join. Fair? And how sure are you that these 'seeded' people is going to win when they go to Singapore?

the main reason why we implemented this balloting idea is because we want to be fair to everyone, everyone has a chance to register and has a chance to get a slot.

and, if we still go on with the first come first serve basis, can you guarantee that all the 16 or 32 slots are filled with the so-called 'pro-gamers'? Everyone thinks they are pro, everyone thinks they're good enough.

We're trying to accommodate everyone here with everything we have. Think about it. We give you computers to play, we provide you with whatever you need, and we are going to pay for your trip if you win. Tell me, if you win, who is going to be famous? definitely isn't going to be me. who is going to get the prize money if you win in Singapore? You gamers happily take your money, and we, all we get are complains from you. Now, tell me, what is fair?

Life isn't fair, get over it.


Added on May 28, 2008, 10:26 amBTW, some changes on the timings for DotA registration, please update yourselves.

http://my.worldcybergames.com/article/read...on-wcg-kick-off
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angelstarz,

and why do champ get seeded straight to finals? their standards may drop as well.never know if they start from first round... they can be beaten in 2nd or 3 round by unknowns player...


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tgh makan tak bole ckp..nnti makanan tekeluar dari mulut..LOL
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tgh makan tak bole ckp..nnti makanan tekeluar dari mulut..LOL
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wahah...blah la forza.


gi pyramid tak ajak pun..haihz..
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tgh makan tak bole ckp..nnti makanan tekeluar dari mulut..LOL
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QUOTE(NakA @ May 28 2008, 07:51 AM)
Besides, pre-registration? How it works? Can tell me? so whoever 32 register first, then the slots close? So, ppl at that time can say, oh my internet not working? oh i am busy that time? oh i am not at home that time?

Good one on seeding as well. So that means Msia always having same gamers roll and roll, i fight you, you fight me. What if there's a good one, actually he stands a chance to join, but, because seeding, he missed out? So this isn't fair to him as well. There's nothing fair to be honest. It's just that you scare you lose a chance? You can't represent Msia? What about others? If that's the case, only 16 ppl stand a chance?

What happen if you are the one who's not in the seeding? How will you feel? I am a normal player, i trained and try my best, but i only have 1/16 possibility to get a slot. Think about it, those who post all the times are the one who's on lowyat. I do believe there's ppl who's not on there too. So is this fair to those who's not on lowyat? Ok, you may say they are noob, beginner or whatever? But are you not a noob before? PPL Join just because they want to gain more experience, but even this little chance, you also don't give ppl, so is this call fair? And the so called TOP PPL like you all, every year also seeding, is it fair as well? Then might as well, we don't need to have WCG Qualifier for National Championship? Seed you all, that will be enough. Isn't that right? So we can send best of the best to Germany this year, don't need to bother about those "NOOB" or whatever it is.

Upset about In2? Why do In2 want to organize this? The reason is because In2 wants to let everyone has a chance to join eventhough they know they cannot accomodate a lot of ppl, but at least they try. If not, why will they bother? They can just send Jali, Forza and etc over to SG, why they want to find trouble themselves and let ppl complain about them being stupid? Ridiculous? Do you think organizer will feel nice? It's like Hey, you this gamer, you are so stupid, do you feel nice? do you? i am asking you! whoever you are...

You all think about it, don't just know how to complain. Every reasons have their own pros and cons. You all just keep telling me about the advantage of seeding? what about disadvantages? Do you all really ever think about that? Don't tell me there's none.. it's f*king bullshit if you tell me that..

Before Eddy posted about the seeding, why there's no one mention about that? Well, i did not say Eddy's suggestion is not good, however, what's the point? Like you all said, choose best of the best? Or should i just say it's just a selfish thought about ownself? Why do i only see those who knows themselves confirm get a slot one keep posting about seeding? Can i refer that as selfish? Can i? If not let me know pls, i wud love to accept ur feedback.

Thanks and above is just my opinion, welcome to discuss about it, and it's nothing related with In2 at all. =)
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Ron, everybody wants only the best to represent the country to Singapore. That's all. We are not upset with In2 as a whole, we even applauded In2 initiative to held an open qualifier. We just upset about the lucky draw system, which to us have many flaws.

While I do agree with the disadvantages of seeding but it's down to this : if a player deserve to win, he will win it. All of the so-called "pro" have been through it before. Relatively unknown and then beat everybody - one person at a time. Seeding is just an alternative, not the only solution. Every other alternative have their flaws too, but they are still way better than the lucky draw system.

The online pre-registration method that I had in my mind was different from yours. It's similar to the new lucky draw based system but instead it's to be held online and few weeks prior to the event. If a player or a team doesn't get chosen, they don't have to waste their effort especially in terms of financial to be there at the event. This holds true for participants that comes from outstation or people that canceled or took leave from work to join the event.

The reason why nobody actually give much feedback about the registration system before In2 implement the lucky draw is because the first comes first serve method was better than the lucky draw method. Sure, there is a big problem for outstation players who faces unconfirmed spots. But, with lucky draw method also, they are still facing unconfirmed spots because the draw is held only one day earlier before the competition starts and by right, everybody is already here in KL.

That's why the original method was better than the lucky draw system. Whoever wants it so bad will do whatever is possible to register including lining up at the registration counter as early as possible. That's pretty fair to me, IMHO.

Before we go on further on this issue, regardless of my writings and replies here, it will not effect Multiplay's coverage on WCG Malaysia and future In2 related events. We are doing our job, you are doing your job and together, we are doing counter-check balance for the benefit of Malaysian gaming scene.

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oh well, for me it;s nothing as I always lepak at lowyat on saturdays. But like Chapree said, it is hard for ppl outside KL to do this. And what if they are not chosen? they have to pay money to go back also. waste of money can kill gaming you know
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just wanna say halo la, abang badan bagus...! LOL!
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Naka, angelzstar, In2:-

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Revert to 1st-come-1st-serve. No matter online or offline registration. Both are better than the lucky-draw system. That is the bottom-line for gamers.

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As for seeding, it's your call. 100% of the spots not granted to seeds, you satisfy the newcomers but don't satisfy the seasoned gamers. 100% of the spots granted to seeds, you satisfy the seasoned gamers but don't satisfy the newcomers. Are seasoned gamers important to you? Are newcomer gamers important to you? Weigh these and you will find the answer to how much % you should allocate for each.

If you think only 1 seasoned gamer per game is worth rewarding, then don't have to change a thing! Coz you've the system in place. But if you think you should keep more seasoned gamers happy, the same passionate people who have been supporting your events over these years, then by all means revise.

Also, just a correction. The seeds list has nothing to do with bias, but has all to do with merit. These players on the list got their seeds by a prolonged period of determination, passion, discipline of getting good results at major tournaments. So no need to be afraid to use it, the media won't harass you because of using it smile.gif

Debate the idea, but don't attack my clan.

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QUOTE(angelstarz @ May 28 2008, 11:20 AM)
right.. thanks NakA for helping hehe

but no point flaming please.. and seeding is not an option, why would i want to have a qualifiers if i do seedings? if i invite so called 'pro-gamers' it's pretty sore for the people who'd trained hard and be ready for this rite? if we do seedings for the 'pro-gamers', how sure are you that THESE are the best of the best? the gamers could very well have stopped playing for 1 month, and standard dropped, and in the mean time, we have this gamer who'd trained for the past year, and just because he hasn't join or won any WCG competition, he's not allowed to join. Fair? And how sure are you that these 'seeded' people is going to win when they go to Singapore?

the main reason why we implemented this balloting idea is because we want to be fair to everyone, everyone has a chance to register and has a chance to get a slot.

and, if we still go on with the first come first serve basis, can you guarantee that all the 16 or 32 slots are filled with the so-called 'pro-gamers'? Everyone thinks they are pro, everyone thinks they're good enough.

We're trying to accommodate everyone here with everything we have. Think about it. We give you computers to play, we provide you with whatever you need, and we are going to pay for your trip if you win. Tell me, if you win, who is going to be famous? definitely isn't going to be me. who is going to get the prize money if you win in Singapore? You gamers happily take your money, and we, all we get are complains from you. Now, tell me, what is fair?

Life isn't fair, get over it.


Added on May 28, 2008, 10:26 amBTW, some changes on the timings for DotA registration, please update yourselves.

http://my.worldcybergames.com/article/read...on-wcg-kick-off
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Naka, angelzstar, In2:-

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Revert to 1st-come-1st-serve. No matter online or offline registration. Both are better than the lucky-draw system. That is the bottom-line for gamers.

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As for seeding, it's your call. 100% of the spots not granted to seeds, you satisfy the newcomers but don't satisfy the seasoned gamers. 100% of the spots granted to seeds, you satisfy the seasoned gamers but don't satisfy the newcomers. Are seasoned gamers important to you? Are newcomer gamers important to you? Weigh these and you will find the answer to how much % you should allocate for each.

If you think only 1 seasoned gamer per game is worth rewarding, then don't have to change a thing! Coz you've the system in place. But if you think you should keep more seasoned gamers happy, the same passionate people who have been supporting your events over these years, then by all means revise.

Also, just a correction. The seeds list has nothing to do with bias, but has all to do with merit. These players on the list got their seeds by a prolonged period of determination, passion, discipline of getting good results at major tournaments. So no need to be afraid to use it, the media won't harass you because of using it smile.gif

Debate the idea, but don't attack my clan.

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just revert back to the 1st come 1st serve basis. I believe i've defended this reg method with a long karangan including with a poem.


whatever it is coming up later i wish everyone all the best for this coming Friday. ^^
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QUOTE(chilaxis @ May 28 2008, 02:35 PM)
Naka, angelzstar, In2:-

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Revert to 1st-come-1st-serve. No matter online or offline registration. Both are better than the lucky-draw system. That is the bottom-line for gamers.

2.
As for seeding, it's your call. 100% of the spots not granted to seeds, you satisfy the newcomers but don't satisfy the seasoned gamers. 100% of the spots granted to seeds, you satisfy the seasoned gamers but don't satisfy the newcomers. Are seasoned gamers important to you? Are newcomer gamers important to you? Weigh these and you will find the answer to how much % you should allocate for each.

If you think only 1 seasoned gamer per game is worth rewarding, then don't have to change a thing! Coz you've the system in place. But if you think you should keep more seasoned gamers happy, the same passionate people who have been supporting your events over these years, then by all means revise.

Also, just a correction. The seeds list has nothing to do with bias, but has all to do with merit. These players on the list got their seeds by a prolonged period of determination, passion, discipline of getting good results at major tournaments. So no need to be afraid to use it, the media won't harass you because of using it smile.gif

Debate the idea, but don't attack my clan.

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QUOTE(arroyos @ May 28 2008, 12:18 PM)
angelstarz,

and why do champ get seeded straight to finals? their standards may drop as well.never know if they start from first round... they can be beaten in 2nd or 3 round by unknowns player...
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oh, what a good reason, why would have a qualifier if we doing seeding?
not we doesnt see the big pictures, is you doesnt really see gamers thinking which think is fair.
In every tourney, obviously there is a qualifying stage, and if there is a qualifying stage, and few star players joining, there will be seeding to diffrent group is just to elimate the not-so good player in tournament.
If the players from open registration join the game, they could even beat the seeding players if they are good.

So they able to choose the best players to final. But dear organiser, we never say you stupid, i only mention mutsumi, but not organiser.

If you bringing the internet compare travel from other state to Kuala Lumpur.
Internet down there is always another alternative connect to internet, but sorry, there is no others registration alternative but travelling to KL.
You should think which is more convinience.
Eventhough friday is near and there is not much change can do, but at least we need to point out to inform you to correct the mistake in future.

IF you really like to prefer a system, gamers can create own ranking system, despite on CS/FIFA/NFS/DOTA which won on recognize tournament.

so we able to have the seeding system next time rather than 1st come 1st serve by travelling to KL or ballot system.

and halo, there not only fifa players recommend seeding, there is more.
Underminer do represent dota community, yet most of dota player doesnt nor great in english, or should say thier explaination not as good like what you type.

Life isnt fair we do know that, but just a tournament you making it so complicated.
not we making it complicated but the way you making is complicated.

And i doesnt want to comment much about the win of unknown players.
The gamers who won so many tournament, and trained hard compare to those who trained for 1 whole year, i strongly believe we prefer the gamers who won few tournament before due to pressure handling.

But halo, we comment about the registration, you can see the thread actually about registration, why dont done nicely next time, if you can?
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wait, so those who HAVE NOT won ANY competitions are called 'not-so-good gamers?' nice description ya.

hmm, i totally have no problem with DotA community, i din even receive any e-mails or calls for that matter regarding the registration mechanisms. and HALO, who is not seeing the BIG picture here? don't condemn the DotA community about not speaking good english when you're not so good in it yourself.

Sorry if the above is a little mean to you, i'm not speaking on behalf of the organizer at this point, i just can't personally accept the way you put things smile.gif no offence though =D
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IMO, for those that interested in joining this tourney they will come regardless what are the rules/method of registration. Although I do agree that the lucky draw thing is kinda weird/not that perfect but its up to the organizers.
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we giving another suggestion, they come out with another suggestion, we complain tis suggestion they come out with more worse suggestion,
i complain his suggestion, and he give face and come out with ballot which is worse suggestion.

might as well like this, just get 4 seeded slot and the rest open to all for every game, fair enough? but would you listen?
Or you pissed off coz we complain too much? you doing event should expect this problem? but at least this is the best way to reduce all the complain.

but anyway, ur rather not to accept what we suggest? and prefer to benefit all the Klang valley player?


Added on May 28, 2008, 5:24 pm
i never say im good in english, as most of them i met is diffrent education or i say chinese education.
but yea, your post is little mean for me, nor your thinking is not in picture at all.

You dont accept the thing i saying about not so-good in english or wat?
im ok with it, even myself admit im not good in english, at least i dare to speak.

but are you speaking doesnt accept my idea of seeding system or wat? dun get out of topic though.

opps, sorry..forgot to adding some words.

im not fully referring about not won any competition as "not-so good gamer", im just giving you some fact, if u like to misunderstanding, and like naka say giving so called face to me? or even flaming me, im ok with it, this is a forum.

dota community doesnt do anything with me, fifa either or even need for speed...you can say im posting crap here, but i do want to say, its against ur company not against you, the first come first serve registration that required to come all the way to KL or ballot system is so sux that i never though. im not sure what ur company management or current event team think about, you may say my english sux, i do accept it, but you cant accept we complain about your ballot system and first come first serve to kl is sux? we offer you a better idea, doesnt accept? its ok then.

If you trying to having revenge just becoz my complaint by coming out ballot system instead seeding system, to those fifa/nfs/dota players, just go ahead, non of them know me anyway.

you can email all the dota players, fifa players or even nfs players, i never see them in real life, and they didnt even have my msn.

think wisely, i advising you...all the while i attacking your company, but hey angelstarz, i got no personal offence about you anyway, i do hope the so-called "everyone" discussion do know how to think.

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the game start at same date as the registration date?
this time no starcraft d???
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Ok, now i can speak on behalf of the organizer (chilled out di ma tongue.gif)

Anyways, in the beginning, we wanted to give a chance to more people to have a chance to win a spot to ACG in Singapore (since we've gotten so many complains all these years why previous years champion only can go blablabla). but we've taken into consideration that the previous year winners, is probably happy since last September after WCG MY Champ because they can go to Singapore for ACG this year. and THAT IS WHY, we seed these champions all the way to the top, if they're good, they'll still go. Just to be fair to them. - i think this answers your question, arroyos.

Well, corporate people out there in the world uses ballot for a lot of things - BTW, it's not a freaking lucky draw ok. For example, PC Fair. So what if your company is a gazillion dollar company with a hundred million to build a booth during PC Fair? Welll, fair is fair for everyone, everyone has a chance to register, everyone stands a chance to get a booth, big or small, got or don't have, it's based on balloting.

We as organizers wish we could fulfill all gamers and have all the slots in the world to accommodate our beloved gamers. But yet, money don't grow on trees, my printer can't print me money, we have sacrifices we have to make. who knows when we go on our knees begging money from sponsors? anyone of you tried asking for sponsorship for such a big event? I bet it's even hard for you to get your parents to sponsor you to get a new computer.

if you guys could think straight, and stop stabbing my eyes (and my heart) with your powderful words and sentences, i'd probably not be so harsh in my earlier post. I don't have 1,000 hands, i'm not Kuan Yin.

We appreciate your suggestions.. but please remember, speak through your mind, not type blindly.


Added on May 28, 2008, 5:37 pmWow, guardioo, you camp on LY.net forum? lol


Added on May 28, 2008, 5:38 pmsugebleach: yes. and yes. - for both your questions.

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get the fact straight, we talking a registration and you talking sponsorship?
we all know getting sponsorship is not-as-easy as everyone think.
and fact of PC fair is, you paying more money, you getting better position, and you paying more money to getting bigger booth.

i do speak through my mind, if u really chilled out? re-think ur company ballot system?

nvm, just go with it, since you all think that is the best way.

you trying to offence me by saying im camping or wat? or maybe i getting little mean.

nah, just subscribe the thread and it will auto email me to my msn. there is a way to do tat.

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guardioo: hmm looks like you only want me to admit that our 'idea is sux' just like how you admitted 'your english is sux' too... but nah, i cannot admit that on behalf of the management, sorry....


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get the fact straight, we talking a registration and you talking sponsorship?
we all know getting sponsorship is not-as-easy as everyone think.
and fact of PC fair is, you paying more money, you getting better position, and you paying more money to getting bigger booth.

i do speak through my mind, if u really chilled out? re-think ur company ballot system?

nvm, just go with it, since you all think that is the best way.

you trying to offence me by saying im camping or wat? or maybe i getting little mean.

nah, just subscribe the thread and it will auto email me to my msn. there is a way to do tat.
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My dear, no sponsorship $$, you won't even have the chance to register smile.gif and... maybe you didn't get what i meant.. i was trying to imply that if we had more money, then we coulda open more slots for everyone else - and everywhere else for that matter, then no issue on registration, my dear.

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its ok then, english sux is ok, got guts to admit is better than those doesnt having guts to admit.

im not asking you to admit anyway, but your idea do sux if you really read all the post, you doesnt agree and just go with it happily, i do know my english "sux".

And your english do better than mine, so any relationship which i trying to refer to dota players?

oh ya, to use the immediate email respond for this thread, if you cant think of it?or refuse to accept ppl idea? you can say ppl camping in forum.

yes, i do listen you my dear, im not asking you to open more slot.
if you have time, just check all the post, i never ask to open more slot, there is always limited time, PC issues bla bla, i just saying of registration and seeding system.

Oh my dear, i do know about no sponsor no registration or no AWCG malaysia, but hey, you are the one who getting the event, you should try to done nicely.



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ok..noted that answer,angelstarz.

ok la guardioo..u have tried ur best to fight the best for this acg prelim..

take a rest bro.

cheers! and gl to all gamers this weekend!

p/s: we dont type blindly.we provide points and not jst complaint why why why why...

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thanks arroyos,

i do wish all ppl good luck,
well, good luck to you too angelstarz, eventhough u does teasing me about my english. just hope you have a smooth event running on.

Of course, to avoid mis-understanding, im not threating you at friday/saturday event, i wont asking any gangster nor mafia to disturb.
this really just the wish of good luck

We done it all politely, with words or might be voices with flaming, suggestion or might be discussion.

since i given my suggestion, you given ur explaination, you doesnt accept my suggestion nor i dont accept ur ballot system.

Just good luck.
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disclaimer a bit.. i'm not saying everyone is shooting blindly, ya.

In the WCG history, we've always been an open tournament, we don't want to limit anybody from joining. we don't wanna be bias and say we keep half the slots for gamers who'd won every other gaming tournament because then it will not be fair to the rest...

Anyway, i just wanted mr. guardioo to understand.. that we have a lot of constraints along the way where you guys will not be able to see with your naked eyes. Yes, that is our problem, and thus, we are still trying our best to make it fair for everyone and accommodate everyone.

Yeah, we're the one who organize the event, so don't tell me what i SHOULD do, but your suggestions are greatly appreciated. And oh, if i'm not doing my job 'nicely' i won't even be bothered with all the complains. *disclaimer* this post DOES NOT point to anyone.

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about the lucky draw and not first come first serve !
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Thanks for trying your best June If it's already decided...then so be it. No hard feelings ya smile.gif, just wanted to bring my idea across so IN2 don't miss out an old-timer's opinion. Just hope that the feedback will be considered for future events, like the Malaysian WCG proper

GL everyone for the qualifiers, I'll be coming back from Singapore just to catch this event. Fight fair, and fight hard!
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im not your boss, i cant tell you what you should do, if im the one that pay you salary, and im the sponsor, of course there is turnaround case.

and not asking half of the slot from 32 slots, just maybe 4-8 if possible.

i never say u never do your job nicely, its about accepting suggestion or not? dont get wrong ok, i only say registration and ballot system is "sux"

infact, you need to get PC, signage, advertising, table, sound/audio system, decoration, pre-setup, geting sponsor, "you doesnt need to knee down to sponsor anyway" and even table arrangement and floor plan, well, plenty of documentation, we all know you done thing more than this, just it a little bit more better if you accept my suggestion.

b4 i leaving back to home, just to tell you, good luck on friday and saturday. (bcoz my msn suddenly pop up there is a 2 new post)


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ahh just one of those days...



anyway base on some calculation i made.. if the participants are less than 32 everyone will be able to play..



but if its more than 64 then it will all be on luck liao. The chances to get a spot will be tougher once it reaches 64. Below 64 still have a slight chance to qualify.



so hopefully with all this bising2 here there might b a reduce number of ppl joining.. or maybe not? ^^



edited: yup i have prob as well

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First of all, those who think i flame them or revenge or whatever, i do apologize for that. besides, there's no need to use capital ya.

Thanks for reminding me about there's Dota players who wish to complain too, well, maybe they all are chinese educated, with limited english knowledge, however, they all can still login lowyat and say simple stuff, which is not hard to understand, like " I Don't Like?" "It is not good?" "Because I think it is not really fair?" I do believe they can say easy things like this too. For dota is another case just like what nles mentioned. For dota, we did try our best to come out with a solution, just like seeding the champion, but where to find the champion? I believe you all won't know as well, however we got suggestion on this too, and mostly we will work on it even it's only 2days left.

I am not flaming anyone or attacking any clans. I am just stating that base on what i can see from here and what i know. AND that's why i pointed out Mostly WINDS and ONE myFes ppl here. Am i wrong with that? And based on the thing that u guys posted for me, all top players mostly WINDS? Is that wrong as well? So basically what i said is wrong, so i think i better just keep quiet. And maybe my english is too sux as well, therefore you all cannot understand what i am trying to say. I do sorry for that too.

Mr. Nigel, if you do think that's an offence, ok, i apologize. I don't know why will you think that's an attacking? Or maybe you can definie the meaning for me? Maybe like i said, my english is a bit sux, so therefore i cannot fully understand what's all about.

Thank you for the one who mentioned about seeding in WCG National Championship. So i know, it will save me a lot of troubles. HELL YA! But do you all ever think what will happen after that? OK maybe there's a guy will point out, "HEY u know what, in one of the previous year, xxx did this for us, xxx let us seeding? why that year xxx can, and now cannot?" SO let me tell you this story, one day, an annonymous gamer accidentally saw this online in lowyat.net, regarding a guy have posted something about seeding from one of the TOP clan in Msia, I do not wish to point out who's that, however, they know themselves, so this gamer was curious, why is it like that?

So what happen to this gamer? He copy all this thing, and sent to ICM, for those who don't know ICM, i can tell you. ICM = Main Organiser of WCG, so they came and questioned In2, WHAT HAPPEN to this SEEDING thing? Who allow you to do so and so? Therefore after that year, thx bye to the xxx for allowing that happen. I personally do not blame the xxx, no doubt xxx tried to help the gamers, but xxx never know ICM will happen to know in the end.

But anyway let's forget about xxx, let me point out another example, i believe everyone know about World Champion, do they get seed to GF straight? Do they? Can anyone tell me about this? Maybe the GF Champion do get seed in their own countries's national, but they still have to fight, if not their countries can just straight send them to GF. Why bother organise?

So that means now, i can actually suggest ICM's ppl just do seeding for those top countries, why not? You can help your money save money on sponsoring? Is that not right? I do know people from ICM as i worked with them before, and there's no such thing as this seeding. If we can do it, why won't we do it? Therefore you wont see June and Me keep trying to expain things here or maybe you can say flaming here.

Chapree: I know you have freedom to post what you want. I don't blame you on that. Thanks for you reply tho.

Anyway, i believe this is a full stop here. I do wish everyone good luck, i do wish everyone all the best =)
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To my knowledge, a few international tournament did category teams into High seed, Medium Seed and Low Seed. Hmm, the xxx ppl only got 3 x so not me lolx.

Anyway right now I don't think the main problem is the seeding issue, is more likely to be the registration process.

If I may ask, during registration do you need 5 members to present there? After their teams got chosen, will they be able to change line up?
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Thanks for reminding me about there's Dota players who wish to complain too, well, maybe they all are chinese educated, with limited english knowledge, however, they all can still login lowyat and say simple stuff, which is not hard to understand, like " I Don't Like?" "It is not good?" "Because I think it is not really fair?" I do believe they can say easy things like this too. For dota is another case just like what nles mentioned. For dota, we did try our best to come out with a solution, just like seeding the champion, but where to find the champion? I believe you all won't know as well, however we got suggestion on this too, and mostly we will work on it even it's only 2days left.



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Thank you for the one who mentioned about seeding in WCG National Championship. So i know, it will save me a lot of troubles. HELL YA! But do you all ever think what will happen after that? OK maybe there's a guy will point out, "HEY u know what, in one of the previous year, xxx did this for us, xxx let us seeding? why that year xxx can, and now cannot?" SO let me tell you this story, one day, an annonymous gamer accidentally saw this online in lowyat.net, regarding a guy have posted something about seeding from one of the TOP clan in Msia, I do not wish to point out who's that, however, they know themselves, so this gamer was curious, why is it like that?

But anyway let's forget about xxx, let me point out another example, i believe everyone know about World Champion, do they get seed to GF straight? Do they? Can anyone tell me about this? Maybe the GF Champion do get seed in their own countries's national, but they still have to fight, if not their countries can just straight send them to GF. Why bother organise?

So that means now, i can actually suggest ICM's ppl just do seeding for those top countries, why not? You can help your money save money on sponsoring? Is that not right? I do know people from ICM as i worked with them before, and there's no such thing as this seeding. If we can do it, why won't we do it? Therefore you wont see June and Me keep trying to expain things here or maybe you can say flaming here.

Chapree: I know you have freedom to post what you want. I don't blame you on that. Thanks for you reply tho.

Anyway, i believe this is a full stop here. I do wish everyone good luck, i do wish everyone all the best =)
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Either your explaination is not that well, or my understanding is so bad.

Of course still have to fight, but they got seeded, just like the seeded players/clan, of course they still have to fight, either they wait for long-train players/clan to defeat them in the seeded position. Or they defeat long-train players/clan with thier seeded position.
Im not asking much slot, 4-8 if possible.

June explaination is fine, i didnt even saying any "vulgar" to her, just a suggestion to her.

Regarding seeding of 1 of top clan in msia for asia world cyber games, i think this one you meant for dota, which why last year doesnt have?
i still remember, maybe i can say i having a good memory, i recalled back that last year, asia WCG for dota, there isnt any qualifier for dota held by in2, last year is the players themselves organize, they were trying to asking for a spot in AWCG, but organiser telling them they need to go through qualifiers, so they held the qualifier themselves. And dont get wrong, im not saying you never done your work, im only saying you guys cant done it becoz last year budget/time problems. (and year b4 that doesnt have dota qualifier, and a a year that WCG msia final having dota, but another year doesnt have dota, due to in2 and smm having problems "rumours".)

And yeap, world champion do get seeded, eventhough they need to fight, but there is seeding.

Just to make you clear why WCG Grand Finals might be hard for seeding and having a Group of Death. becoz is fighting among country. every country are saying they r the best.
And why is local having seeding system, we can take nearest country as singapore/indonesia/china as example, thier qualifier having a seeding system. bcoz we trying to select the best player.

But now, i dun want to talk about the damn seeding, its about registration, i pull back the topic.

IT IS THE REGISTRATION ISSUES!

About qualifiers, after this AWCG gone through, you can ask early about how would you like WCG Malaysia finals be done.
After this and that comments, we can summarize for you, and even helping you doing qualifier when there is volunteer.
IF there is state doesnt have qualifier, we even can help them doing online qualifier.

But what we saying is travel all away...and there is always a damn issues with bus/airplane issues.
You can ask, regarding internet issues, ppl only complain internet slow/disconnection but not for posting a damn email registration issues.

The full stop isnt a full stop, june post, ok...she trying to explain and eventhough i doesnt accept her explaination, but gamers have to go for it.

But your post is making a lot misunderstanding. i doesnt want to comment much about yourself, just your post very misunderstanding.

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I read with great interest all your feedback and I wish to put a stop to this. This will be my only post in this thread.

We hear your opinions and we appreciate it. Of coz as the organiser we have our own constraint as well and I dont expect any of you to understand if you have never been in our shoes. And if you are one of those out there who think you can do a better job than us, well let me extend this opportunity to you out there to come work with us in organising WCG 2009.

Anyway, no long essay from me [no offence Jali smile.gif], we just want to know, first come first serve vs balloting. We are only going to do this one more time, we are allowing gamers one more chance to petition their thoughts, after which I personally do not wish to hear anymore complaints and there will not be anymore changes.

We will make a decision tomorrow morning based on feedback from you [only feedback after this post]. Reply wisely and do take into consideration what are the implications as well.

Naka/Anglestarz will let you know our decision tomorrow morning.

p/s No point getting so upset with Naka & Angelstarz when they are only doing their job & there is no right or wrong way of doing things as well.


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QUOTE(lisac @ May 28 2008, 11:04 PM)
I read with great interest all your feedback and I wish to put a stop to this. This will be my only post in this thread.

We hear your opinions and we appreciate it. Of coz as the organiser we have our own constraint as well and I dont expect any of you to understand if you have never been in our shoes. And if you are one of those out there who think you can do a better job than us, well let me extend this opportunity to you out there to come work with us in organising WCG 2009.

Anyway, no long essay from me [no offence Jali smile.gif], we just want to know, first come first serve vs balloting. We are only going to do this one more time, we are allowing gamers one more chance to petition their thoughts, after which I personally do not wish to hear anymore complaints and there will not be anymore changes.

We will make a decision tomorrow morning based on feedback from you [only feedback after this post]. Reply wisely and do take into consideration what are the implications as well.

Naka/Anglestarz will let you know our decision tomorrow morning.

p/s No point getting so upset with Naka & Angelstarz when they are only doing their job & there is no right or wrong way of doing things as well.
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lisac, if the registration only having 2 choices of coming to KL by 1st come 1st basis VS balloting system, obviously got no choice but 1st come 1st serve.

so 1st come 1st serve then..
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Thanks Lisa for hearing the public's opinion.

Let the voting begin =)
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1 more vote for 'First come first serve'!

[W|nDs] LoOn4tiC

p/s: Thanks lisac!

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[lol nice 1 lisa.



vote for 1st come 1st serve


reason: I wrote a long karangan with a poem ady XD
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vote 1st come 1st serve...at least we can do something to ensure that we will be able to join...
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.... hmm .. i doubt there will be 32 players for FIFA ... unsure.gif

i vote ............... so that the IN2 never cancel the qualifiers blink.gif

and i vote ............ si jali should play as well the whole qualifiers ( i have some personal battle with him ) nod.gif

and i vote for ...... extra prizes for the 2nd-32th ..... thumbup.gif

and i vote for ...... wait let me think first later i post .. tongue.gif
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My vote is for first come first serve.

Thanks WCG.my team, for considering our thoughts once again. nod.gif
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First come, first serve...

Please keep the site updated with latest information...see ya guys on Friday!
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To all of you, i do apologize if i did offence you. However, I am just pointing out some points.

Anyway, since all of you vote for FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, then WE will Change this once again !

THIS TOURNAMENT WILL BE A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE basis.

Good Luck to you all and HAVE FUN, and kick others ass when represent Malaysia, please do make Malaysia proud.

Thank you all...
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QUOTE(NakA @ May 29 2008, 04:32 AM)
To all of you, i do apologize if i did offence you. However, I am just pointing out some points.

Anyway, since all of you vote for FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, then WE will Change this once again !

THIS TOURNAMENT WILL BE A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE basis.

Good Luck to you all and HAVE FUN, and kick others ass when represent Malaysia, please do make Malaysia proud.

Thank you all...
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no need say sry pls .. . . we say sry for all the trouble we are giving to you all (organizers) and tq for all the great job u guys are sacrificing for us !!!!!!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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... so fast finish arguing .... ohmy.gif .. i just entered the frame ...

............. so "Siapa Cepat , Dia Dapat" ... brows.gif ..... i bet some fellows will be lining up from 10am .. laugh.gif


btw .. i have to disagree bout "vs Jali" at the FINALS... , thats no fair .. he should enter the qualifiers as well ..

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[lol nice 1 lisa.
vote for 1st come 1st serve
reason: I wrote a long karangan with a poem ady XD
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see he even voted for "FIRST COME , FIRST SERVE" ... whistling.gif ..... its not like "FIRST COME , LAST SERVE" ..
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so right now the registration is first come first serve for dota?and its only 16 teams playing?when the registration open?can tell me details please ;s

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so right now the registration is first come first serve for dota?and its only 16 teams playing?when the registration open?can tell me details please ;s
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QUOTE(NakA @ May 29 2008, 03:32 AM)
To all of you, i do apologize if i did offence you. However, I am just pointing out some points.

Anyway, since all of you vote for FIRST COME FIRST SERVE, then WE will Change this once again !

THIS TOURNAMENT WILL BE A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE basis.

Good Luck to you all and HAVE FUN, and kick others ass when represent Malaysia, please do make Malaysia proud.

Thank you all...
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Naka,sorry as well for my post with capital letters..

cheers to naka,in2!


gl all gamers!

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Yeah thx for the effort ^^




So now the camping begins!




Im gonna bring some oreo and torch light. Whose gonna bring magazine and woods for camp fire? lol ^^





out of topic: wateva la sildes.. only now u show up.. zzz... lol ^^

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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 29 2008, 03:26 PM)
lol, cakap ngan boss nak cuti, asked why. Said want to play game. Got a weird look XD
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Then u shld give a weird look back at him XD
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Oh ya 1 more question...


have the FIFA Rules been finalize? Because from what i've seen at the website it is still the old rules from the FIFA 07 version.


You can get the new rules for FIFA 08:


http://ec.wcg-europe.com/tourney/?id=21



This rules have been used by most of the standard FIFA competition such as SEC 08.



Do keep us updated ya. Thx ^^

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hey...
erm...is there any website tat show the rules for dota?
i mean is it a draft game?
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looks like all will be ganging up to defeat fifa champ of last year... jali... u need to watch out... LOL!
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Download parental consent form

http://in2ftp.com/wcg/Parental Consent Form 2008 _KickOff_.pdf

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Haha so how many people did you spot camping there at the moment? tongue.gif

Will be there around 1 hour time..
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Serious?? shocking.gif

60-70 NFS and FIFA players...64 slots only...so does that mean we don't have to come already? cry.gif
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hey ther.. izit no need fill the PARENTAL CONSENT FORM d ?
why the offical website don hav the form to dl d @@"


Added on May 30, 2008, 5:17 pmand more.. is there any rules using for tis wcg = =

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hi guys..
do we need a fotostat i/c?
cuz last year the WCG need....
for those who know..plz reply asap....tq
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NFS ProStreet finished quite early. Below are the Top 4 fellas, which will be continued tmrw at 11:30am.

- [r0r1]m00tsumi
- M1-Heaven
- M1-InControlz
- M1-SpeedDemon

We shall see tmrw who among the four will be up against the mighty FoRza. nod.gif

As for FIFA'08, the slots was quite full, so the competition took a very long time. When I left the venue, I think they just started Round 2 or Round 3 of the tournament. So, I don't know what is the current update.

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chapree do i need a fotostat i/c?

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QUOTE(jason991 @ May 30 2008, 08:07 PM)
chapree do i need a fotostat i/c?
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Last i checked... FIFA 4 finalist are:-
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4. [MyFes] Warrior
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omg!tomorrow my brother kawin..huhuhu.
GG!

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omg!tomorrow my brother kawin..huhuhu.
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QUOTE(chapree @ May 30 2008, 07:50 PM)
NFS ProStreet finished quite early. Below are the Top 4 fellas, which will be continued tmrw at 11:30am.

- [r0r1]m00tsumi
- M1-Heaven
- M1-InControlz
- SpeedDemon

We shall see tmrw who among the four will be up against the mighty FoRza.  nod.gif

As for FIFA'08, the slots was quite full, so the competition took a very long time. When I left the venue, I think they just started Round 2 or Round 3 of the tournament. So, I don't know what is the current update.
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QUOTE(max*lim @ May 31 2008, 01:21 AM)
SpeedDemon is a player of MAS-1 already. smile.gif  biggrin.gif  wink.gif
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QUOTE(ken0777 @ May 30 2008, 09:31 PM)
Last i checked... FIFA 4 finalist are:-
1. [W|nDs] Vin
2. [W|nDs] Al3x
3. [W|nDs] Loon4tic
4. [MyFes] Warrior
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Bro, always remember me as Ballack, the number "13" talented midfielder. So the nick is A13x! I gotta say this cos everytime ppl will think it's l3 instead of 13.. sad.gif Hahahaha... tongue.gif

GG to the top 4 finalists! All 4 are ready to whoop jali's arse... laugh.gif
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Nope you can't replace...so walkover la warrior haha! rclxm9.gif

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post May 31 2008, 02:39 AM

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post May 31 2008, 06:39 AM

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Here's some indicative stats of the player's FIFA08 strengths going into the semis later today (courtesy of YouQi's super steady Lowyat FIFA League site):

[W|nDs]Vin --- WGT07 Defending Champ -- Malaysia Rank No.2
Total Games Played 105
Total WIN-DRAW-LOSE 76-21-8 (72.4%-20%-7.6%)
Avg Goals Scored per Game 2.3429
Avg Goals Conceded per Game 0.5714

[W|nDs]Si_Jali -- WCG.MY07 Defending Champ --- Malaysia Rank No.1
Total Games Played 59
Total WIN-DRAW-LOSE 41-12-6 (69.5%-20.3%-10.2%)
Avg Goals Scored per Game 1.9831
Avg Goals Conceded per Game 0.6780

[W|nDs]A13x -- CGS08 1st Runner-Up -- Malaysia Rank No.6
Total Games Played 174
Total WIN-DRAW-LOSE 118-28-28 (67.8%-16.1%-16.1%)
Avg Goals Scored per Game 2.1149
Avg Goals Conceded per Game 0.7471

[W|nDs]Lo0n4tiC -- CGS07 Champion -- Malaysia Rank No.3
Total Games Played 44
Total WIN-DRAW-LOSE 26-8-10 (59.1%-18.2%-22.7%)
Avg Goals Scored per Game 2.1818
Avg Goals Conceded per Game 1.3636

[MyFes]Warrior -- WCG.MY07 1st Runner-Up -- Malaysia Rank No.4
No data available (??%-??%-??%)

So, who will you be rooting for today? The favourite? Or the underdog? You decide! And pls make some noise today at the semis, final, and ultimate match vs. defending champ Si_Jali.

I'm back in KL.... see you all there today at 11.30am! =)

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post May 31 2008, 07:20 AM

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ah, rugi lak aku bagi ko score gol tu...
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post May 31 2008, 07:43 AM

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post May 31 2008, 09:01 AM

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post May 31 2008, 09:39 AM

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post May 31 2008, 09:45 AM

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baru bangun tido...
tired...
continue back tidoooo.....
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post May 31 2008, 10:28 AM

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post May 31 2008, 12:40 PM

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k..
frst of all..
this is real suck.....i din know they change it back to first come first served basics...yesterday i saw it which is no limit to how many team register then only draw 16 team to compete...but 2day they told me it only limid to 16 team...
i was like wtf.....i travel so far to there n they told me they hav change...
in2 really dissapointed me....this time juz so bad.....really fark man...


Added on May 31, 2008, 12:40 pmp/s i would nvr join AWCG anymore....ever....

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pls update

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post May 31 2008, 12:47 PM

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Moot won his match
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[wInDs] vin vs [MyFes] Warr|or

[wInDs] LooN vs [wInDs] A13x



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http://wakarimasenlol.com/?p=376 <-- moot's sexy pictars by his own reckoning
QUOTE(jason991 @ May 31 2008, 12:40 PM)
k..
frst of all..
this is real suck.....i din know they change it back to first come first served basics...yesterday i saw it which is no limit to how many team register then only draw 16 team to compete...but 2day they told me it only limid to 16 team...
i was like wtf.....i travel so far to there n they told me they hav change...
in2 really dissapointed me....this time juz so bad.....really fark man...


Added on May 31, 2008, 12:40 pmp/s i would nvr join AWCG anymore....ever....
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Ko sapa?


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post May 31 2008, 04:48 PM

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Err got DotA?
Anyways Vin will vs Loon4tic for the FIFA Final
MOOT IS GAY!
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post May 31 2008, 06:57 PM

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forza won.
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post May 31 2008, 07:52 PM

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DotA result. And just the result. i don't give a shit about the score
DNA_WNG vs Kingsuit (w)
W4SI_RST(w) vs Cybertime_GOV

Final Match winner will meet W4SI_Tbun

Anyways for FIFA, WINDS Vin made a complete comeback. Lost the first match 2-0 to loon4tic and trailing 1-0 in the final match, he scored 4 goals to meet si_jali in the final^2
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post May 31 2008, 10:23 PM

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budak jali won! cayalah beb!

forza won samsung hp also! men gitar mcm cial smile.gif
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post May 31 2008, 10:34 PM

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farker itu budak, hax cam sial. Anyways, pics will be in mah blog
http://wakarimasenlol.com/?p=376
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This was kinda disturbing for me

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!! update DoTa result pls !!
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both me and chapree lari home after the FIFA finals. The dota was too late for both of us
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 31 2008, 10:34 PM)
farker itu budak, hax cam sial. Anyways, pics will be in mah blog
http://wakarimasenlol.com/?p=376
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This was kinda disturbing for me
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insert p*n*s where again? xD
so tired, teedo time
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kingsurf win tbun-w4si
ks: sladar sf puck zeus viper
w4si: treant wl lion naix necro

this is what i know from friend.
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ May 31 2008, 10:42 PM)
both me and chapree lari home after the FIFA finals. The dota was too late for both of us
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I lari around 10 minutes after the DoTA Super Finals started. Yeah, it was quite late that time, already 10pm +.


QUOTE(baowen @ Jun 1 2008, 12:09 AM)
kingsurf win tbun-w4si
ks: sladar sf puck zeus viper
w4si: treant wl lion naix necro

this is what i know from friend.
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Walau, Ks revenge the training camp ah? laugh.gif
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Wahahaha no one wants to post Forza punya pics liao...all post mine...sorry yea forza...jangan marah i lagi popular now tongue.gif

Oi Chap post ur photos la...u took more of my 'hensem' photos than your gay partner linkingheystreet's...he alwiz took nonsense photos hahaha
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On today ACG Dota Malaysia

Final
Kingsurf vs Tbun/W4si again and the Final result is Kingsurf win
(Last year Malaysia got 1st runner-up,this we really waiting they bring the Champion back.Good luck to they)
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see u all at computex tongue.gif

and where the heck is my pixtar weiii..faster upload la..i wanna giv to taiwan chikazkaz drool.gif

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QUOTE(MyGaming-Lim @ Jun 1 2008, 02:19 AM)
On today ACG Dota Malaysia

Final
Kingsurf vs Tbun/W4si again and the Final result is Kingsurf win
(Last year Malaysia got 1st runner-up,this we really waiting they bring the Champion back.Good luck to they)
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paulyan is in KS now ??
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http://wakarimasenlol.com/?p=376
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How is it decided that Tbun/w4s| was the team seeded into the finals for dota?
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Bugger Forza...gi pakai cam tu kat Taiwan! tongue.gif

Eh anyone took the pixs of the Group Stages board after they wrote the names there?

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How is it decided that Tbun/w4s| was the team seeded into the finals for dota?
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the dota community make a tourney themself to choose the team that will be seeded straight to the final and W4SI-Tbun won in that tourney,this is wat i was told by 1 of the dota players
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QUOTE(colincsf @ Jun 1 2008, 01:36 PM)
the dota community make a tourney themself to choose the team that will be seeded straight to the final and W4SI-Tbun won in that tourney,this is wat i was told by 1 of the dota players
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I see. So I guess the training camp was more than just a 'training'.

Thx for clearing that up smile.gif
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Hard to get replays as WCG won't give them away
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Forza is teh pro...don pray pray....haha...good luck to forza and Rini at the Finals
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QUOTE(k1LL/st3aL @ Jun 1 2008, 01:40 PM)
I see. So I guess the training camp was more than just a 'training'.

Thx for clearing that up smile.gif
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even if it's called a 'training camp',but all the players seems to play their best n w4s| can still manage to beat KS during the so-called 'training' worh..KS doesn't seem like playing easily when they took on w4s| at the final.POTM + ES so gay at the final!
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uh comelnye tak tahan ni..
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QUOTE(kujaboyde @ Jun 2 2008, 12:38 AM)
uh comelnye tak tahan ni..
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pix earthquake nak?? LOL

MIA 1st..wanna brekfes bak kut teh wif jali.. flex.gif


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Jali's room
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He jealous my bathroom got jakuzi style tongue.gif although he got 2nd biggest room n mine 3rd on this hotel biggrin.gif
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have to call..9421-222-222..chapree knows what i mean wahahahahaha
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woi..forza..kau hutang aku duit petrol dan toll..

!!! tongue.gif
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Replay won't be released la...

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WCG: Kick Off on TV3 Remaja...

Cutenya Lisa.. blush.gif

Vin also very hensem! laugh.gif

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