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 Stock Market V12, Stock Market talk, some are investors, some are gamblers..

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post Apr 22 2008, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 02:33 PM)
Yes, you are right. The forum is getting very boring... ....Sapcres and nothing much.
It is no more my favorite counter .

going into hibernation.........
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I do think market will stay boring for months and going nowhere, up and down with range bound trading band.


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post Apr 22 2008, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 02:49 PM)
She is working in China ( steel related ).
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I knew the girl name called Huann, am I right? flex.gif
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post Apr 22 2008, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 02:54 PM)
Yes, i buy 15000 shares bcos of her statistics. Expect to earn 30sen per share by end of the year.
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Since you had made some research on it.

Curious to ask as I knew Huaan is making coke for steel processing fuel then how will rising coal price affect its cost?Coke need to made from coal, right?
Coal has been rising quite drastically recently, that's one of the reason TNB share price tumble as well.
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post Apr 22 2008, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:00 PM)
Huaan confident that they can pass on the increasing operations cost to customers and still remain robust from increasing coke prices which are rising well..
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ok, thks for the information, may be will keep on eye on it as well.


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post Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:03 PM)
At first , i am also cofused, thinking coke means coke cola.
It means to work well for Huann if steel price is firm, like crude oil palm. It is an Agent to reduce cost for steel production.
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Coke is not an agent to reduce cost of steel, but an essential raw material to produce steel from iron ore.It is about extracting carbon content and segregating iron and other oxidised components. Sorry, forget liao, need to flip back my metarlugical notes for futher details.

If Huaan is able to pass the rising cost coal to the customers, then shouldn't much problem to register good earning result.


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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 03:10 PM)
and i read that, HUAAN is the one-and-only China company that list in malaysia...
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In fact, it is the first and only one foreign listing in KLSE.

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post Apr 22 2008, 04:09 PM

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Next time, have to follow others 'virgin' share. icon_idea.gif

Virgin really got virgin luck one.
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post Apr 22 2008, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:10 PM)
indeed, it is proven. in fact, i used to be one, too tongue.gif
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I lose my 'virgin' long long time ago, so no more 'virgin' luck. Need to work hard. laugh.gif
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post Apr 22 2008, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(nofear0720 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:17 PM)
No doubts I have 'virgin' luck but I also did my analysis before enter to buy the share.

But of course i'm not as pro as you guys, everyone is learning so am I.  tongue.gif
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We all learn and sharing information together. Pros or no pros still the same. icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Apr 22 2008, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:16 PM)
i lost my virginity to mr maybulk in a beautiful summer, back in year 2004. that time me ngam ngam 20 years old *shy*
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LOL.
Mr Maybulk surely brought you a beautiful honeymoon then.

Maybulk is diam diam surging to 4.58 this morning. People chase after 30 cents dividend I suppose, going to be 'ex', tomorrow last day.
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post Apr 22 2008, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 04:26 PM)
wow this is hilarious!! SAPCRES gone up to 1.60 now!
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Time to profit take for those bought low one?
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post Apr 22 2008, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Apr 22 2008, 04:33 PM)
what is the next resistance for sapcres? ..
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Should be around level of 1.68 to 1.70 which previously formed a double top (for 5 years chart).

To my surprise, based on the chart (short term), it was in down trend (before break 1.50) which begin from 2.50 and at 1.50 is for it to break the down trend.

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QUOTE(jongkolkhoo @ Apr 22 2008, 04:44 PM)
wow, i letgo sapcres at 1.59
got at 1.51 & 1.48 .. today's menu kfc combo including tapau back

now someone mention jaks?
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Can upgrade to starbuck or coffee bean already mah.
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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 22 2008, 05:16 PM)
I sapu 100 lot sapcres at 1.56  rclxms.gif  after letting go 50 lot at 1.54  mad.gif . I immediatley grabbed another 100 when I see the 1.55 resistance broken. I did not set any TP right now, need to see the chart tonite. Hope can make some $$ for dinner at Victoria Station  drool.gif
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1.70 can be a big hurdle to cross. There was double top formed during Dec 2003 & around April 2007.

But after May 2007 once the resistance (1.70) being broken, it went straight up to as high as 2.60 before forming a downwards trend until today.

From my point of view (not necessary correct), it needs to cross 1.70 to stage a upwards trend, otherwise it is not deemed a totally break through. Just my taught (don't flame me on this, if I am wrong, so many Sapcres supporters here) icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 22 2008, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 22 2008, 05:27 PM)
Yeah, I see that too in the chart. Better take profit at abt 1.65-1.68. The consolidation period at 1.70 would be quite long. Might as well count the $$ now and wait for it to break the 1.70 ceiling. If Dow closes green, maybe will shoot up to 1.65 in opening tomorrow before profit taking comes in.
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One of the way to adopt some strategy is using profit locking mechanism. You set a profit lock at certain price let say 1.55 ot whatever you would like to have (for those already profit at this level). So as long as it doesn't fall below it, you hold, once it break, you sell. In between you see how it progress, so if it goes to higher let say 1.70, then bring up your profit lock level, (let say 1.60).

Then in this way, you won't be scare profit running away while still can enjoy the show. But it is not a foolproof strategy, it can go wrong. I tend to use this kind of strategy from time to time, otherwise, make a lot of paper profit but once share fell afterwards, paper profit evaporate, and earn nothing finally. This is more applicable to 'goreng' stock as movement of price can be volatile in between.

So, it is just for some illustration, don't mean it is a correct way to do.
Judge you own.

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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 22 2008, 05:38 PM)
PS: i think due to my holdings currently mostly stable or for long term....i hardly get xcited over price increase liao....unlike last time.....like now PBBANK 11.1.....i bought at 10.....also feel like nothing although profit more than my SAPCRES!

but....i'm a bit worried bout my Genting la..hehehehe
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It is actually true to have those kind of feeling, that's why there are more excitement in 'goreng' stuff and people are more lure to it.

But a lot of time, it is those 'boring' one gain for you more than 'goreng' one.
But excitement wise is the other way round. You feel more happy if you have made Rm500 in goreng stock for short period than a good fundamental stock that you hold for long term that had gain RM5k.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 22 2008, 05:45 PM)
ishh we all have starbucks, kfc, burger king only, even the most luxurious one also at victoria station, now you say you are getting ah yat abalone! ish ishh!
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Yalo, abalone term come back already.

A month ago, people only talk about having KFC, now become Ah Yat Abalone, what a contrast.
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 22 2008, 09:11 PM)
Hi all, it's already 4 month since I didn't active in this thread (my stocks drop a lot ..  sweat.gif ) .. by today, the stock company shares that I've bought a month ago make an announcement that I didn't understand .. so, hope that someone can summarise it whether it's a good news or bad for me individually ..  sweat.gif .. Thank you for your help ..  notworthy.gif
Today's news ..

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I bought 44 lot - Rm 0.42 each (on Disember 2007). Did I need to sell it or stay for a moment?
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Basically, it has to do with capital reduction aka your shareholding with 'shrink'

It cancels 84% of its Par value.
But it consolidate back with 500 of 0.16 Par value into 160 share of par value of RM0.50

So your 44 lots become 14.08 lots only for the DBhd. Should be right, will double check it.


Then the company will let you buy 1:2 right issued, mean it offered you 14.08/2 = 7.04 right issued (but it didn't say how much it will for the right issue, should be RM0.50, just my guess due to Par value, need to go through the entire proposal to confirm)

Then others blar blar is about acquisition of properties which company which company will issued more right issue and loan stock as the form of payment.

So for you, it affects you on the sharesholding and right issue.

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post Apr 22 2008, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 22 2008, 09:28 PM)
Wah .. tq Mr Cherroy .. so as a shareholder, to avoid any big loss .. I need to sell it A.S.A.P tomorrow right?


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Ya ya .. so shame to talk in here while I'm "rugi" a lot a past few month ..  doh.gif
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I made a mistake on the calculation of the reduction side previously, so please check it back my edited post.

Whether you need to sell, is up to your choice.
That's why it is always advisable not to buy and hold on a losing money company with no sight of turn around into profitability.



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QUOTE(Irzani @ Apr 22 2008, 09:38 PM)
Tq for the explanation .. but need to admit I'm a little bit stupid to understand it (I'm no good in economy  sweat.gif ) .. so, as conclusion, it's a bad news to me right?

Bought on Disember : Rm 0.42
By today price :  Rm 0.275
Future price : Rm 0.16

I need to sell it ASAP right? look like a very dangerous situation for me ..  rclxub.gif . Need your suggestion as veteran ..

Thank you Sir
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Future price is not RM0.16.

If the final share price of the stock before it carries out the proposal is RM0.25, it will become around RM0.78 on the first day listing. But your 44 lots become 14.08 lots only.

But with the news of massive capital reduction come out, tomorrow its share price will under some pressure.

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Still a question I keep wondering why Huaan want to list in Malaysia? considered that it is not a Malaysia based company nor having interest or business in Malaysia. Got some relationship with Antah? N.S. royal family owned.
Also, consider that it can list in China or HK which easily can chalk up higher price at IPO there. hmm.gif

No doubt based on its financial result, it looks good.

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