I took them out this morning to breakfast, then to the tire shop to fix my car, then to lunch and back. They are quite crabby in the pouch, especially when I'm unzipping. Even if I didnt touch them or put my hands in, they're scared just looking at us. I bought fruits - papaya and mango this time and drop some into the pouch. I dont think they ate it cause they're too busy being bothered by the pouch opening, crabbing and etc.

Then, I came home and I tried feeding them mealies. I bought mealies two nights ago. First night, I feed them with vege. Second night with dog kibbles (Back 2 Basic pork). Then, today, I took out one with a tweezer and cut off its head. Then, I feed it to my joeys. Luna didnt bother with it. The more I go near her with the worm, the more she run away. Then, I offered it to Moka... Wow wee, she whack the whole thing, all 3 of it.

Then, I cut another 3 headless mealies and put them into a metal bowl. Hopefully they'll go grab it later. I'll clear it off in the evening to prevent ants. Suggies are really quite odorless. I changed the litter tray today and I dont think they smell at all. I didnt even wipe the cage but just change the tray and put in new Breeder Celect.

Oh yea, I also gave them a dog kibble each as treats. Hopefully they like it. Grandma says I'm keeping mouse now. I told her is sugar glider, she dont understand and there's no hokkien name for it. Lol.

How did the event go? Hun, how's your talk? Any photos?

This post has been edited by Pennywise: May 31 2008, 04:21 PM

Wow, two days didnt login, got 5 pages to read.

Tonight, I fed them with cherries, mealworms and mangoes. I think mangoes are their favorite fruit.

If I take them out in a bonding pouch, they are noisy as hell. Like a pair of naggy old lady. Keep on crabbing.

When I wanna take them out from cage, one would run into the tunnel and another into the sleeping pouch. When I try to grab them, they crab but they no longer nip / nibble. I'm glad I'm free of the pain! Luna still struggles when I take her out from the cage. Moka is more calm.

When I put them on my shirt, they prefer to go on my back. Activity number 1 = Pee. Today I get two patches of pee. Then, poop on the floor. It's tiny so wiping is no problem.

They occassionally run to my shoulder and near my face, rarely to the back of my head. They do nibble the back end of the hair though. They also run to the sleeve but very shy when I touch them. They dont crab but Luna will run off when I touch her. Moka will stay still let me touch.

Here's two photos today.

Moka following Luna.


Luna (left) and Moka (right)

Hmmm... I'm not so sure, I dont really clean them because I believe they self groom. I will try to wipe them with baby wipes tomorrow. I'm planning to bring them out for a walk in the bonding pouch, to pasar malam.

Is it normal if gliders prefer to sleep in the metal bowl more than in the sleeping pouch?

Moka loves mealworms and each time after she eat them, she'd sleep in the same metal bowl. Takkan love until SO MUCH?! When I took out the bowl and sayang her, rub her chin and belly, she's OK.

Luna on the other hand dont like mealworms, even when dipped with slurp. I'm still trying to introduce but so far havent succeed. I took out the sleeping bag and tunnel. She dont go to the hammock but go to the bowl and squeeze in with Moka. Luna is much more crabbier than Moka.

I am so sorry for your lost. I hope you feel better soon. How many gliders do you have left? Are you planning to look for a new joey? Family members are like that, happened to me a few times too. It ended up in a fight but it dissolves later. Chill man.


Ok, I think Moka love the cool feeling of the metal bowl. Luna spend her time mostly hidden in the tunnel. The other day, I took out the tunnel and the sleeping pouch for a while. Then I played with Luna and she run off to squeeze with Moka in the bowl. So cute. The bowl can fit both of them ngam ngam.

Bite from inside the pouch through the mesh windows also can cause your fingers to bleed. That sounds really ferocious. Strange eh, inside so garang but come out OK...

You dare let your glider move around in your room? Not scared she pee into your monitor or keyboard? I have this paranoia, though it never happen before so all I could offer them is tent time.

Wow weee... can post the cage size? How big is it? Really like mansion, everything also each of them have their own one - no need share.

I've seen your DIY cage many times but first time upclose on the edges. Looks like a lot of work. How long did it take you to finish it?

This looks nice... sme more can manual handchopped it. By the way, from looking at this, I remembered something I wanted to ask - is KFC coleslaw and mashed potatoes, safe for gliders in small amount? For example, a teaspoon.

I've never seen my glider go to the water bottle, even after hanging there for 3 weeks now.

Wowww...thats a scary experience. Luckily you found her back and she's in the house. Just lock up the cage nicely lor every time and dont let her get close to your arm / cage door if you are not prepared to handle her if she comes out.

Ok, thanks for replying. It's just a thought.

Okok, thanks for replying. I just forgot that human food are not for gliders. I'll try to keep it in mind now.

Why are those joeys wet anyway? They spray water on them or what?

Wowwww... how many joeys? Can tell already?

Post up a pict, can imagine the post sure is very cute. The glider main main with you.

I am considering this as well. What's the price of just having them shave their nails there?

Manage to spend an hour and half with Luna and Moka today. Luna is still playing catching with me. Moka would stay still if i approach.

I took them out and put them on my shoulders, then i walked in circle in the kitchen. They pee on me as usual but no poo today. They running bout on my back. Luna still hate touches. Moka is hissing but never hear them bark yet.

Prepared their food and put them back. Haven't have much time with them but our bonding session will take a while. I believe its good progress.

Why do they crab when they're on my back? At each other? Can't be at me when my hands were away from them. Can they be grumpy? Sleepy and grumpy?

Oh ya, when i pushed them out of the sleeping pouch, and then i roll it up, Luna knows how to unroll it by shaking it hard and quickly run back in. Cool.

Yes, they do and it is painful. Some times got blood also... Will you give up?

OMG! I love this pict, especially the last one, the glider grabbing finger like "OH MOMMY, DONT LET ME GO!! DONT LET ME GOOOO!!! NOOOO!!!!" This is darn cute la. I am waiting for the day my gliders are able to do this with me.

These few days, I'm considering a new cage for my dogs so dont have much time with gliders. Come back only play with them 1 hour only and they are still crabby unless taken to my shoulders, then they will roam and quiet down.



This post has been edited by Pennywise: Jun 11 2008, 11:22 PM

I think I'm the only one here who use a tent for bonding. It's cheap tent I bought from Tesco for RM35. It's a 2 men tent and I think the size is... 4x4ft. Quite big once you opened it up.

I believe it's good. I've only done tent bonding with my joeys a few times. Most of the other times I'd just keep them on my shoulders and they've never jumped off.

Later on, I will give my tents to my dogs when I move to new house.

Just want to clarify something... When you guys say, sugar apple; means custard apple is it?

Tomorrow I will setup my tent and try to feed my glider outside the cage for the first time. I've always like those cute pict you post where your glider eat on top of our human desk. I've never done that before, will try tomorrow - either on desk or tent. Hopefully they wont run away.

Will post up some pict then.

Equine Park pet store got glider? Which pet store oh? Opposite Ming Chu restaurant wan is it? Opposite 7-11? I'm always around Equine Park for lunch because I work in Cyberjaya but never noticed there got glider. Must go see see...

Wowww... so cute and the fur like very nice color. Looks a lot like Joan's glider, chubby chubby a bit.

How much is this? You bought it from Pet Shack too, is it? I'm considering this triangular home or nail o' matic for my expenditure on glider this month.

This is one of the reason why I dont really dare to let my glider out in my room. If pee into my LCD screen, kaboom! Was that a expensive printer? I'm a little paranoid of letting them out. Worry they will escape. Also worry that they will pee onto my electronic stuff. This is why I need the tent.

I have never met anyone who has 3 printers at home.

Anyway, to update a bit, today I brought my glider out with me whole day. To breakfast, to Aeon Bkt Tinggi, back home, to lunch, to my grandma house, to dinner and back home. But then they both seem like so semangat and not tired one. They peeked through the mesh a lot of times but Luna is still very crabby. Moka is hissing already, I hope it's not a bad sign.

Later will have a tent time with them or feed them outside the cage tonight. Oh yea, they hate tissues - dunno why. Maybe they see tissue as a white cloth melayang, they will crab and freaked out.

After keeping glider for 1 month now, I feel that they really do need a lot of time to care for. I dont have the privilege to bring them to work but I try to get them into the pouch after work and even this, I feel it's not good enough. We are closer than when we first met but then not close enough I feel.

Lastly, today I went to My Pet Trading, a new pet store near my house in Klang. The owner previously worked for Pet Family Tmn Megah and his wife / gf used to work for Pet Family Bkt Tinggi. He saw my gliders and told me to feed it corn. I told him I read from the internet that we're not supposed to. He defended saying some time practical and theory is different, he imported 10 gliders and fed them corn just fine. Just corn and mealworms everyday, as in corn as staple food. I said I will check into it then, and he went on and on about trust him, he's experienced, glider is simple to care for, etc.

Come home , I read first page and see - corn, very high in phosphorus which may lead for bone defiency. I went like because this shows how limited their knowledge are even if they're pet store owners. I'm going back to educate him tomorrow! Hopefully layak or at least argue with him about this corn thing

Yea, the whole bonding session is OK. I already know I will not be able to invest so much time like others do but I try. I played with them till 2am just now. Just got upstairs.

I had them climb on my shoulders and then I went and sit down, read newspaper on the dining table. They went on an adventure, first around me and then they got off me and to the dining chair. Moka went to the dining table and run across the tissue box, bread box, tupperware, etc. She nearly run behind the fridge so I had to stop her. She came back quite dusty but at least she does know how to come back. Whenever she run off elsewhere, I dont have to grab her with my hand. I just kneel down and pull my shirt a bit, she'll jump right back up and run all the way to the shoulders.

When I sit back down, she will run back down and jump off me again and go adventure. Luna is less adventurous but she got off me a few times. She jumped towards the ironing board and run around it. Then, I tickle Luna with a feather, she crabbed a first and later like wanna grab the feather, trying hard to reach out and etc.

I am glad that they know how to come back. I sit down and read newspaper with the fan turned off. Sweat a lot and I left my t-shirt in the cage tonight.

I like how they jump right back at us and run from our pants up and up to the shirt and all the way to the shoulders.

One question: When you guys mentioned "inside our shirt" means on bare skin is it? Or inside wear another shirt? One accident happened was when Moka jumped back and caught my shorts, she ran upwards and INSIDE my shirt. My God!! That tingling experience of her sharp nails all over me makes me jump and shake like someone in trance. Super ticklish and sharp pointy nails pricking the skin all over. My sister just laughed like mad.

Me thinks me need nail O' matic soon.

Oh I see... only open at 2:30pm eh? Do they still have joeys there? By the way, do you study in Cyberjaya? Or working there?

Shakeera? On a music audition is it? Arent those like percusion or something? You should play it softly while she's at it, wonder what's the reaction like...

This post has been edited by Pennywise: Jun 15 2008, 02:09 AM

Oh I see, I dont pass by there after work hours, I only go there for lunch. I usually turn to Bomba / Dell building there and head home via Elite.

Oh glad to hear I'm on the right track. One question - when you guys said "inside our shirt", means bare skin is it? How can you guys tahan the sharp nails running all over your body? I'd freaked out!

Wah liao... I seriously wonder how you all tahan. Moka climb into my shirt and on my tummy, I'm already struggling for my life to get her out, she some more play catching with me. Until she's out, until I'm in the showers, I can still feel the frick when she ran over to my back.

You guys are great ler to do this. I will try again.

The nails are super sharp, that's why when run over the body, the skin like... got red red. My hands look like got cut even when they just walked passed (not bite / nip).

Yea they have the nail trimming services for RM10. Nail O' Matic is actually.. a sand paper is it? What is it? How it works? Will it cut too deeply if I never take it out from the Wodent Wheel?

My God, today I brought my gliders out to my sister's room to play. Both of their nails are so long that if you try to carry them and they're unwilling to let go of the shirt, the shirt will tear. So long, so sharp that a single layer of cotton t-shirt also can feel the nails very pointy that I had to wear two t-shirts!.

Anyway, I played with them, got tired and laid on the room floor. I notice one thing, gliders love "highest point", so if your knee is bent, they will climb up there. If you put your feet up against the wall, they will climb up there (and mine bite my toes!)

We had a fun time and I brought them out for night walk at 9:30pm when I walk my dog for their potty hour.

Here are some poison for your eyes and is it normal that gliders have two... antenna above their eyes? It's like feelers~


Luna was picking out my dead-skins but curi curi pee-d on my knee while Moka hides.


Moka looks like she has cock-eye but then she's cute! Dont know why but Moka is more tame than Luna. If following the checklist from Hun's blog, I think she fit all criteria except the fact that she cannot let us carry willingly, sure got some struggling.


Moka kissing Luna, or rather sniffing.


Moka love to climb on top of Luna.

This post has been edited by Pennywise: Jun 16 2008, 10:21 PM