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 Xigmatek HDT-S1284 Achilles Review, New Product, More Heatpipe, Come Join~!!

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post Apr 18 2008, 12:50 AM

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wawawa..~~new cooler again..
post the result ASAP guys
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post Apr 18 2008, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(fesick @ Apr 18 2008, 12:50 AM)
wawawa..~~new cooler again..
post the result ASAP guys
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will do in ½hr time.... touching up the last part


Added on April 18, 2008, 1:23 amokay it should consider done... if u all found any mistake in grammar/ spelling which would like to correct me... kindly pm me the mistake and correction for it... DO NOT post it there... thx

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post Apr 18 2008, 02:18 AM

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vincent u are really such a great reviewer... rclxms.gif notworthy.gif

anyways thanks for all the effort put into this review and indeed its a great HSF but dont quite understand how it could lose to RS on idle...

imo its worth the money as it has improve temp on load and this is only the 1st review and other ppl might have different result and i think using ss kit would have better result... too bad xigmatek wanna make ppl spend more money to buy new ss kit laugh.gif .... no offense vincent.. its just my opinion... smile.gif

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QUOTE(ham_revilo @ Apr 18 2008, 02:18 AM)
vincent u are really such a great reviewer...  rclxms.gif  notworthy.gif

anyways thanks for all the effort put into this review and indeed its a great HSF but dont quite understand how it could lose to RS on idle...

imo its worth the money as it has improve temp on load and this is only the 1st review and other ppl might have different result and i think using ss kit would have better result... too bad xigmatek wanna make ppl spend more money to buy new ss kit laugh.gif .... no offense vincent.. its just my opinion... smile.gif
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lol no worries.... currently even ckhoong himself dont have compatible achilles sskit.... thats why forced to use PushPin... the only reason i can think of that it loses on idle bcoz the heat generated from the 2x core in the middle of the processor didnt spread the heat to the side of the IHS, therefore only 2x heatpipe dissipating the heat on idle...... whereas when load... the whole processor IHS will heat up and thats when the side 2 heatpipe which is contacted only half of it start to functioning and dissipate heat.... there is a waste of ½heatpipe from each side... so to my prediction, its much more benefitial to AMD processor where their processor have larger area of contact and will fully utilizing 4 heatpipe (direct contact)....

just my personal opinion thou.... no solid prove...

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post Apr 18 2008, 06:39 AM


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the corner heat pipe only contacted half of its ori size.
S1283 has fully contacted while 1284 wasted "1" heat pipe actually.
but since it's HDT,i dont think it's a problem with it.

the s1283 ss kit is not compatible with 1284 kah?
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ace taking 1 to try ??
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Apr 18 2008, 06:39 AM)
the corner heat pipe only contacted half of its ori size.
S1283 has fully contacted while 1284 wasted "1" heat pipe actually.
but since it's HDT,i dont think it's a problem with it.

the s1283 ss kit is not compatible with 1284 kah?
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nope according to vincent cuz the skru size are different thus cant be used interchangeably
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post Apr 18 2008, 09:36 AM

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from what i see..
both sskit are different..not only the screw

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new form look like cannot fit wif current mobo.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Apr 18 2008, 06:39 AM)
the corner heat pipe only contacted half of its ori size.
S1283 has fully contacted while 1284 wasted "1" heat pipe actually.
but since it's HDT,i dont think it's a problem with it.

the s1283 ss kit is not compatible with 1284 kah?
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yape not compatible... the screw hole for Achilles is much smaller, thus the big screw from s1283 cannot be use.... unless u can find screw which have small diameter while having big head... but the SSkit will be loose also if u do so unless u tighten it very tight.... refer to the picture in "trouble with sskit section"


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QUOTE(magna_voxx @ Apr 18 2008, 10:40 AM)
new form look like cannot fit wif current mobo.. doh.gif
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why not? its only slightly bigger only for the fins... what mobo u using?

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post Apr 18 2008, 01:34 PM

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Too bad. It is not 100% make by cooper.
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QUOTE(vincentlaw @ Apr 18 2008, 01:27 PM)
why not? its only slightly bigger only for the fins... what mobo u using?
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yeah.use abit fatal1ty F-190HD.dis one a bit lebar i think.current xigma just fit wif d mobo.but i need to twist/rotate d position.i think dat why d temp a bit higher than others.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Apr 18 2008, 01:34 PM)
Too bad.  It is not 100% make by cooper.
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its copper...

aluminum dissipate heat faster than copper..copper absorb heat more than aluminum..

so, you can see the manipulation of their physical spec, the heat pipe/base and the fins..got it?
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Wahhh....the new brother is here alredy arrr... drool.gif drool.gif but its slightly higher than the red scorpion isn't it...50mm on red and
60mm on achilles wonder if can fit in my Cm590... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 18 2008, 03:52 PM)
Wahhh....the new brother is here alredy arrr... drool.gif  drool.gif  but its slightly higher than the red scorpion isn't it...50mm on red and
60mm on achilles wonder if can fit in my Cm590... hmm.gif
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the height = side-side, not the bottom-top ....... tall = depth..... so its slightly more GEMUK... not TINGGI... LOL u can know by its measurement also....50/60mm so short only? if its for depth

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Nice review vincent! thumbup.gif

A few thoughts......

Can't you use a metal washer with the previous S&S kit?

One of the reason previous model of Xigmatek was popular was because of it's price..... with the new Achilles at RM229 (+RM25 for the S&S kit), I wonder whether it is better to go for TRUE..... (with a little bit more top-up, although no fan....)

Edit : Oh ya, also need to make sure the ambient temperature is the same.....

I guess a review comparing these two coolers would answer that question....

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onlt IFX14 can offer the 4x8mm heat pipe ..........TRUE does not have that wor.......
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Apr 18 2008, 06:49 PM)
onlt IFX14 can offer the 4x8mm heat pipe ..........TRUE does not have that wor.......
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Errr... TRUE has 6 U-shaped heatpipes ma..... and it comes with the S&S kit in the package... wink.gif

Based on reviews up to now, the king of coolers is the IFX-14 followed by the TRUE.....
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thank you so much vincent for the great job...

i would like add some ideas for the S&S kit...

yes, the S1283 S&S kit cannot installed into Achilles, however there is a hidden way to make it works...

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1st step, remove the spring&screw clip

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remove them all, we need 4 sets of spring, screw, and clip

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now goes to the Achilles push pin... take them off (most probably the push pin will damage and the warranty voided)

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install the spring and screw onto Achilles s775 bracket and lock the clip

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S&S for Achilles is ready sir!

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moded S&S kit for Achilles and original s1283's s&s kit

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while you might think "Hey! it looks like TR LGA 775 BOLT-THRU-KIT" LOL laugh.gif

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now even intel stock cooler can have S&S kit too shocking.gif thumbup.gif whistling.gif

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post Apr 19 2008, 12:10 AM

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good idea to mod the ss kit.... notworthy.gif

anyways the 6th picture is both 1283's ss kit and 1284's ss kit or is the 1284 kit is modified??

sorry for that question... im a lil rclxub.gif

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