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hamster9
post Apr 19 2008, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(MyGaming-Aaron @ Apr 18 2008, 03:45 PM)
lolz the trend nowadays usually the ppl go there for the lan connection so that a group of friends can hang out and play together. Not really due to the internet connection =.= but that certainly is a plus for the business
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games need to have gaming license and with that, catergorized under entertainment license which cost 20k a year wink.gif

QUOTE(b00n @ Apr 18 2008, 04:11 PM)
What I heard, MPAJ and MPPJ is currently freezing license.
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not only MPAJ and MPPJ but whole Selangor under the Menteri Besar

QUOTE(maxovista @ Apr 18 2008, 11:00 PM)
Yeah...the capital is high! But once you manage to collect RM300 and above....each day! Then it is alright!

Well, the magic Rm300 will end you up with Around RM9000 a month of gross income!
But if your premise rental, your staff salary, electricity, maintenance,etc etc Around 6k...
Then you will be alrights

If you charge your customer RM2 an hour...to get Rm300 a day, you need to get 150Hour of computer usage!

This is a simplistic calculation....you can actually add other services to increase your overall income!

[you can take my word, i been in this business before]

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oN The other hand, a guy selling kuey teow can sell 100 plates each day [a true example]
Each plate cost about Rm5..

His average gross income is around RM500 a day..(Rm15000 monthly)

His monthly Gross is much better compared to the Cyber cafe example above...with a very minimal initial capital!
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RM300 a day is pretty low if one really want to earn.

Premise rental is how much? Those location as SS15 are like more than RM4k per month. How much you plan to pay for the workers salary? At least a full time must be RM1k , so what if there's 2 workers or more? Mind you, electricity is high. A small cafe of mine already have RM600 of electrical bill with only less than 20 PC inclusive of aircon. To max earnings, must have lots of PC. Lots of PC means more power consumption.

Also such earning projected could either be high number of PC or there is constantly people playing and in waiting line to use the PC.  whistling.gif
QUOTE(MyGaming-Aaron @ Apr 19 2008, 01:23 AM)
well normally even for a small CC they actually earn around RM1k a daywith around 50 -100 pc's.
making kuay teow if it taste bad then we can close shop very early. It is base on biz with skill but for opening CC is biz base on ppl with high capital. That's what I think anyway dont hit me if I'm wrong. U can always correct me  whistling.gif
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wow..50-100 pcs considered small, I wonder what's mine..micron cc? laugh.gif

QUOTE(KooHei @ Apr 19 2008, 12:50 PM)
my opinion about cyber cafe.. good profits I must say. low risk, easy to manage... I got 2 friends involved in this business and making atleast 7-8k per month.
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making 7-8k means for the shop and not pocketing the amount or getting such salary?

it's already considered high risk already. Mayb back then in 1995 onwards, where internet cafe charges RM7 per hour, that was the best time people could earn. Now RM2 and some until RM1.5 per hour. How to earn with high electricity consumption?

Also not to mention raids due to online gaming and any other raids that the police and the town council can think of. Either prepare coffee money or let them pack ur pc wink.gif
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post Apr 19 2008, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(KooHei @ Apr 19 2008, 12:50 PM)
my opinion about cyber cafe.. good profits I must say. low risk, easy to manage... I got 2 friends involved in this business and making atleast 7-8k per month.
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Low risk? This has gotta be a joke!
profit is only good if your CC is well established.

and guys, please dont calculate by assuming your CC will be full house 24/7 smile.gif
CC is one of the most common failed business..

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post Apr 19 2008, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(hamster9 @ Apr 19 2008, 02:59 PM)
Also not to mention raids due to online gaming and any other raids that the police and the town council can think of. Either prepare coffee money or let them pack ur pc  wink.gif
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even with sufficient license also will get raid? just need clarification

QUOTE(justin_nys @ Apr 19 2008, 03:39 PM)
and guys, please dont calculate by assuming your CC will be full house 24/7 smile.gif
CC is one of the most common failed business..
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i have my assumptions and it's a low risk business for me ... starting out big when you are only new should spell trouble sweat.gif
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post Apr 19 2008, 03:59 PM

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CC is getting harder and harder to operate unless if you do large scale. Cause the normal rate for a cc now is RM2 or RM1.5 which is already low and wht if the elec rate increase?
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Apr 19 2008, 03:45 PM)
even with sufficient license also will get raid? just need clarification
i have my assumptions and it's a low risk business for me ... starting out big when you are only new should spell trouble  sweat.gif
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go find around the thread. as long as residents complain, they can raid you for whatever reason. be it budak ponteng sekolah, or gambling den.
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post Apr 19 2008, 06:04 PM

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Location dependent, high capital, low to medium returns, medium term business. You need to pump capital every 3-4 years if you plan to go long term. Your life will turn upside down if dwell too deep (morning sleep, active at midnight which is kinda bad for health), social connection mostly consist of students, young kids and NBTD ppl. Future is bleak if thats your only business.
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QUOTE(justin_nys @ Apr 19 2008, 03:39 PM)
Low risk? This has gotta be a joke!
profit is only good if your CC is well established.

and guys, please dont calculate by assuming your CC will be full house 24/7 smile.gif
CC is one of the most common failed business..
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