lol true... Life goes on i notice a person that talks with experience and without is a huge difference

You sound as if you're unsatisfied. Why care la so much, just let them show off la, results only maaaaaaaa

Early twenties, thirties and forties.

Some even went and do full time freelance right after SPM. Some ventured into internet business full time after SPM also, and earns more than what most grads earn.

Also, traders are those that sell hardwares, mechanics, etc etc. Skill based work. Yes, and they do earn ALOT.
And you left out farm owners (kelapa sawit, rubber trees) who were shit rich long time ago, and their generations are rich also.


So don't assume only grads are capable of earning money legally. Many of them are involved in white-collar commercial crimes too.


Besides, being book smart doesn't teach you how to sell. If you can't sell, you are doomed in your career because:
1) you can't sell your ideas & concepts to your boss, so end up as an apple polishing Yes-Man
2) Got played out in office politics and made to appear like an incompetent fool.

Book smart and street smart. A lethal combination. Not relying on books only...and neither does paper cert guarantee anything. One just need to pickup relevant books and start reading on their own.

there's a possibility

Sufiah is the BEST example.

sami more better example

street smart and go into politics, can get you into much much more richer

This post has been edited by MakaiKnight: Apr 18 2008, 06:32 PM

Good student did get you good income .
I am giving you a true real life story now.

One of my nephew finished UM as no.1 best student in accountancy.He started work with salary around RM 2k+ .
1 year later, his salary increase to RM 4k+.
Another year,changed to > RM 10k when China's beijing firm employed him.
Another 2 years,he want to come back to M'sia, but his boss requested him to stay.
Guess what his basic salary now ?

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Added on April 18, 2008, 6:43 pmNot all businessman is successful businessman.Some turned into bankruptcy .

This post has been edited by Winfeel: Apr 18 2008, 06:44 PM

50k? Anyway in the end is still need combo of both books and street smart la..i mean generally.

Oh yah..almost there and it is per monthly basis.

Bill Gates didn't even graduate.

Ultimately it's not only about having good academic results. It's also about work ethics, perceptiveness, how to handle people et cetera that they don't teach you in school.

Some people borned to be talented that way .Sometimes, talent person has poor familiy background.Hence, some with low education did not mean they are not smart in doing work.Some came out early to acquire street smart experience.

Attitude is the most important thing when you start work. If you can't work as a group, then you're not going to get anywhere. If you lose your temper when you're told to do something you don't particularly like, then you're not going to get anywhere. If you don't like someone you're working with, don't show it. You ain't going to get anywhere as you don't get on well with your colleague. You need to be good at crawling in front of your boss no matter how shit he/she is. When you get promoted to senior position one day, you will be the shit instead.

knowledge is power.

Experience comes first

A certificate is more like a "highway" a shortcut to good and steady income. However, you yourself needs to be streetsmart.

without having the right know-hows, how do you get the experince? would people even hire you? and behind every great people, there are good sifus.
look at khairy..=.=

This post has been edited by atrocitines: Apr 18 2008, 07:19 PM

To a boss, the combination of these always get attention.You have theory,u need practical back-up also.
Dun tell me that the company hire you is to let you sit in the office using mouth talking.Well, result won't come out from your mouth.It needs sacrificing and involve many efforts and skill .

i known very well about /agriculture/ farmers ... whether fed chicken ...cow..pig ..sheep ...fish ... palm ...etc ...not to mention those who doing chain-business ...

ya ...most of them din even know a single malay or english word ...but 80% archive 1million before 40 yr old ...

but most of them started their business since their forefather ...since they didn't have very well education ...parts of them got cheated / addicted in gamble ...etc

majority of them really easily can get cheat ...
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u said spm leaver can strainght become a trader ... if his family wasn't a stable family ...where he got such money to buy in products for selling?

lend money from other can cause more problems ...

even some could do it ...but how much is it ?1/100 ?

i trying to say ...cert do secure one's income but without it ,the chance is minimal

lol... jesus didnt graduate, mohd didnt graduate, uncle lim didnt graduate, buddha didnt graduate... but are you them? no...

to those that dont want to achieve anything in life it is up to them... there's no point trying to educate them... getting good grades is not all about making $$$ but knowledge and education...

a lot of people in msia dont deserve their wealth... that doesnt mean this situation is happening around the world... so if you want to be just 'street smart' then dont study and flunk all your papers and use whatever common sense you have... but dont belittle those that want to achieve more in life...

khairil is dumb + useless