Note to the organisers regarding Dota.

With the recent release of 6.52c , Icefrog has managed to fixed some imperfections in the 6.52 version which is incidentally what is written in the rules and I assume will be used if no announcement is done to change it ourselves.

This is the link to the latest Asian Dota Championship rule set for the regular season where as one of the head admins , I personally had a hand in drafting it :

ADC Season 2 Rules

To make it easier to comprehend , its basically using the same rules as the published ACG Dota Rules with the following differences :

1. Each team will have the chance to ban 4 heroes now instead of 3 in the current rules. So basically both teams will be allowed to take out 4 heroes from the pool of heroes before drafting starts. This will work based on a 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 format. This can be seen by simply typing -xl in the new map and the default mode set by the creator is 4 bans for each side.

2. The usage of the map 6.52c as the map for the tournament instead of 6.52. This change is in my opinion a must as the creator of the map has addressed several known and unknown issues in the 6.52 map which in our opinion makes the game more stable for tournament play. As the rules stated that the latest stable map version will be used in tournaments, 6.52c is the latest stable map

Attempts to reach the administration of ACG in Singapore has not been successful over the past few weeks. As the rules above will surely be implemented over time as it is in total adherence to the spirit of the rules and the default mode of banning set by the creator of the map, I hope the change above can be implemented in the qualifiers that is to be held next week where change number 2 is much more crucial.

Any queries about this can be directed through pm or communicated through My-Gaming Lim the SMM Dota tournament head marshal.

On a side note , since Dota presents a huge chance for Malaysia of grabbing honours for the nation in this prestigious Asian E-sports tournament , I am seeking assistance in securing the following teams automatic berths and seedings into the brackets :

1. Team Kingsurf from Johor
2. Team w4si from Perak
3. Team Ice from Penang
4. Team mKvL from KL
5. Team Cybertime-Gov from KL

All 5 teams has proved over the past year as possessing the teamwork and skills to prove they are heads and shoulders above the rest in the field, signs of them putting more work than anyone else in the game. Though the organisers stressed the importance of fairness in allowing teams to register on a first come first serve basis , but it is not fair in my opinion for even 1 of these potential medal winners for the nation in ACG actually missing a spot to qualify just because 11 other teams actually woke up at 6 am to get themselves registered before they can (an exaggeration but you get the point).
I was with team Cybertime 1 when they cruised to the finals of ACG Dota last year and I overheard one of them mentioned that it is much easier to reach the finals for ACG than it was for them to do so in any Malaysia competition. This is just how good we are at Dota and I think our top teams deserve to at least be given a fair chance to properly qualify in next week's qualifiers without any untoward incidents happening to them from the "first come first serve" basis of registration like the one i mentioned above.
Any pre-register work such as the setting of the latest time (which will be determined later) to be there to secure an auto berth or payment of a fee to secure a spot in the 16 team bracket can be arranged with me through pm and I will gladly ensure the teams mentioned above follow them through.

This post has been edited by underminer: May 24 2008, 11:35 AM

There is a reason to be concerned as 3 of the 5 mentioned teams are from outstation and a team of 5 has much more logistics issues than say a Fifa player.

With Dota tournaments easily breaking the 30 team mark in Klang Valley alone even with a fee charged nowadays , there might be a chance that random teams which are just lucky to be there early enough might just sneak into the 16 qualifier spots over say a team which is a known top 2 in Malaysia (team Hybrid for CS for example) who arranged bus tickets from Johor to participate in this event missed out on the chance due to some technical issues that could occur on that day.

I would never doubt the teams I mentioned above will certainly appear in the vicinity before the registration starts at 11pm that day. But the way the registration is worded creates a slight chance that the unthinkable may just happen at that day itself. In CS terms it will be to deny Team Hybrid , in Fifa terms it will be to deny Si Jali and of course in NFS terms it will be to deny Chapree the chance to participate in this qualifiers for one of the top events of the year.

I actually have a team from Sabah which traditionally did well at the local scene but do not want to risk flying their whole team down due to this slight chance of being denied participation on that day itself.

If the aim of this qualifiers is to select the best team and players to represent our nation in this international event, some more efforts are need to be done to ensure the selection will be based on the best possible pool of 16 we can get.

And in my book , there is not much fairness if any one of the above incidents that I bolded happened to any of their respective games which will certainly be regarded as a disaster in their respective communities.

Was planning to stop replying after looking at the "camp out" idea which makes very good sense considering the system we had in place at the beginning.

With this lucky draw idea being brought up , even passion , discipline and determination will not be enough to secure your spot anymore.

Totally agree with twenty06 idea. Let the top 16 of individual and top 8 for Group games in skill be automatically placed in the brackets and let the other half be on first come first serve basis / lucky draw. That way , a balance can be attained between both ideas and the top players will still be representing Malaysia in the end.

For Dota , a simple check on this year's threads of tourneys in this forum can give you a rough idea of who the top 8 is. If you want to save time , just contact me through pm and I will give you a summary of all those results (Yes, I keep them for seeding purposes to advise organisers on seedings on their own tournaments.) and if need be , a recomendation of the 8 teams to be seeded directly into the brackets.

As 1 of the organisers of the of last years ACG qualifiers for Dota , we actually invited teams that has done reasonably well in tourneys to participate in order to save time and to ensure the quality of teams in our limited brackets. We called each team to confirm their participation before entering them into the brackets.

In the end , 15 teams of which half of those are from outstation made it to Cybertime OUG despite the 2 day notice given from us and the winner an almost foregone conclusion. As expected the dominant team of that time, Cybertime 1 (ROA) won in a pulsating final and represented Malaysia to 2nd place in ACG last year.

No complaints were uttered throughout in the whole event because of the diverse teams and fairness in the process of picking the teams that deserved to be there.

Given a chance , we would gladly help out in ensuring the system is implemented again . But since its under the a different management team now, I surely hope that no less effort is being done to ensure the best team represent Malaysia this time and claim that Asian Champion Title which is rightfully ours.