sorry, i should pm. please forgive this humble newbie



Thanks again Hun, SIlver, Bonai, and krynzpeaches
I'll wait patiently then
i do understands english language
anyway, 1 last question, if im getting a pair of suggie (male& female) but the problem is, i can only get them 1 by1. And which gender u suggest i should get 1st? male or female?
thanx in advance.

And thanx again for those who advised me about having a suggie as a pet.
thank you guys! (Hun, SIlver, Bonai, and krynzpeaches)

Doesn't your cage have those wire mesh separator?



No worries, as long as you are willing to learn and understand the proper way, we will try and guide you best

Suggies male and female are equally great. Getting either one first and another later doesn't make a difference.

Each suggies is in fact different in personality and such. No two suggies are alike.

We have from the most laid back male suggie, to a hardy male, to a moody male... Same goes with female, we have laid back ones, explorer ones and also moody girls... It depends on your luck and how you shape them to be That's the beauty with suggies

One more thing, you can also get both male or both female This is the most advisable among all


KP

Who in the world told to give bread and jam to gliders? I remembered someone said bread and kaya can or not. Come on lah, gliders should not be eating cooked and processed food that is meant for humans, same with all types of pets. Natural foods, safe foods, all listed on the 1st page. If tak faham.... then baca lagi. If tak faham lagi, then baca baca baca or might as well don't have a glider if still ignorant with the facts.

Like KP said, we have seen, heard and gotten so many complaints and stories about their gliders dying. Some would cry when they tell me, some would lah and have this tak apa sound in his voice. We are all concern, me may sound like nagging and marah but we are only doing it to get the facts into you guys punya kepala. We cannot take animals for granted, we cannot just biar coz they are just haiwan.... benda hidup kita kena jaga baik baik lah. We are their guardians.

Bread bloats, soaks water really well and has yeast, which gliders may have allergic reactions.... so never feed bread.

About the cage thing. If they do not sleep in the pouch but in newspaper.... it's cause their breeder or seller or supplier never gives them anything to sleep in but newspaper. Gliders that have never experience high sleeping areas tend to not want to sleep high up.

About getting a pair. Start with a female first coz females need time to mature properly. They should only have their 1st breeding when they are about 10 to 12 months old. If you put a pair of male and female together when joeys, the male matures faster, so he would breed early when the female is sexually mature. Females can get sexually mature at 6 months old, and breeding too early can cause health problems, shorten lifespan..... this happens in the wild. Wild gliders can only live up to 5 years... sometimes a bit longer if they have never gotten into the tummy of a predator. In captivity, with the right diet, husbandry, care and no early breedings, it can go to 10 or 15 years.

yes the cage have a wire mesh separator.
but the wire can portable..can remove...
i think i need to put seramic bowl..
right....look live heavy...so that wire cant terangkat right

This post has been edited by onezkatana: Jun 19 2008, 12:42 PM

Thank you!
nice and neat advice. Beribu-ribu terima kasih for the information and advice crazymouse_yyh

You mean your suggie lift up the mesh and go sleep under it?


KP

That's weird.... none of my gliders or any of the gliders that have boarded with me have ever lifted the mesh. Maybe your cage is not suitable.

If you want happy long lived gliders, get single sex pairs. Or neuter the male.

thank u all for da advice...
=)
im not gona give bread 4 sure...
n other human food suply whch not suitable 4 s.G....

thank u.....spel'it..crazymouse_yyh...silverwineus...krynzpeaches..mamata

Yep, single sex pair or neuter the male is highly advisable



No prob!

Fruits, Slurp and insects are good enuff to keep your suggies happy and healthy


KP

kak kp.... berapa kali dah akak dgr pasal kematian sg ni??? smangat ni nak tau... nak gi tau member...

Hun,

My gliders were born in August last year and now is mid June, so they are approx. 10 months old..

Now only i realise after you mentioned,

"I TERLUPA nak seperate them la.." Anyway, how? It's susah to sepearate them since they have been so attached to each other..

But luckily, in these 10 months, no expectation of joeys occur..phew

This should be a lesson of precaution.

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Added on June 19, 2008, 1:21 pmAnother thing is, Hun, jaga two gliders already reached to my limit.. i can't imagine you got 9! That's super-incredible..

This post has been edited by silverwineus: Jun 19 2008, 01:21 PM

ehh...where are to get wire mesh???? and how much the market price now???

I tire out.... really tired with 9 gliders. Crazy crazy tired but worth it.

Oh, there is a method to stop pairs from breeding.... but I still am learning. Apparently breeders overseas separate when the female is on heat. How to know? You really must monitor very closely. If a female is on heat, the male will groom the female more and try to clean her privates.... then this means female is ready to breed so need to separate for a week I think.... I'm still researching on this.

On average, 1 every 2 weeks.

Not to mentioned under aged ones...



Ehh, I thot you said got the wire mesh separator?

It comes together with the cage right?


KP

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Added on June 19, 2008, 1:44 pm

Wahhh, how to monitor? They're active during the night... Mana tau tertido while watching them and miss the sign... Dushhh, joeys in 16 days

I don't think it's gonna be easy


KP


This post has been edited by krynzpeaches: Jun 19 2008, 01:44 PM

Bubba is now 30 days old. Yesterday Jamien and Neshie came over, and saw Bubba... they too were surprised that he was such a nice size. The ones at Ikano were smaller and sickly looking. Many callers I get about their joeys dying are because of getting from Ikano or some pet shop or a supplier friend. They say "feed apples and mealworms can already" or "give susu kucing can" or "get the gerber jar apple sauce and dogfood"..... these are where the joeys suffer and die from malnutrition and starvation..... so macam ni lah kes kes yang kita dengar. Sangat menyedihkan. Yang I sangat tak suka is bila orang yang menjualnya cakap bela glider sangat mudah macam hamster.

yes KP n hun
yes my suggie lift up the mesh and go sleep under it
this my cage

a common cage...
this my setup
i think u all very familiar with these cage

Yah loh... super hard. But thats how some people do it. I was reading it last night but I'm still not 100% sure how to know for sure hahahah. Kena baca lagi.

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Added on June 19, 2008, 1:49 pmWah, like that also can lift up? I think is from previous living conditions. Try putting the pouch at the lower part of the cage, and increase the height every 3 days till you reach the top of the cage you are comfortable with.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Jun 19 2008, 01:49 PM

crazymouse_yyh,
since u are well known as a suggie supplier here on LYN. i want to ask u, whether u familiar the supplier names Sam or not? he lives here in klang valley but then hes originally from penang. i called him last night, he mention ur name if im not mistaken

Reason why they say keeping gliders is easy like keeping hamsters is because they just want people to buy so that they'll get profit fast... They don't care if the gliders are too young, sickly or even dying...

Yang tertipu is the buyers who did not do any research before buying them.

Yang suffer are the those poor joeys...



I used to have that cage before I upgraded... Tak pernah pun my suggies lift the mesh separator... What they normally do is put their hand through it to grab those fallen fruits or mealies...

Weird.

So strong your gliders?

I still cannot imagine how they managed to lift it and go underneath

KP

hmm.... quiet big of number sg died....

no la just want to know if wire mesh sell at hardware... i allready done make a big cage... wide 2.4feet...... deep 3.9feet... quiet large right???

1st time my mom mad at me cuz make a large cage... but now she ok when she look at my cenget play....