No one said every businessman is successful. Depends what person you are? are you a risk taker? and anyhow. in business there is a risk.. think like singaporean meh? all work for ppl. Because they kiasu.. so they rather work for ppl and every mth get a stable pay

SPM cannot prove anything. But Stpm and Pre-university can prove u r smart if can get good result.

Your nephew is still an employee. Guess how much he would have earned if he was the boss of THAT company?


Majority? Do you have the demographics data to back it up?

White collar workers are also susceptible to being cheated (ING baring, remember?), gambles and what not.
Such ill fated issues aren't limited to any social groups. Everyone is susceptible, educated or otherwise.

Stability of the family isn't an exclusive factor.
On the contrary, people without stability of income in (or stable family), would not be able to afford to further their studies.

And now with information easily and freely available, everyone has greater chance to start their business ventures with greater knowledge in hand without even going to college! (and saves so much more money too!)
Remember how expensive our education is. Think about the amount of money used

You forgot YTL.

Regardless of being educated or not, one ought to have the drive to succeed, and the initiative to implement it.
Without these, one would never be successful.

The difference in being street smart is knowing HOW to implement their knowledge.
Book smart people is only competent in theories.

people getting good grades is for getting scholarships only....dats all...after that your good grades is nothing liao de..... Getting good grades is for scholarships only and scholarships alone. That, is the main definition of good grades. The showing of part is a bonus for a short period only.

My neighbour....

28 years old chap, married, 1 child.

Bought a RM400K house, own a EVO7 and a 4 door Civic.


Opposite neighbour....

30 - 35 years old, married, 1 child

Bought a RM400K house, own a 5 Series and a Camry.


They are not English speaking people, do you guys know what are their daily work? You guys will be shock to hear this.

Not everyone wants to be an academic.

Everyone has their reasons for doing things, and academia isn't the achievement in life, like everything else it's just a ticket. What ever it is an achievement should be practical. Wanna do well? Fine, don't need to defend it like you're defending the last of the species.

Alot here make a valid point. My old man graduated with a 3rd from UCL , and he hires first class graduates to do his dirty work, yeah, he pays them well, but at the end of the day, who's making the real money?

Same with my neighbour who runs a firm, they pay their engineers well, but his english and his writing skills leave so much to be desired it numbs my brain. At the end of the day, he's living in that 3 million dorrar house which he paid for in cash.

If you talent is in academics, then fine, but no one owes it to you to recognize your skill. Who cares about my CGPA of 3? Nobody does, especially when it comes to academics, coursework has to be the most banal of achievements if it ever was one in the first place, sitting down and doing research for mankind now that's something, making money for yourself, now that's something and so on.

In retrospect, you have acheived nothing for being able to memorize a few reams worth of material. Academia doesn't entitle one the right to sit in an ivory tower, contribution does.

f*** i ran out of fags.

1) lou pin lo
2) sell meat in market lo.. liqiudty ma.. all cash, dont use credit

start a new acc to post meh... at least put a better nick

gone are the days where you monopoly an industry and get rich... maybe you still could if you have political backing but that's not sustainable...

YTL? who is managing YTL now? francis yeoh... u think YTL will let his son manage his company with no education... look at the top 10 riches in msia.. even if he/she dont have any qualification... look at what they want their kids to be?

why not be both street smart and book smart? no knowledge... what's there to apply?
no.. good grades show you are among the top... scholarship is what you deserve... yea.. msians definition of good grades

if you manage to do that then you have all the bragging rights.. if not... dont brag.. you dont know how hard they work

academic grades dont mean much... i agree... but if everyone thinks like that... how is society going to advance? there's the capitalist class and the middle class.. it is a piramid... the capitalist will be usually around top 5% of the population, middle 30-40 and the rest are the lower class... how many from the lower class will be able to make it to the top?

dont make us guess..spill your answer out.

Hawker center,I guess lo

If you don't have capital and experienced to start a business, where do you want to go ?

well... there's this old man that operates the 'medan' near monash and sunway... his wife operates the drink stall... and non of his kids are not-educated... 2 elder sons are doctors... 1 daughter is on the way to be a doctor as well... the youngest son was lazy and reluctant to study... the old uncle drove the son away...

now you can talk balls and brag about how not educated you are... but when it comes to you kids, do you want them to end up in the same path? i dont think so...

pitiful peasant life, pitiful wage earner

Their mindset is more suitable for 1st generation .The 2nd ,3rd generations and so on will not ageed to what the 1st generation came down to them.Not everyone with the same interest.

I bet to differ.

so what is the family working as ?

Sell char kwai tiau!


Definitely. I had emphasised on two skills, book and street smart.

Thats a lame excuse.

If your nephew can help his boss make money using his expertise, why not make all the money for himself?
Problem is, he will shit bricks if you ask him to take risks. He is in his comfort zone to earn as an employee.

I wouldn't use him as an example. Far from it.

you are joking.
better result= better chances= better life
prove me wrong. I give u an 'A'

Although i study stuff EE as for my degree i do believe in extending my studies to include philosophy, both classical and abit of modern.

Academia isn't the drive you see, it's the accumulation of either wealth or power, like i said before it's just a ticket. Capitalism isn't a social class, it's a form of society. There will always be more realms to excell in rather than just studies.

Men just fill up the prerequisites to gaining wealth and power, society's advance has nothing to do with it, after all, it is already defined as capitalist, meaning that the individual's profit is held at the highest regard. It's not an advancing society but a society which is tricked into advancing by the use of pure greed, not egalatarianism.

Let's be practical here, no point in self advancement unless it brings self benefit. Now that's capitalism.