having 32 slots more better than having 0 slot 

Chappppp.. cannot increase lah, later nfs oso wanna increase, dota oso wanna increase we play until next month di. lol.

If last year's champion not able to make it, 2nd runner-up will be seeded up to the finals.

Team that will be seeded for DotA will be the team that went for ACG last year.

I think that is obvious enough.

Rules TBC, definitely a new set, but we're still "localizing" it.

ooo...got it.didnt read that post thanks bro

prize is rm1000 1st prize 2nd prize rm2000

3rd prize rm3000

and get free 1 handphone for joining...good luck all suckers!

where i want to register my team??

front page ? 

first of all, jali, i never complaint about no tourney.
and 2nd, mutsumi, i kinda feel like u like a so called act pro in gaming community like that.
if you think you really went to singapore wcg and be a marshall and proud of it, yea, go for it.
yea, cry to my mommy,  i never face much pressure, im staying in kl, if you dunno anything, you better shuddap.
getting a visa its not all on organizer side, US embassy is looking at ur personal income and ur family income status too.
wat for they camp at embassy? you no brain or wat? organizer can organize thing for you, but what gamers need to do is move thier ass on.
i never asking much, i just strongly disagree of 1st come 1st serve basis, you may let gamers know registration info earlier, 1st come 1st server basis via internet registration look more better, but 1st come 1st serve basis travelling to KL without a confirm spot, so, jali...use ur mind, if there is a tourney you wanna join, it locate in europe, it  32 player 1st come 1st serve basis, would you thinking of going there? we all can talk, you say you might, but i could even say, taking flight for 24 hours to get there without a confirm spot, you wont so stupid and do that.

player need to play a part?? be what part?? show gamers got no life, camp early morning in lowyat?? show the lifeless?show how "otaku" gamers are?

organizer do know that they doing, im not saying they dunno, just you dunno how to use ur brain. im just giving suggestion, as you see, i never say the organizer stupid, i say it dis-organize, without a confirm play time, what time would player would be play, if player from others states, dun even know wat time they play, and if final on sunday?monday got work?what time they should buy thier ticket?? i saying the dis-organize regarding this.

and you know what, i would like to shutup, but i cant, coz when i see brainless ppl, seriously....but yea..i can do better than in2....every event obviously got ppl complaint, but i confirm i can done better than in2.
shoot me if u can, i believe if you never done a big event b4, you better keep your hand off the keyboard though.

btw, i never see naka post, regarding ur issues, it is confirm human like to complaint, but just the matter of how you guys reduce the event complaint.
you may get complaint from host, gamers, clients or even press for not arranging stuff from them, but if really organize well, there is no much complaint about that, if gamers complaint about fees so expensive, first of all, there is not much gamers complaint regarding the fees issues. obviously everyone would think of instead paying money, i prefer get it free, dun tell me you doesnt have the same thinking, at least i rather pay, when i pay something, i obviously expect a return of better service or product.
but i think in2 wanted see the crowd actually.

so, it come to jali so-called passion, it need passion, u can save money even, but halo, not for unconfirmed spot, i think ppl from others states even sabah or sarawak, prefer confirmed a spot and pay money instead of camping outside lowyat to get unconfirmed spot, you will know, there always so called 1st come 1st basis, but it never successful, might as well consider of if there others states player coming, why dont getting a spot for them.

well, naka i am certainly not flaming you, i would rather see jali and mutsumi saying gamers need passion, they do need, bcoz they staying kl and not others, you know...if you saying word like, "too bad, move to kl next time" "stay in kl next time" "just come camp and rent a room early", there is so "SAMI-VELLU" thinking, dun use the toll la if u dun like, dun stay in malaysia la if you dun like.
consider the age of gamers dude, saving money and getting hotel here from others states, or you never thinking out of the world? just living in ur own world?

Ok. After the discussions among everyone and the management, there's a new solution for this.

ALL gamers can COME FOR THIS QUALIFIER! You all can register your team or yourself for the games that you want to play. After that, we will do balloting. Fair enough. No complains. We will pick or even the gamers whoever wish to pick can come up to the stage and pick as well. We will pick till the slots are full. That's it.

Whichever way, for sure i know there's complains. People will say "oh my god, i come all the way here, and end up i can't get a slot?" This is fully depends on your luck now. Don't like first come first serve? So this is the only way we can accomodate EVERYONE !

Don't tell me, "oh why cannot open more slot?" Well, well, like i said, if we can, for sure we will do it, you really think we like complains so much? Do you really think we are so free, everyday just listen to complains, you all have to know that, we do what we can do, we do our best for you all. For sure there's some reasons behind that does not allow us to do it, and it is not necessary for us to point out what's this and that to you all one by one.

Leave your feedback again or complains or whatever you want.

I will go through.

yeah and the registration process became from the bestest to the bestoooooooooost 
its now a gamble instead of a waiting game

LUCKY DRAW???!!!!!!!!!!

huahhahhahahhahhhahhahhaha..lawak nyeeee.......sangat2 lawak..SO damn funny!!! huhahhahaha

how bout, all the previous champ also join the lucky draw??are u (the champ) dare guys??

Eddy, GOOD !!! i agree with your idea

Besides, pre-registration? How it works? Can tell me? so whoever 32 register first, then the slots close? So, ppl at that time can say, oh my internet not working? oh i am busy that time? oh i am not at home that time?

Good one on seeding as well. So that means Msia always having same gamers roll and roll, i fight you, you fight me. What if there's a good one, actually he stands a chance to join, but, because seeding, he missed out? So this isn't fair to him as well. There's nothing fair to be honest. It's just that you scare you lose a chance? You can't represent Msia? What about others? If that's the case, only 16 ppl stand a chance?

What happen if you are the one who's not in the seeding? How will you feel? I am a normal player, i trained and try my best, but i only have 1/16 possibility to get a slot. Think about it, those who post all the times are the one who's on lowyat. I do believe there's ppl who's not on there too. So is this fair to those who's not on lowyat? Ok, you may say they are noob, beginner or whatever? But are you not a noob before? PPL Join just because they want to gain more experience, but even this little chance, you also don't give ppl, so is this call fair? And the so called TOP PPL like you all, every year also seeding, is it fair as well? Then might as well, we don't need to have WCG Qualifier for National Championship? Seed you all, that will be enough. Isn't that right? So we can send best of the best to Germany this year, don't need to bother about those "NOOB" or whatever it is.

Upset about In2? Why do In2 want to organize this? The reason is because In2 wants to let everyone has a chance to join eventhough they know they cannot accomodate a lot of ppl, but at least they try. If not, why will they bother? They can just send Jali, Forza and etc over to SG, why they want to find trouble themselves and let ppl complain about them being stupid? Ridiculous? Do you think organizer will feel nice? It's like Hey, you this gamer, you are so stupid, do you feel nice? do you? i am asking you! whoever you are...

You all think about it, don't just know how to complain. Every reasons have their own pros and cons. You all just keep telling me about the advantage of seeding? what about disadvantages? Do you all really ever think about that? Don't tell me there's none.. it's f*king bullshit if you tell me that..

Before Eddy posted about the seeding, why there's no one mention about that? Well, i did not say Eddy's suggestion is not good, however, what's the point? Like you all said, choose best of the best? Or should i just say it's just a selfish thought about ownself? Why do i only see those who knows themselves confirm get a slot one keep posting about seeding? Can i refer that as selfish? Can i? If not let me know pls, i wud love to accept ur feedback.

Thanks and above is just my opinion, welcome to discuss about it, and it's nothing related with In2 at all. =)

to be fair...why need to do the draw? and y need to limit the spot up to 32 only? n y need to do the seeding? n y seed the last champion automatically to final?

just do "open slot" registration.

so every new player, noob, taiko gamers, professional gamers, all can join this  prelim!!

why so many y on badan bagus post?? LOL

luckily i'm not playing
to those who are disappointed, forget this and train hard wcg national final
play wutever u haf to play, do wutever u haf to do...if u do it properly, any solutions by them will be going ur way...by then, u wont complain and see it as a problem anymore...
competition is near, stop reading this topic and train hard for it...to those who post here more than practicing, i can tell u...you're not going to win

It's alright angelstarz.

Winds Gel, maybe you have your point there. But i think you still don't really get my point. However, forget about that.

Let's see, to be honest with you all, all i can see, most of you, majority from WInds? Correct me if i am wrong? and only one from myFes that's keep talking about this seeding thing? AND also, is it just only FIFA players who just keep mentioning about Seeding? Where's NFS ppl? come on stand out, dont shy, oh, how about Dota players too? Come on... ?

So now my question is, Winds+myFes = Whole Fifa community in Msia? Is that right? If so, ok maybe you have the right to represent all of them talk about this. I am not saying you don't have the right. OK, maybe you all really have your point there, BUT think about it ya, its suggested by only Winds and one and only myFes player about this, therefore i personally think this is not majority ya, what do you guys think?

Ok, even let's say it's majority, so we agree about the seeding, then what will happen next? Can anyone tell me? If you can, i seed you. But it's ok, i bet many of you don't. SO, next if there's any ppl look at the forum and see oh, winds+1 and only myFes's suggestion and made in2 change their mind, it looks to me, well, i think quite BIAS? So is it In2 bias? From a view of an outsider, HELL YA, its definitely Bias.. So if let's say any Gaming Media finds out this, what will they say?

OH HEADLINE, BAGUS SEKALI!! Msia Organiser Bias ~ and what will happen to In2? do you guys know? you have no idea what will happen, cos' in your mind is only hey who cares who organise, as long as i get the slot and i can play, THATS IT. Correct me if i am wrong. For Ppl who organize event, must look on a bigger picture on what we can do, what we cannot do? It's not as simple as, hey i want this, then ok you get it.

Like what angelstarz said, "the gamers could very well have stopped playing for 1 month, and standard dropped, and in the mean time, we have this gamer who'd trained for the past year, and just because he hasn't join or won any WCG competition, he's seeded. Fair?"

For example, have a look at this, http://multiplay.lowyat.net/2007/10/27/wgt...-day-1-summary/ ..

Let me just kind of post it out,
Apart from that, a shocking upset happened to [W|nDs]Leoninho, the player who eliminated the WCG Malaysia 2007 champs, [W|nDs]Si_jali during the last CGS Malaysia Qualifier. He lost 2 - 1 to an unknown player with the nick, ChowSengSong (Stephen Chow, lol). It is indeed a shocking news to everybody.

So should we seed this ChowSengSong that out from no where? Did he really have a good ranking before?

So let's say we put it back to first come first serve now, for sure also Winds+myFes players, no doubt, as you all said in previous post, sure camp at registration, and somemore you all so dedicated, isn't that right? So therefore, come out with a better way, which everyone stands a chance.

AND you want best of the best? SO like i said, if there's someone who can beat JALI, who's previous year champion, Top 4 in WCG GF year 2005, and so on, I PERSONALLY DO BELIEVE he got some F*king skills ! and Not just based on LUCK. Is that clear enough my friends??

Thanks and as usual, welcome to drop your feedback once again.

Top 18 Malaysian Fifa Ranking (based on 2007 CELGAMES, WCG, CGS and WGT)
1. [W|nDs] Si_Jali : 23 points (-)
2. [W|nDs] Vin: 22 points (-)
3. [W|nDs] Loon4tiC: 16.5 points (-1)
4. [MyFes] Warrior: 15.5 points (+1)
5. [MyFes] Solidsnake: 10 points (-1)
6. [W|nDs] Al3x: 9.5 points (-1)
7. [MyFes] Arroyos: 8.5 points (-)
8. [W|nDs] Maxsim: 7.5 points (+3)
9. [MyFes] Zietoo: 6 points (-1)
10.[MyFes] Houlivgan: 5 points (-1)
10.[W|nDs] Lleoninho: 5 points (-1)
12.[MyFes] Sildes: 2.5 points (-1)
12.[W|nDs] Des: 2.5 points (-1)
12.[Tornado] Seed: 2.5 points (new)
12. Brot: 2.5 points (new)
12.[W|nDs] Rei: 2.5 points (new)
17.[W|nDs] Juan: 1.5 points (-3)
17. Kayren: 1.5 points (-3)

Based on his post, majority, therefore i have no choice but includes you, and from what i can see in the forum, majority = Winds+myFES which is you. I am not saying you talk about seeding or what. So if based on what he said for "Think reasonably and fairly, taking half of the spots (16 out of 32) and give them to the Top Gamers based on current seedings is a brilliant step" then might as well straight away give all to Winds+myFes ?
Based on his post, majority, therefore i have no choice but includes you, and from what i can see in the forum, majority = Winds+myFES which is you. Ok maybe i did misunderstand and did offend you, i do apologize for that. But however, KALAU you tak nak MENANG, KENAPA KAU MAULAH MENYERTAI? Then what's the meaning of COMPETITION? Join but don't want to win? Where's the Spirit? Then might as well don't join, give the slot for ppl who really want to MENANG?

At first, ppl complain about First Come First serve, alright, we give face, then we change, and now? ppl complain again, SO, IF WE CHANGE again? can you 101% guarantee me there won't be anymore ppl complain? well well..

I do not wish to create problem or what here, i wish to help out as well, but i just stated out the fact why we cannot? If we can, you really think we will be so free sitting here, looking at lowyat, drink coffee, and waiting for reply? By right, we can even don't care about it.
Thanks colin =)

i think we stop 1st for lunch time..

what do u guys think??

right.. thanks NakA for helping hehe

but no point flaming please.. and seeding is not an option, why would i want to have a qualifiers if i do seedings? if i invite so called 'pro-gamers' it's pretty sore for the people who'd trained hard and be ready for this rite? if we do seedings for the 'pro-gamers', how sure are you that THESE are the best of the best? the gamers could very well have stopped playing for 1 month, and standard dropped, and in the mean time, we have this gamer who'd trained for the past year, and just because he hasn't join or won any WCG competition, he's not allowed to join. Fair? And how sure are you that these 'seeded' people is going to win when they go to Singapore?

the main reason why we implemented this balloting idea is because we want to be fair to everyone, everyone has a chance to register and has a chance to get a slot.

and, if we still go on with the first come first serve basis, can you guarantee that all the 16 or 32 slots are filled with the so-called 'pro-gamers'? Everyone thinks they are pro, everyone thinks they're good enough.

We're trying to accommodate everyone here with everything we have. Think about it. We give you computers to play, we provide you with whatever you need, and we are going to pay for your trip if you win. Tell me, if you win, who is going to be famous? definitely isn't going to be me. who is going to get the prize money if you win in Singapore? You gamers happily take your money, and we, all we get are complains from you. Now, tell me, what is fair?

Life isn't fair, get over it.

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Added on May 28, 2008, 10:26 amBTW, some changes on the timings for DotA registration, please update yourselves.

http://my.worldcybergames.com/article/read...on-wcg-kick-off

tgh makan tak bole ckp..nnti makanan tekeluar dari mulut..LOL